Congratulations Team Mac OS X - #1 Mac Folding Team

[Rower_CPU]

Let's all take a moment to acknowledge the great effort on the part of Team Mac OS X to regain their position as the #1 Mac F@H team. We took the crown from them back in June of 2003 and they've steadily come back since then. They passed us at about 4:30PM PDT today and there may be some back and forth as results come in, but their output far exceeds ours right now.

Good job Noah and crew! :)

That said, get to working recruiting and see if we can't take the title right back. ;)

[cjc343]

Good job.


Anyone know how many computers running at 2.6 ghz we would need to get an extra 30,000 points a day?

[Sailfish]

That said, get to working recruiting and see if we can't take the title right back. ;)

Let's see if I remember your answer when I said waaayyyyy back that Team Mac OS X was catching up.

oh yea

As you try to catch up, we will be pulling away

:D

[pinto32]

Yes, congrats to Team OS X...the more Mac teams in the top 20 the better....

[Mustang Mac]

Anyone know how many computers running at 2.6 ghz we would need to get an extra 30,000 points a day?

Depends on the processor. A conservative estimate would give you about 60 points per day for each processor (physical or virtual) depending on the units handed out. Roughly 500 computers. Start calling all your friends and enemas! ;)

[krimson]

Couldn't figure out where else to post this, so ill post it here.

just started my first WU. ;D

Yay! :)

[familyte]

Welcome to the fold. Thanks for the contribution! Its all to the Good. :)

[bousozoku]

Congratulations not only to them but to every Macintosh user who participates in a better future for us all.

[baby duck monge]

i wish i could have been helping with some more points, but for the past few days i have been stuck with some huge tinkers (?) on both my procs. hopefully after those finish up, i will be adding points again for a while on a daily basis.

[Rower_CPU]

Just a reminder for those with #1 in your signatures, please update those in a timely fashion. :)

[wdlove]

I just noticed the change to #19, it confused me at first. Was looking in #18 without seeing the name, then couldn't find my name. That is when I noticed the name change. I very confident that we will regain the title once again.

By the way where is the banner, I think that would help recruiting if we were putting it out.

[jethroted]

We will be back on top again. Although we seem to have lost some steam from some of the people at the top. Where has all the power gone?

[Rower_CPU]

We will be back on top again. Although we seem to have lost some steam from some of the people at the top. Where has all the power gone?

Some of our big folders from the past moved to new jobs and had to leave labs behind, from what I understand. As for mc68k and I, we're stuck waiting for hardware updates on a less than optimistic CSU budget. :(

Sounds like you'll keep us going for a while with your new possibilities. ;)

[cazlar]

Congrats to Team Mac OS X. I've just begun folding (for macrumors of course), and just finished my first WU today, with a second nearly done (now installed on a G4 iMac and G3 iMac fulltime, and on my G4 PB whenever it's awake). It's not much, but every bit counts I guess!

[jethroted]

Some of our big folders from the past moved to new jobs and had to leave jobs behind, from what I understand. As for mc68k and I, we're stuck waiting for hardware updates on a less than optimistic CSU budget. :(

Sounds like you'll keep us going for a while with your new possibilities. ;)


The good thing is that even if I leave the folding should continue. The idea is that it will become a life of it's own so that it keeps on going no matter who is running things. We'll have to see. My daily rate keeps moving up though. You gotta love that!

[NoahJ]

Thanks Rower_CPU! We will be watching your team as it shrinks in the rear view, and try to keep that gap from closing. I know you will give us another run for our money, the question is, will it be enough? ;)

[Dreadnought]

Yes it will, you can count on that. The only question is when... Congrats Team OS X, may you enjoy while it lasts!

[Dreadnought]

Mustang Mac, I have to admit, your post where funny, I laughed a lot the last couple of days! I hope I didn't offend you when taunting back!

Congratulations again, Dreadnought

[jethroted]

Guys, I don't mean to blow my own horn, but I just about took a crap in my pants when I saw this. Here is a snapshot of what my daily folding rate has grown to. This project is going way above my guestimates. If I keep adding folding to this many machines every week, in a month from now my daily rate is going to be insane.


http://teamstats.macnn.com/fold/includes/Outfiles/fold_3446_Graph_ctmp5324997_srBig.png

[baby duck monge]

http://teamstats.macnn.com/fold/includes/Outfiles/fold_3446_Graph_ctmp5324997_srBig.png

404 not found

[jethroted]

404 not found


Ah, the address changes as the stats do. Guess that link won't do. Nevermind. You can check here for the teams stats.


http://teamstats.macnn.com/fold/stats.php?page=a1&TID=3446&sort=StatsTotal&order=desc&range=100

[cjc343]

I'm not seeing much... but looking at your ExtremeOverclocking (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=28932) stats tells me that we are very happy to have you folding for macrumors..... that is a BIG jump.



Keep up the GREAT work....

[KingSleaze]

I'm giving it all she's got Cap'n. My 1.25 GHz PB has been chewing rather vigorously on the same protien for the past 3 days (and it's still only 60% done). I've slipped a few spaces in the individual standings.

[Sparky's]

I feel so inadequate. My little G4-500 just giot hammered with my 3rd Tinker. They take 12-14 days to complete, but at least its 128 points.

[Rower_CPU]

I feel so inadequate. My little G4-500 just hammered with my 3rd Tinker they take me 12-14 days to complete, but at least its 128 points.

No need to feel bad. I think it's great that we've got people dedicated to the project and giving it their best shot, regardless of folding power. :)

[jethroted]

No need to feel bad. I think it's great that we've got people dedicated to the project and giving it their best shot, regardless of folding power. :)

I agree. Until a month ago or so, I relied on my computers at home and some of my friends. I kept plugin' away until I was able to get my mits on a massive quatity of computers. You never know when you will get your hands on hundreds of computers. I never thought I would have the chance to contribute like this. I'm just glad to help out any way I can.

[dizastor]

I started folding 2 weeks ago for team Macrumors. at first I wasnt leaving my computers on overnight, but now... its full speed ahead 24/7.

So far I have 37wu's done and 3 more coming that are more than 50% done.

I'm boldimpact on the list #368 and climbing...
W00T! go macrumors!

[Mustang Mac]

Wow. Sure is quiet around these parts. Maybe we should pause Folding for a little while so you can pass us, and then we can start the battle anew. :p Nope! Warp speed ahead! Engage!

http://www.nexus1.net/STV-Photos/V-13.jpg

[jethroted]

Wow. Sure is quiet around these parts. Maybe we should pause Folding for a little while so you can pass us, and then we can start the battle anew. :p Nope! Warp speed ahead! Engage!

http://www.nexus1.net/STV-Photos/V-13.jpg


Oh I'm comming for you, and you're going to get a can o whoop ass opened up on you when I get there! ;)

[Mustang Mac]

Oh I'm comming for you, and you're going to get a can o whoop ass opened up on you when I get there! ;)

*YAWN* I grow tired of your idle threats. Either go or get off the toilet! Better bring more than a can my friend! I'm waiting. And waiting. And waiting. :) Still waiting! I'll be ready, any time now!

http://www.armsystems.com/emoticons/MIB.gif

[jethroted]

*YAWN* I grow tired of your idle threats. Either go or get off the toilet! Better bring more than a can my friend! I'm waiting. And waiting. And waiting. :) Still waiting! I'll be ready, any time now!


Well, let's have a little math review. Are you aware of the term "exponential growth"? How about "constant growth"? Let's look at some examples.

Here is my folding graph:
http://www.osirus.biz/me1.jpg

Here is yours:
http://www.osirus.biz/you1.jpg


You will notice that your line is straight. This is what we refer to as "constant growth". This means that you will keep moving forward at a high rate, but at one which remains constant. You should now take notice of my graph. It curves upward. This is what is known as "exponential growth". This means that my daily rate will keep moving forward at a high rate, but keep getting higher every day. If my rate continues to grow every day at the current exponent, I should be folding at about 25000 a day after one month. I already fold about as much as you do in a day, and I haven't even gotten started yet!


I just thought I should add these as visual aids.


My last weeks growth:
http://www.osirus.biz/me.jpg

Your last weeks constant:
http://www.osirus.biz/you.jpg

[Mustang Mac]

If my rate continues to grow every day at the current exponent, I should be folding at about 25000 a day after one month.

Yep. What two letters stand out most in that quote? I and F. Put 'em both together and they spell IF! :p

PS - I didn't know you cared! I'm touched! Ohhh, look at the pretty pictures! :) It's a Hallmark moment!

[jethroted]

Yep. What two letters stand out most in that quote? I and F. Put 'em both together and they spell IF! :p

PS - I didn't know you cared! I'm touched! Ohhh, look at the pretty pictures! :) It's a Hallmark moment!

Well I guess all we can do is wait and see now. It will be fun.

[MrMacMan]

Well I guess all we can do is wait and see now. It will be fun.

yeah nice going there.

You have an awesome output there kickin job. :D

[mc68k]

jethroted,

haha ur exponential comparison was hilarious :)

u seem headed for the top 20 for overall folding users :D

keep up the awesome production. remeber the key is not quantitiy of computers, but if you can keep them on 24/7

[Mustang Mac]

u seem headed for the top 20

but if you can keep them on 24/7

There are those two pesky letters again! Funny how those sneak up on you! And now we can add a 'seem' with a 'but'. I don't know? I'm not sensing much confidence in your newly attained powah! Let me know when you are VISIBLE in the rearview mirror. :p Fold on, if you can!

[Dreadnought]

The other day there was a post on how much machines we would need to kick Team os X but and become the number one Mac team again. The guy who posted this said that he had a lot of 2.6 ghz procs (or that was his idea, or something). Well under the shower it hit me, or I started thinking about it again:

One 2.6 machine does 100 points per day, maybe a bit more. Team os X is outproducing us by about 50.000-28.000= 22.000 points per day. Therefore, it is save to say that we need at least 22.000/100= 220 machines! So, the conclusion is: Who has a good lab or a couple of classrooms with fast computers? :D

[cjc343]

Well... I was the one who asked...


I could get my hands on a bunch of machines which I THINK run at 2.6 ghz, but it wouldn't be for a few weeks, and it might take some negotiation with the owner.

edit:


It wouldn't be 220 machines....

[jethroted]

The other day there was a post on how much machines we would need to kick Team os X but and become the number one Mac team again. The guy who posted this said that he had a lot of 2.6 ghz procs (or that was his idea, or something). Well under the shower it hit me, or I started thinking about it again:

One 2.6 machine does 100 points per day, maybe a bit more. Team os X is outproducing us by about 50.000-28.000= 22.000 points per day. Therefore, it is save to say that we need at least 22.000/100= 220 machines! So, the conclusion is: Who has a good lab or a couple of classrooms with fast computers? :D


I'm working on it. I still have many machines at my disposal. My only hurdle is the department people need to let me in. One by one they are surendering their machines to me. :D

[Dreadnought]

Team Os X here we come! :D BTW, you do have so many machines? Also tried doing this at work, but can't seem to get through the firewall. Proxy and port are good, but it can't connect to the outside world. Even had the IT department looking for it. But after a few days they said that they didn't want to put any more time in it because it was a program that they didn't support.... And we are a researchcompany, also part in medical, go figure...

[jethroted]

Team Os X here we come! :D BTW, you do have so many machines? Also tried doing this at work, but can't seem to get through the firewall. Proxy and port are good, but it can't connect to the outside world. Even had the IT department looking for it. But after a few days they said that they didn't want to put any more time in it because it was a program that they didn't support.... And we are a researchcompany, also part in medical, go figure...

We had some proxy troubles too. I can't remember how we got around them though. I know that the proxy options in the folding app did nothing to get through it. I think as long as you are a domain user that has access through port 80 then you should be able to run folding and get through the proxy.

[Dreadnought]

port 80... will give it a try tomorrow! Well, the FAH app normally uses port 8080, which is the same with our firewall. So after installing the app and setting everything up, including the proxy and the port, it still couldn't connect to the outside world. Our firewall is blocking it for some reason, and according to our IT department it shouldn't be doing that. They think it has something to do with the standard port folding uses, which is the same port we use. Does this make sense?

Rower, could you rename this thread to: Our strategy on how to overtake Team Os X, or something!

[cjc343]

I think that you need to use the "-local" tag... but I'm not sure. If you don't, then I am really confused as to what it does.

[Mustang Mac]

Rower, could you rename this thread to: Our strategy on how to overtake Team Os X, or something!

How about 'Yawn - enter the sandman.' :p

http://www.acclaimstockphotography.com/_gallery/_SM/0003-0208-2216-0328_SM.jpg

[Dreadnought]

I think that you need to use the "-local" tag... but I'm not sure. If you don't, then I am really confused as to what it does.

Could you explain that a bit more? Where do I put the -local tag? My work pc is a 2,0 P4 running the console version (if it ever runs).

[Dreadnought]

How about 'Yawn - enter the sandman.' :p

Somebody is getting scared, I smell fear... HA HA HA

[cjc343]

ah... ok...

You would make a .bat file and put it in the working directory of F@H. Then add it to the startup items.


sample:


@echo off

set FAHPROGRAM="C:\Documents and Settings\User_Name\Desktop\FAH4Console.exe"


@echo on

%FAHPROGRAM% -advmethods -verbosity 9

pause


Basically, this tells the computer to run F@H from the specified directory (change it to match your directory (where the F@H executable is)). It then tells it to run using the "-advmethods" and the "verbosity 9" tags. You would just put "-local" there.

Keep in mind, you will need to change the directories.

To use this, paste it into a .txt file and save it. Then rename the file "name.bat" where name is whatever you named it.

Is that clear?


edit:


There are other ways to do this, that is just the way I use.

If you are running F@H as a service, I need to know what program you used to make it run as a service first.

[nw_mike]

You output is simply amazing! I checked the stats and it says 9 active processors , what in the heck are they? Man if our team had a bunch more of those Team Mac OS X Rumors would rock!

Keep up the good work!

[cjc343]

:D I think that the 9 processors has something to do with being behind government security... all of the computers there probably get registered as one. The other problem could be with the way that F@H is being installed, where it is not giving each machine a valid machine ID because the configuration file is just being pasted over and over again on new machines..... just my guess...

[Dreadnought]

ah... ok...

You would make a .bat file and put it in the working directory of F@H. Then add it to the startup items.


sample:


@echo off

set FAHPROGRAM="C:\Documents and Settings\User_Name\Desktop\FAH4Console.exe"


@echo on

%FAHPROGRAM% -advmethods -verbosity 9

pause


Basically, this tells the computer to run F@H from the specified directory (change it to match your directory (where the F@H executable is)). It then tells it to run using the "-advmethods" and the "verbosity 9" tags. You would just put "-local" there.

Keep in mind, you will need to change the directories.

To use this, paste it into a .txt file and save it. Then rename the file "name.bat" where name is whatever you named it.

Is that clear?

edit:

There are other ways to do this, that is just the way I use.

If you are running F@H as a service, I need to know what program you used to make it run as a service first.

Yeah, it is clear, only it still doesn't work. Got your code working! see the pic here under. The second one is the normal FAHconsole version working and not getting through the firewall.

[jethroted]

You output is simply amazing! I checked the stats and it says 9 active processors , what in the heck are they? Man if our team had a bunch more of those Team Mac OS X Rumors would rock!

Keep up the good work!

I can tell you that there are hundreds of computers not only 9! :eek:

[cjc343]

so the first one is using the .bat file? and the second is just running it?


If you look at the machine ID, it says 4 on one, and 1 on the other... from my understanding, the Machine ID tells it which processor to run on (although I'm sure there is more involved) I would try running it with a machine ID of 1.

Second: I don't know exactly which port F@H uses, but I would start by disabling your firewall and seeing if it works. If it does, that is your biggest problem.

Anyone know what port F@H uses? (I haven't had any trouble....)

[Dreadnought]

The first picture is the .bat file. The second is the normal console version which I downloaded from stanford. I tried everything, so also tried to give it an other number (4 this time, normally it is no. 1). If you download the graphical interface of FAH it says it uses standard port 8080. Also our IT department says that port 8080 is open for every kind of application. And to disable the firewall... That is the problem, I can't do that... There are about 1000 computers connected to our network and I am just a bookkeeper.

I will set it tomorrow on machine ID 1 and see what happens. But even know it should get a WU from Stanford, but it doesn't. And that is my problem! Your .bat file gives more information then the console version does. But it still can't connect to an assignment server...

[cjc343]

the "-verbosity 9" tag tells it to output more information to the screen than usual.... the "-advmethods" tells it to try not to get tinkers... athough you still will, you SHOULD get less.

ok... not being able to disable the firewall could be a problem... oh well...


Do you know if you use a proxy server? Did you configure it to use a Proxy server?

Did you change ANY of the options besides User Name and Team when you set the preferences?

Do you know if port 80 is also open to all applications? (It normally is...)

[cjc343]

Try loading these pages... all you should see is a blank page, but you shouldn't get any "Couldn't load any data from location" or "404 not found" or any errors at all.


http://assign.stanford.edu:8080

http://assign2.stanford.edu:80/


What version of Windows are you running?

Are you using the F@H console version provided by Stanford, or have you also been using some Windows equivilent of InCrease or Mac68k's scripts?

If you try using the graphical client, do things work?

[Dreadnought]

CJC343, both links are getting errors at my work in internet explorer. Can't load the page it says. I am running windows 2000 at work and running the console version from Stanford. Also tried the graphical client from Stanford, but that was the same story... So, if I understand correctly, our firewall is blocking access to the assignmentservers, right? Something else I also discovered, we have a 50 mb internet connection, but it is really slow... Also you can not listen to internet radio, not through Itunes or any other program. And if you do get through, it is only a matter of days before they block it.

I am willing to try out other folding apps that might work. Does anyone know of any?

[adamjay]

incredible output man!
now lets take back the crown!!!

[cjc343]

CJC343, both links are getting errors at my work in internet explorer. Can't load the page it says. I am running windows 2000 at work and running the console version from Stanford. Also tried the graphical client from Stanford, but that was the same story... So, if I understand correctly, our firewall is blocking access to the assignmentservers, right? Something else I also discovered, we have a 50 mb internet connection, but it is really slow... Also you can not listen to internet radio, not through Itunes or any other program. And if you do get through, it is only a matter of days before they block it.

I am willing to try out other folding apps that might work. Does anyone know of any?

want to share the errors you are getting with us?



All folding apps will access the same servers on the same port.

50 MB/s? or 50 Mb/s? (megabyte vs. megabit.... very confusing, but large difference)

This sounds like it is a firewall problem so far. Go talk with your network administrator and ask him/her/it to open up those web addresses using those ports. If they insist that they are, insist that they aren't and show them that you can't load the page.... then tell them that you have asked other people outside the network and they can access it easily.