exciting mwny rumor

[gralem]

This is what I've heard from very reliable sources:

No dual 1.5GHz G4's (motorola can't supply anything)

No 17" LCD iMac (15" iCub^H^H^HMacs gather dust...let's release a more expensive 17" model! Uh-uh)

Sorry, but that's the latest.

---gralem

[gralem]

there will be an announcement about the date for 10.2 >> 17 Aug! Some good will come of MWNY!

---g

[Stike]

Oh well, if we all expect this keynote ONLY to include Software demos, we won´t be disappointed, will we?

But what would an Expo be without ANY new Hardware?? :confused:

[teabgs]

Originally posted by Stike
Oh well, if we all expect this keynote ONLY to include Software demos, we won´t be disappointed, will we?

But what would an Expo be without ANY new Hardware?? :confused:

There WILL be new hardware. Just not at dual 1.5Ghz as the top o' the line....and that's according to this guys source, which we dont actually know who it is....take it with a grain of salt.

There will be a new PowerMac released and most likely an updated iMac. The release date of 10.2 is highly likely as the latest build is very speedy and has far fewer bugs then previous ones (I've seen it run on my friend's pismo).

So, anyway, new hardware is arounmd the corner and new exciting software to run on it will be right behind, don't worry, there should be lots of goodies for us in two weeks.


Keep your pants on. ;)

[sparkleytone]

my prediction...

1GHz G4 2MB L3 Cache - PC133RAM = $1599

Dual 1133MHz 2MB Each Processor - DDR333 Firewire2 Bluetooth = $2299

Dual 1266MHz 4MB Each L3 FSB=200MHz - DDR333 Firewire2 Bluetooth = $2999

[drastik]

Originally posted by teabgs


There will be a new PowerMac released and most likely an updated iMac. The release date of 10.2 is highly likely as the latest build is very speedy and has far fewer bugs then previous ones (I've seen it run on my friend's pismo).

Keep your pants on. ;)

Do I have too?:D

Just wondering, how fast did Jagwire run on the Pismo? I've got a Pismo 400 and I'd like to think I'm getting a little bank for my buck. DO you think Jaguar will save my aging baby, or should I put in the Nutech upgrade?

[Stike]

Originally posted by teabgs


... The release date of 10.2 is highly likely as the latest build is very speedy and has far fewer bugs then previous ones (I've seen it run on my friend's pismo).

Keep your pants on. ;)

:rolleyes: Hmmm, in another thread around here someone wrote that 10.2 is far from perfect in the current Build - some programs/features would have been cut out again and so on.

So, is it likely now or what? :( :D

And, yes, I´ll keep my pants tight till the livestream! ;)
BTW is there any confirmation on live QT Broadcasting?

AND BTW: Keep your eyes on apple.com for even more announcements in the last 7 days :D :D WAY BEYOND :p :eek:
..and yes, i like smilies...

[sparkleytone]

the reports will never be completely accurate as to how far the OS has to come along, because the code is overloaded with debugging symbols in order to help pinpoint problems. once there is a compiled kernel that has these turned off, and all features turned on will we see the true progress of jaguar. of course that wont happen until its released ;)

[Megaquad]

what if new powermacs will be 1ghz's with ddr ram?if so,they should delay or cancel mwny cause poor steve wont get out of there alive..
and he is not the person to blame..

[firewire2001]

Originally posted by gralem
This is what I've heard from very reliable sources:

No dual 1.5GHz G4's (motorola can't supply anything)

No 17" LCD iMac (15" iCub^H^H^HMacs gather dust...let's release a more expensive 17" model! Uh-uh)

Sorry, but that's the latest.

---gralem

are these just predictions? or what are they??

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by firewire2001


are these just predictions? or what are they??

They're from "reliable sources".....

[gralem]

Originally posted by asurace


They're from "reliable sources".....

asurance, thank's...at least SOMEBODY here understands the difference between rumor and actual apple news! They are the same thing! :)

---gralem

[teabgs]

Originally posted by Stike


:rolleyes: Hmmm, in another thread around here someone wrote that 10.2 is far from perfect in the current Build - some programs/features would have been cut out again and so on.

So, is it likely now or what? :( :D

And, yes, I´ll keep my pants tight till the livestream! ;)
BTW is there any confirmation on live QT Broadcasting?

AND BTW: Keep your eyes on apple.com for even more announcements in the last 7 days :D :D WAY BEYOND :p :eek:
..and yes, i like smilies...

The build I saw was a month ago....it was snappy. Everything opened within 2 bounces. This is on the 400mhz pismo. there were lots of small problems and iChat sucked a big one....but it was significatnly faster then 10.1.4....A LOT faster.

The new build I havent seen....we're in different states, but he told me its faster then what I saw and that a lot of the bugs were fixed...not all, but a lot...the mojor ones

[job]

Originally posted by sparkleytone
my prediction...

1GHz G4 2MB L3 Cache - PC133RAM = $1599

Dual 1133MHz 2MB Each Processor - DDR333 Firewire2 Bluetooth = $2299

Dual 1266MHz 4MB Each L3 FSB=200MHz - DDR333 Firewire2 Bluetooth = $2999

Sounds about right, although I am praying that the baseline also include DDR RAM. Please....?

hitman

[billiam0878]

Can you give us anything else to go on gralem?

(a cry from a desperate mac user :))

Bill

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by sparkleytone
my prediction...

1GHz G4 2MB L3 Cache - PC133RAM = $1599

Dual 1133MHz 2MB Each Processor - DDR333 Firewire2 Bluetooth = $2299

Dual 1266MHz 4MB Each L3 FSB=200MHz - DDR333 Firewire2 Bluetooth = $2999

When was the last time we saw two dual processor systems from Apple (and I am not talking about the 'fastest' and then 'ultimate' from the online store)??? Answer: never.

I'd say that you can forget about bluetooth integrated into any Mac systems. You are more likely to have PCMCIA and PCI cards with it then you are to have it integrated.

High end DDR, hopefully, at least 266MHz (PC2100).

FireWire 2? As long as they still have FireWire 1 ports, or ship the computers with adapter cables as well.

BTW, I don't see the FSB at 200MHz (that is for systems running PC1600/DDR200 memory). More likely would be either 333MHz or 167MHz.

Since Apple [typically] uses the same motherboard in all the towers, I can't see them using two different memory types. Either ALL PC133 or ALL PC2100/2700.

[PrdstMnky19]

933MHZ - $1599
1.13GHz - $2299
1.33GHz - $2999

i would like to see the PowerMac G4 SE

Dual 1.5GHz - $3999

everyones hopes are up - this MW will blow, unless some iapps get some impressive features and steve offers jag at a discounted rate if you bought a mac in the last year.

[sparkleytone]

i also say its time for another product in the iPod vein. i.e. not a macintosh, some type of digital lifestyle device.

[Dunepilot]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Since Apple [typically] uses the same motherboard in all the towers, I can't see them using two different memory types. Either ALL PC133 or ALL PC2100/2700.

I agree. Apple wouldn't split the motherboard architecture within one PowerMac G4 series. This would not be cost-effective for bulk manufacture unless what's being suggested is that the low-end machine retains today's motherboard.

That would force me to buy a mid-range tower when all I want this July is the entry-level powermac.
:(

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Dunepilot
I agree. Apple wouldn't split the motherboard architecture within one PowerMac G4 series. This would not be cost-effective for bulk manufacture unless what's being suggested is that the low-end machine retains today's motherboard.


That would also mean, no FireWire 2 on the new low end systems... I can't see Apple doing that, since they have never kept an old motherboard design when they changed the tower board. When they went from the Yikes to the Sawtooth, they made all the new G4's with the Sawtooth and retired the Yikes board. Besides, doing the low end with one board and the other systems with the new board would piss off too many people. Those that cannot afford the mid or high end systems would be forced to either get the old technology, or to not get anything at all. Or worse still, they would be pushed to a peecee *shudder*. Not everyone wants an iMac or eMac... I know many people that like large displays, have ones with plenty of life in them, and just want another tower. Either that, or they have displays with dual inputs, so that two systems can be attached at one time (like with my ViewSonic VG175 LCD :D).

[job]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Since Apple [typically] uses the same motherboard in all the towers, I can't see them using two different memory types. Either ALL PC133 or ALL PC2100/2700.

I sure hope the baseline tower has DDR-RAM.

I believe Apple has split the tower motherboard architecture in the past (please correct me if I am wrong.) If you recall, in the first line of G4 towers (350, 400, 450) the baseline tower was based off the old G3 motherboard. Or am I completely insane? :D

[King Cobra]

>If you recall, in the first line of G4 towers (350, 400, 450) the baseline tower was based off the old G3 motherboard. Or am I completely insane? :D
I think you are correct. But, you've got to admit, Apple made the first affordable gigaflop computer before the new millennium! :D

Here are my honest predictions:
WARNING: This data is not official data, but rather a prediction. Do not assume that the data below are actual facts.
(1) All powermacs will have DDR-RAM running PC2100.
(2) Specs for PowerMac G4 DDR-RAM:
(2a) PowerMac G4 low range: 1000MHz, 60GB, 256MB RAM, CD-RW. $1794.
(2b) PowerMac G4 mid range: 1200MHz, 80GB, 256MB RAM, Superdrive. $2494.
(2c) PowerMac G4 top of the line: Dual 1400MHz, 100GB, 512MB RAM, Superdrive. $3494.
(3) Specs for iMac updates with 15 inch LCD:
(3a) iMac G4 low range: 800MHz G4, 40GB, 256MB RAM, CD-RW. $1394.
(3b) iMac G4 mid range: 900MHz G4, 60GB, 256MB RAM, DVD/CD-RW (Postal). $1594.
(3c) iMac G4 top of the line: 1000MHz G4, 80GB, 512MB, Superdrive. $1894.

[Grokgod]

Lets say that the new specs will be as King Cobra says.

What would be the sweet spot of these units?

I once spoke to a tech that was very good at math and I will try to translate what he told me as my artists mind understood> >:P

It has to do with multipliers and the manner in which the mulitplier on the CPU matches up with the multiplier on the bus, when these two numbers are in a ratio that is equal or can be divided by a similar number or some freaky evil math thing like that, the computer runs faster or better.

Whew that taxed my poor mind~

Can anyone decipher what I wish I could refer to?

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by hitman
I believe Apple has split the tower motherboard architecture in the past (please correct me if I am wrong.) If you recall, in the first line of G4 towers (350, 400, 450) the baseline tower was based off the old G3 motherboard. Or am I completely insane? :D

We all know that you are completely insane, but is that really a bad thing??? I never claimed to be sane... ;) :D :cool:

The first set of G4 systems (all speeds released) were with a hybrid motherboard (a cross-gap measure until they could get the first true G4 motherboard out) code named "Yikes". The second set of G4 systems to come out used the first true G4 motherboard, code named "Sawtooth". All the systems used the motherboard, there were not Yikes and Sawtooth in production at the same time.

Yikes used a PCI video card slot, and in speeds of 350 and 400MHz. Sawtooth used the first AGP video card slot and came in 350, 400, 450 and 500MHz models. Eventually the Sawtooth also had dual processor versions, before they went to the next motherboard revision (Gigabit ethernet) code named "Mystic" with 400MHz (single processor), 450MHz and 500MHz (dual processors). Those were the last with the 100MHz system bus, which also used PC100 memory. After that, they went to the 133MHz bus, and used PC133 memory (PC100 is not recognized in them).

Mactracker is a good source of information about different Apple systems. That is, if you cannot get access to the info from Apple itself.

[job]

Thanks for clarifying Alpha. :)

[job]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


We all know that you are completely insane, but is that really a bad thing???

Now how could you know that? I have only started posting in the last few weeks. :D :p

[King Cobra]

>Mactracker is a good source of information about different Apple systems. That is, if you cannot get access to the info from Apple itself.
What is Mactracker you ask? It's a free software program (free for Macs, not windoze!) that gives a quick overview of a large range of Apple computers from the 128k to the modern Macs. Check out download.com.com, search for Mactracker, download the OS X version (for OS X) and away you go.

If you want more in depth info, try www.apple-history.com for extra detail.

If you want more rumors, visit the boards more often! :D

[AlphaTech]

Yikes G4: Introduced: August 1999, Discontinued: December 1999.

Sawtooth G4: Introduced: September 1999, Discontinued: July 2000. Apple has no discontinue date listed for the Sawtooth, but we all know how they can be slow to update those dates. It probably just slipped through the cracks, since the Gigabit ethernet model does have a date listed (1/18/01).

[ilikeiBook]

Originally posted by hitman

I believe Apple has split the tower motherboard architecture in the past (please correct me if I am wrong.) If you recall, in the first line of G4 towers (350, 400, 450) the baseline tower was based off the old G3 motherboard. Or am I completely insane? :D

Yes you are completely insane, and that's bad.

[job]

Originally posted by ilikeiBook


Yes you are completely insane, and that's bad.

I thought something was wrong.....:D

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by ilikeiBook


Yes you are completely insane, and that's bad.

Leave it to the canadians to think that insanity is a bad thing... :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :D

[job]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Leave it to the canadians to think that insanity is a bad thing... :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :D

They just have not felt "special" yet. :D :D

[kevinibook]

Originally posted by King Cobra
>
(1) All powermacs will have DDR-RAM running PC2100.
(2) Specs for PowerMac G4 DDR-RAM:
(2a) PowerMac G4 low range: 1000MHz, 60GB, 256MB RAM, CD-RW. $1794.
(2b) PowerMac G4 mid range: 1200MHz, 80GB, 256MB RAM, Superdrive. $2494.
(2c) PowerMac G4 top of the line: Dual 1400MHz, 100GB, 512MB RAM, Superdrive. $3494.
(3) Specs for iMac updates with 15 inch LCD:
(3a) iMac G4 low range: 800MHz G4, 40GB, 256MB RAM, CD-RW. $1394.
(3b) iMac G4 mid range: 900MHz G4, 60GB, 256MB RAM, Superdrive. $1594.
(3c) iMac G4 top of the line: 1000MHz G4, 80GB, 512MB, Superdrive. $1894.

Wouldn't there be a 933 mhz G4 on the mid range imac, i don't think 900 exist.:confused:
And why would the price be droped by 5$ , that doesn't make sense.

[Goober]

---The first set of G4 systems (all speeds released) were with a hybrid motherboard (a cross-gap measure until they could get the first true G4 motherboard out) code named "Yikes". The second set of G4 systems to come out used the first true G4 motherboard, code named "Sawtooth". All the systems used the motherboard, there were not Yikes and Sawtooth in production at the same time.

Yikes used a PCI video card slot, and in speeds of 350 and 400MHz. Sawtooth used the first AGP video card slot and came in 350, 400, 450 and 500MHz models. Eventually the Sawtooth also had dual processor versions, before they went to the next motherboard revision (Gigabit ethernet) code named "Mystic" with 400MHz (single processor), 450MHz and 500MHz (dual processors). Those were the last with the 100MHz system bus, which also used PC100 memory. After that, they went to the 133MHz bus, and used PC133 memory (PC100 is not recognized in them).---

The above information is a little inaccurate. Let me clarify a bit: The lowend Powermac G4, when it was first released, was a G4 400 on a Yikes MB. This is the same MB as the B/W G3s. The Sawtooth boards were released at the same time, running at 450 and 500. So there WAS a difference of MBs across the product line during that time.

Then, two things happened. First, the G4s got downclocked to 350, 400, and 450 when apple realized that Moto couldn't ship the 500 chips.

So then there was, very briefly, a 350 mhz G4 on a Yikes MB.

Then the Yikes machines got upgraded to Sawtooth so that all the machines in the line were then on the Sawtooth board. At that point, there was a 350,400,450--all on Sawtooth.

These were sad days for Apple. I know all this becuase I bought a 400mhz Yikes. It was all I could afford, but I ended up feeling cool becuase my machine (the processor at least) ended up being as fast as the midrange machine for a awhile.

[Postal]

kevinibook:

The iMac is on a 100 MHz bus, so the clock multiplier wouldn't allow for a 933 MHz chip unless the range was moved to a 133 MHz bus, as with the current PowerMac (most CPUs need to increase the multiplier by either 0.5 or 1, such as 6 x 133 MHz or 8 x 100 MHz). With the existing design they'd probably have to move up to 900 and/or 1000 MHz G4s.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to move up to 133 MHz buses though. While my brief tryouts of the new iMac suggest that it's fast enough for the average user, some people note that it feels a bit pokey. A 133 MHz bus would make a given iMac feel faster even at the same clock speed, and it would also allow Apple more subtle changes in their lineup (i.e. they don't always have to go in 100 MHz increments).

King Cobra:

Those specs seem valid enough, but I'd change three things: first, drop the prices for the PowerMacs to where they are now. Next, I think the iMac range will still have less seperation in terms of performance; the low- and mid-range models would have 800 or 900 MHz G4s, while only the top-end has the 1 GHz chip. I'd lastly suspect that Apple would keep the Combo drive for the mid-range, since it shaves off a substantial amount of the cost but still has what most people want.

[topicolo]

hey postal, you're in Ottawa too? there are so few mac users here...

[King Cobra]

>(Postal)Those specs seem valid enough, but I'd change three things: first, drop the prices for the PowerMacs to where they are now.
Here is why I didn't. The powerbooks to 667MHz did get the low $3000 price for the high end, but then the prices shot back up. I am afraid that the same thing will happen to the PowerMacs. But I didn't want to put the top end near $4000, since adding a 17 inch monitor would bring the whole cost to a ridiculous half $10k. I could be wrong, but with the trend of the Powerbook prices I would expect Apple to continue the trend with their PowerMacs. Otherwise, sales in the Powerbook world would go down, plain and simple.

>Next, I think the iMac range will still have less seperation in terms of performance; the low- and mid-range models would have 800 or 900 MHz G4s, while only the top-end has the 1 GHz chip.
Remember back to the last revision of the Apple iMac G3 CRT? The models went from 500MHz to 700MHz. Also, it seems as if the high end iMac is usually right around the speed for the low end PowerMac. Finally, I assumed for a guess that since the iMac G4 700MHz was the low end for the last top model G3 iMac in terms of speed, I expect the low end of the revived iMac G4 to have the low end 800MHz. But you may be right, Postal. Maybe Apple will have less separation and go with 900 and 1000MHz models.

>I'd lastly suspect that Apple would keep the Combo drive for the mid-range, since it shaves off a substantial amount of the cost but still has what most people want.
I'll give you this one entirely. I'm going to edit my previous post for this setup.

[Pelorus]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
When was the last time we saw two dual processor systems from Apple (and I am not talking about the 'fastest' and then 'ultimate' from the online store)??? Answer: never.

Remember the first series of MP G4s...

I'd say that you can forget about bluetooth integrated into any Mac systems. You are more likely to have PCMCIA and PCI cards with it then you are to have it integrated.

It'll be integrated as much as Airport is. A little birdie told me Apple is looking at including it in the displays...and not in the G4 units themselves.

High end DDR, hopefully, at least 266MHz (PC2100).

Frankly I'd be disappointed if this wasn't across the board.

FireWire 2? As long as they still have FireWire 1 ports, or ship the computers with adapter cables as well.

FireWire2 ain't even port compatible...who knows when we'll see this.

Since Apple [typically] uses the same motherboard in all the towers, I can't see them using two different memory types. Either ALL PC133 or ALL PC2100/2700.

I'd not be terribly surprised in seeing a lower end "Yikes!" option - frankly I'd like Apple to do a baseline machine - a Cube that was priced right with one PCI and one AGP slot. Inexpensive but not cheap.

[DavPeanut]

How does this sound:
PowerMac 1.4Ghz DP 4 MB L3 512 k L2 2x 120 GB 2 GB DDR RAM 4,200
22” LCD 2,500

PowerBook 1 Ghz 1 MB L3 256 k L2 60 GB 1 GB RAM 3,800

Two Total of the following:
iMac G4 800 Combo 60 GB 512 RAM 1,500
iBook 12.1” 700 Combo 20 GB 256 RAM 1,500

2 iPod 5 GB 800

Airport All around 600

Applecare 1,000

Family Pack Setup Kit 100
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total 16,500
Special Family Price 10,000

[DavPeanut]

I like the idea :D

[King Cobra]

Dav, why the he!! are you responding to yourself like that? Furthermore, who do you think is going to purchase all 4 lines of products like that (PowerMac/Book, iMac/Book)? I think most people want one computer from just want one, maybe two, lines of Apple products.

I know it may be a fun prediction, but at least contradict yourself if you are going to double post like that! :D

[kevinibook]

Personaly, I'd like to see integrated Bluetooth on all new macs. However it proably won't happen because
a) Bluetooth has not been adopted in the USA as much as it has been in Europe (It was developed by Ericsson)
b) For the same reason there are virtually no devices that use B.T in the USA

[mmmdreg]

I doubt that the G4 will go to 1.5GHz...even 1.4 is optimistic...because that is a large leap considering all the previous updates..and with the rest of the rumored advancements, it will already be much better without the massive speed increase...Apple probably wants to keep a gap open that they can gradually close until the final release of the G5 so I think they won't go and max out the processor in case they can't come up with anything else before the G5 appears...IMHO..

[Grokgod]

I agree that APPLE may want to stream out the speed bumps till the uhh g5.

But i dont think that looking at the past is totally indicative of what will happen.
Remember MAc's were stuck a 500 for a long while, I think that they even went back 50 once!

[Postal]

topicolo:

Hey, I haven't gone Mac... yet (I'm mainly at sites like this so that I can get myself acclimated). However, we do indeed have Mac users in the area. Probably the most well-known is Patrick Gant, also known as one of the "switchers" in Apple's TV ads. :) I know at least one other Mac user myself.

By the way, if you ever want to "geek out" and check out some Macs but don't want to head to that B.Mac store on the West end, the University of Ottawa campus bookstore currently has an iBook, Powerbook, PowerMac G4 and (of course) the new iMac on display. I know that they used to have an eMac on display but it's presumably been sold.

[DavPeanut]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Dav, why the he!! are you responding to yourself like that? Furthermore, who do you think is going to purchase all 4 lines of products like that (PowerMac/Book, iMac/Book)? I think most people want one computer from just want one, maybe two, lines of Apple products.
One for the poseful computer for everyone, one for parents to share as a portable. The iMacs or iBooks would be one for each kid (The average number of kids per family is 2.1). Whats wrong.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by DavPeanut

One for the poseful computer for everyone, one for parents to share as a portable. The iMacs or iBooks would be one for each kid (The average number of kids per family is 2.1). Whats wrong.

What's wrong is your assumption that familys can afford to drop $10,000+ on computers at a shot. While they MIGHT purchase one computer every year or four, not enough of them have the financial ability to drop that kind of green at one shot.

The average household cannot, and will not, purchase more then one computer a year (except in a few rare cases). Even family with children, have more pressing needs then computers for their kids.

Think about it for a few, how many middle classed families either have that kind of money, or are willing to spend all of it on computers? Answer: Not enough to warrant that kind of package. :p

[DavPeanut]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
What's wrong is your assumption that familys can afford to drop $10,000+ on computers at a shot. While they MIGHT purchase one computer every year or four, not enough of them have the financial ability to drop that kind of green at one shot.

The average household cannot, and will not, purchase more then one computer a year (except in a few rare cases). Even family with children, have more pressing needs then computers for their kids.

Think about it for a few, how many middle classed families either have that kind of money, or are willing to spend all of it on computers? Answer: Not enough to warrant that kind of package. :p
I see your point. I'm an upper-middle kid, and my family could do this if they wanted to. My mom said that families should get a discount if they get more than one computer, like %10 off the second %20 off all computers after 2! I think that would give families a big incentive to buy more than one.

[skunk]

What's the mugging rate like in Maryland?

[job]

Originally posted by skunk
What's the mugging rate like in Maryland?

:D lol. Probably a little higher now. :D

[neilt]

Originally posted by DavPeanut

I see your point. I'm an upper-middle kid, and my family could do this if they wanted to. My mom said that families should get a discount if they get more than one computer, like %10 off the second %20 off all computers after 2! I think that would give families a big incentive to buy more than one.

What part of Maryland are you from? Sounds like Chevy Chase or Bethesda!

nt

[DavPeanut]

I'm from rrockville, and thats just north of Potomac. Yay for the yuppies! At least I do use a mac.

[DavPeanut]

Originally posted by skunk
What's the mugging rate like in Maryland?
About O.:D

[teabgs]

Originally posted by DavPeanut
I'm from rrockville, and thats just north of Potomac. Yay for the yuppies! At least I do use a mac.

MD in tha hizouch!

Do you goto Whitman or Churchill HS?

I'm origionally from Montgomery Village, went to Watkins Mill...but now I call NYC my home, it's better here :D

also, since you havent replied in the other thread....I'll email you the specs of the new towers when theyre released. just pm me if yuou want and give me the camps email address...also, just wondering if the camp is actually Capital Camps?

[LaserGuided]

I don't think they'll split the motherboards up
It wouldn't be "prudent at this juncture".
It wouldn't be forward thinking and it would be a harder sell to have pc133 ram instead
of DDR for the base line "pro systems"

:p

[Grokgod]

If the MW towers dont have DDRam they are NOT going to sell.


PERIOD!

JOBs has GOT to know this.

[teabgs]

Originally posted by Grokgod
If the MW towers dont have DDRam they are NOT going to sell.


PERIOD!

JOBs has GOT to know this.

thats not true. They'll sell, just not well.

I'll buy one even without DDR BUT I will be incredably pissed! I didnt buy a dual 1Ghz because of the lack of DDR and I needed a new tower then. I cant wait any longer and still get work done. My machine is too out dated.

a PC is unacceptable to me, and so, if there is no DDR, I just will deal without it.:( I will be VERY angry though.....but I will buy.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Grokgod
If the MW towers dont have DDRam they are NOT going to sell.


PERIOD!

JOBs has GOT to know this.

Even if Apple doesn't use DDR in the towers, I am sure they will do something to make them attractive enough to sell them. But, with DDR in the Xserve, I don't think it will be too hard for them to put it into the towers as well.

We have ~10 days to find out what is going to happen... Only time will tell.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I was well into my stride yesterday, posting a reply on the "Rebirth of the Cube" thread, when I stumbled upon a rather interesting theory...

What if an optical drive manufacturer had finally cracked the problem of the slot-loading SuperDrive?

TiBook upgrades (and therefore Cube upgrades, for the loyal followers...) at MWNY.

Not only that - a complete redesign of the iMac for next year's MWSF (at the earliest - after all, the new design's only just come out). I'm predicting a 17-18" LCD with slot-loading SuperDrive and motherboard all resident behind the screen - perhaps with handwriting recognition directly to the LCD - all thanks to the Jaguar build. Picture the Wacom Cintiq, and you might get the idea...

Well - Steve let the cat out of the bag at the launch of the Luxo Lamp iMac, when he said that the all-in-one design couldn't work because of technological limitations with the drive.

Now, well...

;)

[skunk]

Sounds great, but where the hell would ANOTHER line of enclosures fit in the famous "product matrix"?

[kiwi_the_iwik]

"As one door closes, another opens..."

It's purely speculative, but it's definitely on the cards. Think about it -

Location, location, location.
The number 1 rule in Real Estate (no - I'm not an estate agent... lol!). But people do want to reclaim their desks. No consumer wants big and bulky anymore - just look at how successful the iMac was/is.

Jaguar offers handwriting recognition.
What better way to utilise the old Newton technology integrated into the new OS. And writing onto a screen that contains text and images would feel far more natural than writing on a small pad.

People want "sexy".
Apple products are attractive to look at, especially compared to the beige boxes that still grace the PC shelves. But now, the others are catching up - either by using Apple's design standards, or by inventing their own wacky interpretations of the future. That's why a one-piece screen/G4 motherboard/SuperDrive configuration would be totally unbeatable. And a complete show-stopper.

"Mini-me"...
All of this talk of a PDA may be closer to the truth than you think. OK - so what if the idea of a one-piece LCD iMac with a SuperDrive that looks in it's entirety no bigger than an existing 17" monitor may be correct? Imagine a small colour LCD PDA, virtually identical in design to it's bigger sibling, running a cut-down version of X - complete with handwriting technology handed down from the Newton. With it, you can take your work anywhere you want with complete confidence of compatibility - because it fits with it's older brother like a glove, via the proven FireWire link and it's 10Gb hard drive.


Maybe they are just pipe dreams...

...but - what if?

;) (Coming to a town near you - soon)

[kevinibook]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
"As one door closes, another opens..."


The number 1 rule in Real Estate (no - I'm not an estate agent... lol!). But people do want to reclaim their desks. No consumer wants big and bulky anymore - just look at how successful the iMac was/is.

Not exactly, look at PC's and how they sell. Actually only one PC company (IBM) does all-in one, the Netvista and according to IBM sales of the product were "very dissapointing".

All in one just doesn't work with PC's...

NB: Dell said he wants to do the same thing, the man just can't take a hint ;)

[galopagos]

The man didnt say that all all-in-ones will succeed like the imac did. Look at emachine... hell look at the small MSN WinCE computer that walmart cant push on people for $40. IBM simply made a bad, boxy lokin piece of crap that was not flexible in any sense.
As a matter of fact, the product designers at IBM seem to be stuck in the 1960's pop culture. Their flat screens have white blue and orange WAVY BUTTONS. Hideous. They made good with keeping a logo that stays fresh even after 120 years, but they need to do something about the blind chimps designing their cases.

[topicolo]

Originally posted by Postal
topicolo:

Hey, I haven't gone Mac... yet (I'm mainly at sites like this so that I can get myself acclimated). However, we do indeed have Mac users in the area. Probably the most well-known is Patrick Gant, also known as one of the "switchers" in Apple's TV ads. :) I know at least one other Mac user myself.

By the way, if you ever want to "geek out" and check out some Macs but don't want to head to that B.Mac store on the West end, the University of Ottawa campus bookstore currently has an iBook, Powerbook, PowerMac G4 and (of course) the new iMac on display. I know that they used to have an eMac on display but it's presumably been sold.

Yeah, I know. I actually go to that university (unfortunately) ;). I plan on getting either an ibook or a TiBook in a couple of years there. The educational discount is amazing!

[Edge100]

By the way, if you ever want to "geek out" and check out some Macs but don't want to head to that B.Mac store on the West end, the University of Ottawa campus bookstore currently has an iBook, Powerbook, PowerMac G4 and (of course) the new iMac on display.

I know that they used to have an eMac on display but it's presumably been sold.

Wow, I didnt know there were so many of us U of Ottawa people here!! I'm doing my M.Sc in Molecular Medicine.

I have found the U of O bookstore to be quite a pain as far as buying a Mac. Granted, they have a very good stock, but if you want one, you have to wait for their order to come in. Annoying if you need a computer fast (which I did, last year)

[kevinibook]

Educational discounts aren't that amazing... it's only 200$ that you save sometimes and otherimes you save 3$. (i.e Pro Mouse)