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BG-Mac
Jun 14, 2009, 09:51 AM
Looks interesting. Do you think Apple with support it? Probably not, but who knows.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/12/blu-ray-gets-managed-copy-next-year-requries-new-hardware/



Cynicalone
Jun 14, 2009, 01:26 PM
I've always been annoyed with the fact you couldn't import DVD's into iTunes the way you can CD's. This would give Apple the option to both add BR support and enable importing of the movie to iTunes. I would love that option.

Tallest Skil
Jun 14, 2009, 01:27 PM
I'm not paying to make a copy of something I already bought. Legally, I don't have to.

Apple doesn't even support Blu-ray yet. They couldn't care less about this.

nuckinfutz
Jun 14, 2009, 02:01 PM
Looks interesting. Do you think Apple with support it? Probably not, but who knows.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/12/blu-ray-gets-managed-copy-next-year-requries-new-hardware/

1. Requires new hardware = FAIL

2. Requires connection to AACS authentication servers - FAIL

3. Windows DRM for digital computer files = Mega FAIL

So you want Apple, Linux and every other non Microsoft OS to license Microsofts DRM? Not going to happen.

When Steve Jobs called Blu-ray a "Bag of hurt" he wasn't lying folks. Blu-ray is the most ridiculous format I've ever seen.

old-wiz
Jun 14, 2009, 03:20 PM
And connecting to AACS servers invites them to track you and put you on the list for more spam.

Porco
Jun 14, 2009, 03:31 PM
I love Blu-ray, but managed copy seems like a faffy waste of time that will only give some more ammunition to those who don't like the format. They should just concentrate on Blu-ray's core strengths and get the prices down. As a mac user it's irrelevant anyway, for obvious Apple-flavoured reasons.

nuckinfutz
Jun 14, 2009, 03:34 PM
I love Blu-ray, but managed copy seems like a faffy waste of time that will only give some more ammunition to those who don't like the format. They should just concentrate on Blu-ray's core strengths and get the prices down. As a mac user it's irrelevant anyway, for obvious Apple-flavoured reasons.

I own Blu-ray discs myself but it's not a friendly computing format. If someone has a disc with 1080p disc running high bitrate video and lossless sound it's overkill for a computer where the avg monitor size is less than 24"

Porco
Jun 15, 2009, 02:16 PM
I own Blu-ray discs myself but it's not a friendly computing format. If someone has a disc with 1080p disc running high bitrate video and lossless sound it's overkill for a computer where the avg monitor size is less than 24"

Well... I have to disagree on screen size / resolution. Even with a more heavily compressed downloadable trailer, the difference between a DVD resolution file and a 1080p one is clear. Go try it if you like. I'm sure most people are sat much nearer to a computer display than a TV, so the resolution makes a bigger difference.

You could argue lots of things are overkill. Multi-core multi-Ghz CPUs are overkill if you're just editing text. Multi-Mbps broadband is overkill for just sending a simple text e-mail. It doesn't mean they're not still worth having though, just as having that high bit-rate video and lossless audio onteh disc is worth having when it's being utilised. It's better to downgrade 1080p to whatever your screen res is than blow it up from DVD or worse, isn't it?

Where I'd agree is that it's unfriendly in terms of all the stupid licensing and DRM etc that has given Apple an excuse to not support it yet. I'm not sure managed copy makes it much more 'friendly', it sounds like a ridiculously overcomplicated way for not much benefit. I just wish they'd all (Blu-ray Acssociation, the studios, Microsoft, Apple...) stop treating their customers like criminals who have to be 'managed' at all.

nuckinfutz
Jun 15, 2009, 02:22 PM
Where I'd agree is that it's unfriendly in terms of all the stupid licensing and DRM etc that has given Apple an excuse to not support it yet. I'm not sure managed copy makes it much more 'friendly', it sounds like a ridiculously overcomplicated way for not much benefit. I just wish they'd all (Blu-ray Acssociation, the studios, Microsoft, Apple...) stop treating their customers like criminals who have to be 'managed' at all.

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