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Jul 1, 2009, 09:38 AM
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Apple yesterday seeded (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/30/apple-releases-iphone-firmware-and-sdk-3-1-to-developers/) iPhone OS 3.1 and iPhone SDK 3.1 betas to developers for testing, and users have been digging through the new releases to document new features. Among the changes found so far by readers in our forums, at Redmond Pie (http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-3.1-is-now-available-to-developers-for-download/), and at MobileCrunch (http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/06/30/whats-new-in-the-iphone-os-31-beta/):

- Trimming video clips on the iPhone 3GS now offers the ability to save the edited version as a copy rather than simply overwriting the original file.
- Voice Control over Bluetooth is now available, allowing users to Initiate calls and control music playback via Bluetooth headsets.
- MMS is now enabled by default, but still not supported by AT&T.
- iPhone vibrates when rearranging Home screen icons.
- A "Fraud Protection" toggle is now available in Safari settings.
- iPhone startup and shutdown and app launching times have improved.
- New APIs allow developers of third-party application to access and edit videos.
- OpenGL and Quartz have seen improvements.

Article Link: iPhone OS 3.1 Features: Non-Destructive Video Editing, Voice Control Over Bluetooth and More (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/01/iphone-os-3-1-features-non-destructive-video-editing-voice-control-over-bluetooth-and-more/)



Beric
Jul 1, 2009, 09:42 AM
Plenty of extra features there. $5 for iPod Touch owners? :rolleyes:

justflie
Jul 1, 2009, 09:44 AM
Hurray for bluetooth voice control. I was very surprised that it didn't have it to start, but it's good to see the feature making its way into my iPhone quickly.

talkingfuture
Jul 1, 2009, 09:47 AM
Plenty of extra features there. $5 for iPod Touch owners? :rolleyes:

I think the point updates i.e. 3.1 are free. It won't cost us until 4.0

adrian.oconnor
Jul 1, 2009, 09:50 AM
Looks good! I normally only install the SDK versions of the OS on my iPod Touch, but I'm tempted to stick this on my new GS, to check out the video editing APIs.

Since 3.0 I've noticed mail making a bit of a mess with my Exchange inbox over IMAP - duplicate messages and the such like. Is anybody else getting that?

Beric
Jul 1, 2009, 09:51 AM
I think the point updates i.e. 3.1 are free. It won't cost us until 4.0

I was being sarcastic. ;)

badcrumble
Jul 1, 2009, 09:51 AM
I'm hoping for an improved system for displaying and sorting popup notifications - which shouldn't require changing any hooks on the developer end of things, just altering the way the OS shows them to the user (something like Android's notification drawer would be lovely, something to stop them from stealing focus).

mrblahh
Jul 1, 2009, 09:55 AM
have they fixed bluetooth A2DP so you can actually skip songs with a bluetooth headset? previous / next don't work with 3.0

njfuzzy
Jul 1, 2009, 09:55 AM
The only feature I want:

- User-defined Reply-To address in Mail, especially for MobileMe accounts.

bbplayer5
Jul 1, 2009, 09:55 AM
This is awesome!

anthonyjr
Jul 1, 2009, 09:57 AM
Forgot one:

- All iPhone 3GS models now have the ability to detonate all Palm Pres in a 100 yard radius.

AlphaJaguar5
Jul 1, 2009, 09:57 AM
How about an option to disable auto-tilt to landscape when in mail and text message. That is so freaking annoying.

dizzy13
Jul 1, 2009, 09:58 AM
How about an option to disable auto-tilt to landscape when in mail and text message. That is so freaking annoying.

Yes, I understand a lot of people wanted this and glad they have it, but when I'm laying down trying to write a text message or read email it is such a pain when it switches over to landscape.

the-oz-man
Jul 1, 2009, 09:59 AM
How about AT&T still dragging their feet . . . shocker.

wolfshades
Jul 1, 2009, 10:02 AM
Bluetooth voice command = sweet.

How about Flash though?

Flash is the new "cut and paste"...

Shasterball
Jul 1, 2009, 10:03 AM
No news on battery life? Or is that asking for too much...

naevity
Jul 1, 2009, 10:04 AM
Anyone who installed it know if they fixed the bug with AVCRP? Play/Pause works, but FFW/RWD/Skip did not.

DipDog3
Jul 1, 2009, 10:05 AM
Of course this is still a beta so there could be more goodies when Apple gives it to the rest of us.

joro
Jul 1, 2009, 10:09 AM
No news on battery life? Or is that asking for too much...

I had read somewhere, although I admittedly can’t find it now, that the 3.1 SDK had some sort of power management software that was supposed to increase battery life. I definitely think something of this sorts would be helpful though and hopefully it does end up being in the 3.1 update.

jholzner
Jul 1, 2009, 10:09 AM
How do you initiate voice control with bluetooth? Do you still have to press and hold the home button or can you do it from the headset itself?

igazza
Jul 1, 2009, 10:13 AM
Not much there for the 3G. i was hoping for battery %

iGary
Jul 1, 2009, 10:13 AM
Get your crap together, AT&T.

Pimptastic
Jul 1, 2009, 10:13 AM
How about an option to disable auto-tilt to landscape when in mail and text message. That is so freaking annoying.

+1

Also, i really could do with a "Mark all read" option in the Mail app :o

MisterK
Jul 1, 2009, 10:14 AM
Still no copy and paste... GAHHH!!!!!!!!!! (I'm kidding). Flash would be nice, though. I'm noticing Flash less and less on the web, but it's the sore point in our "real web browsing" pitch. Even if there was a small battery icon somewhere telling you that this webpage may be taxing your battery with its fancy animations, that would still be better than nothing. It would also be nice if the next iPhone had an actual Flash for the camera, too... I thought a cool implementation would be the apple logo on the back doing Flash duty.

After that, I'm just about out of recommendations. I actually really like having no physical keyboard. Just add Flash and flash and I'm willing to call the phone perfect. Oh... and an inward facing camera for video chats. Just add those and we're cool.

I love that there's so little to whine about with this phone, though. I bought a 3G here in Canada the day they came out (holding off on the 3Gs... guessing next year is gonna be worth the wait and the upgrade will be more dramatic since I only got a 3Gs for my wife). It's been a consistent love affair from day one. Apple, you make good phones.

Shasterball
Jul 1, 2009, 10:14 AM
I had read somewhere, although I admittedly can’t find it now, that the 3.1 SDK had some sort of power management software that was supposed to increase battery life. I definitely think something of this sorts would be helpful though and hopefully it does end up being in the 3.1 update.

OK. I would definitely like to see that!

Bryan605
Jul 1, 2009, 10:16 AM
How about an option to disable auto-tilt to landscape when in mail and text message. That is so freaking annoying.

I hate the Landscape Keyboard, and when laying in bed it always switches, and is super annoying

yudilks
Jul 1, 2009, 10:18 AM
Hi,

Can anyone who has already installed the new iPhone OS 3.1 give us the observation on this?

I notice that after I upgraded to 3.0 (and after prolonged usage), my app no longer quit "normally".. It means that it doesn't fade out to the distance as it usually did in 2.2.1

It does fade and minimize away if I just restarted my iPhone, but after prolonged usage, like after browsing in Safari, replying mails, and opening SMS, it no longer does this...

Anyone experience the same thing? It's kinda annoying.. You know, you're expecting something but it 's not there.. It's like something is missing... :o

Thanks beforehand

rols
Jul 1, 2009, 10:18 AM
How about an option to disable auto-tilt to landscape when in mail and text message. That is so freaking annoying.

I wish I hadn't lobbied for copy/paste, it's so ugly. I feel sure that apple had it in the original concept and deleted the code and wiped the disk it was on and then buried it in a large hole in the ground along with a few copies of Vista to make sure it rotted quickly. I don't even find it consistent, sometimes I get the choice of what to copy, sometimes everything is selected and that's it and just editing one character means getting the worlds largest phone popup asking me if I want to copy something.

oh yeah auto tilt on mail annoys me too, especially when it tilts and decides I shook the phone and tells me there's nothing to undo the next time I look at it.

MrE617
Jul 1, 2009, 10:19 AM
what's up with the ability to delete a single call from recent calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

stockscalper
Jul 1, 2009, 10:19 AM
Wonder if there will be any improvements in battery life and reception?

Shasterball
Jul 1, 2009, 10:21 AM
what's up with the ability to delete a single call from recent calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Is someone trying to be sneaky? :p

Beric
Jul 1, 2009, 10:22 AM
what's up with the ability to delete a single call from recent calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

"You didn't really call me, honey. See?"


About the only reason I can think up.

techfreak85
Jul 1, 2009, 10:22 AM
Get your crap together, AT&T.
amen! i cant wait till they come to verizon. my current phone is falling apart, and dont know how long ill make it...:eek:

tpk2002
Jul 1, 2009, 10:22 AM
My only complaints since day one was the ability to have more options for mail alert (more/longer vibrates, louder alert) and more options for text message alert.

I don't see these discussed very much, so I am curious if anyone else wants these same things?

Oh and the battery life still sucks....just sayin...

fleshman03
Jul 1, 2009, 10:26 AM
and it has copy and paste!

QCassidy352
Jul 1, 2009, 10:26 AM
please allow different emails accounts to have different signatures. it would be so easy and make such a difference for business users.

Eso
Jul 1, 2009, 10:26 AM
Is someone trying to be sneaky? :p

Why do people always say that? It's stupid.

It's such a nice option when you use your recent call log as a pseudo address book and you received a call from a wrong number, etc.

twoodcc
Jul 1, 2009, 10:26 AM
sounds great. gotta try these out soon

LagunaSol
Jul 1, 2009, 10:31 AM
Plenty of extra features there. $5 for iPod Touch owners? :rolleyes:

That would be a bargain. We iPhone owners pay $30 a month. :rolleyes:

CrackedButter
Jul 1, 2009, 10:32 AM
Hopefully a better life will come via this update, I'm charging mine nearly twice a day even with dimming the screen and turning 3g off. Or am I expecting too much and should buy the case accessorie with built in battery?

scottuf
Jul 1, 2009, 10:32 AM
Anyone who installed it know if they fixed the bug with AVCRP? Play/Pause works, but FFW/RWD/Skip did not.

its not a bug. apple just didn't incorporate all of the categories. take a look here, page 35 of 93. Category 3 does not seem to be implemented.

4.8.1 Category 1: Player/Recorder
Basic operations of a player or a recorder are defined, regardless of the type of media (tape, disc, solid state, etc.) or the type of contents (audio or video, etc.). If a device supports this category 1, it shall be implemented with the two operation_ids of the PASS THROUGH command, “play” and “stop”.
The device supporting category 1 shall support Metadata Information features defined in Table 3.1.
4.8.2 Category 2: Monitor/Amplifier
The category 2 is to define basic operations of a video monitor or an audio amplifier. If a device supports this category 2, it shall be implemented with the two operation_ids of the PASS THROUGH command, “volume up” and “volume down”.
4.8.3 Category 3: Tuner
The category 3 defines the basic operation of a video tuner or an audio tuner. If a device supports this category 3, it shall be implemented with the two operation_ids of the PASS THROUGH command, “channel up” and “channel down”.

http://www.bluetooth.com/NR/rdonlyres/2740A92C-FFDE-4E52-A7A6-6B14AC9B26A8/6540/AVRCP_SPEC_V14.pdf

MrE617
Jul 1, 2009, 10:38 AM
the ability to delete a single call from the recent call list!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

o yea i want to be able to set whatever ringtone I want for emails or text's I was shocked when I found out I could not

katewes
Jul 1, 2009, 10:38 AM
Oh please, add task-sync with iCal. We shouldn't have to ask for this one. It's a basic feature.

Oh, and whilst we're at it -- a version of iWork for iPhone that syncs with Mac. Once again, this used to be a basic feature of Windows CE and Windows PocketPC.

NStocks
Jul 1, 2009, 10:44 AM
How about an option to disable auto-tilt to landscape when in mail and text message. That is so freaking annoying.

Agree. Also in Safari...

TCM333
Jul 1, 2009, 10:50 AM
what's up with the ability to delete a single call from recent calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

That would be awesome!!!! I hate when my wife looks at my phone to see my girlfriend called.... It always makes for a bad night. So come on apple, help us out

KALLT
Jul 1, 2009, 10:53 AM
Not much there for the 3G. i was hoping for battery %
Me too. I don't think it should be too hard to implement. :(

Smith288
Jul 1, 2009, 10:53 AM
Im experiencing HUGE gains in the area of the battery.

I have been experiencing bad battery drainage with 3.0 to the point that it would be 50% in about 4 hours which is pretty bad.

Currently, im on hour two with no USB connection and its still at 98%.

Thats pretty substantial.

SolRayz
Jul 1, 2009, 10:53 AM
Screw features! Is Apple planning on fixing the poor wifi reception on our 2g's since 3.0?

Smith288
Jul 1, 2009, 10:54 AM
Me too. I don't think it should be too hard to implement. :(

I've heard the % is not very accurate on the 3G and lower. I dunno

supmango
Jul 1, 2009, 10:54 AM
Still no copy and paste... GAHHH!!!!!!!!!! (I'm kidding). Flash would be nice, though. I'm noticing Flash less and less on the web, but it's the sore point in our "real web browsing" pitch. Even if there was a small battery icon somewhere telling you that this webpage may be taxing your battery with its fancy animations, that would still be better than nothing. It would also be nice if the next iPhone had an actual Flash for the camera, too... I thought a cool implementation would be the apple logo on the back doing Flash duty.


I wouldn't mind having flash as an option. However, I definitely want the option to disable flash animations, because I would rather maintain as much battery life as I can get rather than have flash animations on my web pages.

oyebto
Jul 1, 2009, 10:55 AM
How about an option to disable auto-tilt to landscape when in mail and text message. That is so freaking annoying.

i agree. want it to remain in landscape all the time, like in new post in tweetie.

supmango
Jul 1, 2009, 10:55 AM
How about AT&T still dragging their feet . . . shocker.

Nicely put.

PhatBoyG
Jul 1, 2009, 10:57 AM
Yes, I understand a lot of people wanted this and glad they have it, but when I'm laying down trying to write a text message or read email it is such a pain when it switches over to landscape.

Yes, please make the rotating text keyboard an option! Some of us move/lay down our phone while texting and it almost always comes back the way I don't want it.

Shasterball
Jul 1, 2009, 10:59 AM
Why do people always say that? It's stupid.

It's such a nice option when you use your recent call log as a pseudo address book and you received a call from a wrong number, etc.

I think we say it because it's kind of funny. I agree though, it would be nice to delete wrong numbers, etc... without killing the whole log.

supmango
Jul 1, 2009, 10:59 AM
Hi,

Can anyone who has already installed the new iPhone OS 3.1 give us the observation on this?

I notice that after I upgraded to 3.0 (and after prolonged usage), my app no longer quit "normally".. It means that it doesn't fade out to the distance as it usually did in 2.2.1

It does fade and minimize away if I just restarted my iPhone, but after prolonged usage, like after browsing in Safari, replying mails, and opening SMS, it no longer does this...

Anyone experience the same thing? It's kinda annoying.. You know, you're expecting something but it 's not there.. It's like something is missing... :o

Thanks beforehand

I have noticed that on both my 2G and my wife's 3G iphone since OS 1.0.

email68
Jul 1, 2009, 11:01 AM
On the Bluetooth voice dialing. Are we talking about it working with the regular earpieces or some special ADPD stereo headsets only?

supmango
Jul 1, 2009, 11:02 AM
I wish I hadn't lobbied for copy/paste, it's so ugly. I feel sure that apple had it in the original concept and deleted the code and wiped the disk it was on and then buried it in a large hole in the ground along with a few copies of Vista to make sure it rotted quickly. I don't even find it consistent, sometimes I get the choice of what to copy, sometimes everything is selected and that's it and just editing one character means getting the worlds largest phone popup asking me if I want to copy something.

oh yeah auto tilt on mail annoys me too, especially when it tilts and decides I shook the phone and tells me there's nothing to undo the next time I look at it.

Agreed. That's why it took so long to get it. They tried very hard to make it consistent, and with how difficult it is to do I think they did a pretty good job. I don't see anything else better on the mobile device market.

supmango
Jul 1, 2009, 11:04 AM
Oh please, add task-sync with iCal. We shouldn't have to ask for this one. It's a basic feature.

Oh, and whilst we're at it -- a version of iWork for iPhone that syncs with Mac. Once again, this used to be a basic feature of Windows CE and Windows PocketPC.

+1

SkillsToShow
Jul 1, 2009, 11:09 AM
They seriously need a setting to turn off the auto rotation for everything.

ineedamac
Jul 1, 2009, 11:12 AM
Since 3.0 I've noticed mail making a bit of a mess with my Exchange inbox over IMAP - duplicate messages and the such like. Is anybody else getting that?

I have seen some duplicate emails from my Yahoo! account.

bacaramac
Jul 1, 2009, 11:13 AM
I've heard the % is not very accurate on the 3G and lower. I dunno

Ok, the % is a great feature, but also very depressing. By this i mean you really start to understand how fast it drains when you have a true %. I think it would be nice to have only once you get below 10%.

Manic Mouse
Jul 1, 2009, 11:16 AM
Yes, please make the rotating text keyboard an option! Some of us move/lay down our phone while texting and it almost always comes back the way I don't want it.

Yeah, and landscape stuff makes using an iPhone while lying in bed a total pain in the ass. Sure it's great if you only ever use your iPhone standing up or sitting, but I know I like to text in bed on my side.

*LTD*
Jul 1, 2009, 11:16 AM
Oh please, add task-sync with iCal. We shouldn't have to ask for this one. It's a basic feature.

Oh, and whilst we're at it -- a version of iWork for iPhone that syncs with Mac. Once again, this used to be a basic feature of Windows CE and Windows PocketPC.

I agree.

dkhenkin
Jul 1, 2009, 11:17 AM
Im experiencing HUGE gains in the area of the battery.

I have been experiencing bad battery drainage with 3.0 to the point that it would be 50% in about 4 hours which is pretty bad.

Currently, im on hour two with no USB connection and its still at 98%.

Thats pretty substantial.

This has me excited. My battery life is horrible. I even had my phone exchanged once because I thought the battery was screwed up.

Cleverboy
Jul 1, 2009, 11:19 AM
I think the point updates i.e. 3.1 are free. It won't cost us until 4.0Plenty of extra features there. $5 for iPod Touch owners? :rolleyes:I was being sarcastic. ;) Sarcastic nothing. Try 3.1.2 or 3.1.3. Someone should put together a little list of how much an "up-to-date" iPod Touch 1G user has paid to get from iPhone OS 1.1.1 to iPhone OS 3.0. At 2.0 they lowered the price to $10. Previous firmware updates were $20. I tried to Google it, but all I get are a bunch of irate iPod Touch owners complaining in a random, disorganized fashion.

As an iPhone owner, I'm mostly conscious to the iTouch complaining but not the pocketbook issues. Being a developer, I'm also aware of the impact on upgrading. But, at the end of the day, we've never had a situation where a mobile device manufacturer ran the same binary compatible OS/API across multiple markets, and continued the level of feature parity Apple has. It's unprecedented. It's like Sony Erickson phones running the same OS/API as Sony's Walkman line, or Microsoft's Zune's running the same OS/API as its Windows Mobile. I think the closest I see is Nokia's N-Gage platform, but you don't see any customer attention where Media Player users are wondering why their 2 year old device requires them to pay for new OS features that cellphone users get for free.

With a $229 Internet Ready OS-upgradeable device, Apple is providing extremely cheap updates all around. I'm still mad Palm left me behind on 5.0 (my device only supported 4.0). I suppose Apple will get there in its standard 7 year cycle, but to use the latest non-hardware OS features, and keep my hardware? $10 is small change, indeed.

I've totally changed my tune on OS updates:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=329720
"STAY IN PANTHER, AND WE WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!"
What is this evil pact that has been made to usher Mac users into the future? Is there some distinctly loathsome reason no one wants to support Panther any more? I'm left wondering, am I spending $129 just to make my Mac a little slower? I figure by the end of the year, I'll be newly Mac'ed, but until then, am I buying into world of hurt for my G4, just to escape a world of hurt? Move the developers and the customers will follow. It's a great strategy on Apple's part, and almost completely transparent to the users.

The interesting difference, is that there will eventually be a sizeable and growing population of iPod Touch users on out-dated OS versions (especially the unlocked and jailbroken types). The AppStore currently has little provisions for allowing the download of "older" versions of Apps that support non-upgraded devices (like an app originally requiring 2.1, but later requiring 3.0 after an update... the 2.1 compatible version ceases to exist... ANYWHERE).

~ CB

coasterswim
Jul 1, 2009, 11:20 AM
Ok, the % is a great feature, but also very depressing. By this i mean you really start to understand how fast it drains when you have a true %.This is why I have the percentage turned off.

mrzoggsk
Jul 1, 2009, 11:21 AM
Will the 3G ever have the voice control features?

joemama
Jul 1, 2009, 11:22 AM
Hurray for bluetooth voice control. I was very surprised that it didn't have it to start, but it's good to see the feature making its way into my iPhone quickly.

Wait, what? You had to use Apple earphones w/mic to call someone while driving?

Does it work with all bluetooth headsets now?

taeclee99
Jul 1, 2009, 11:22 AM
Can someone who has installed this tell me if the tethering hack still works?

juancho
Jul 1, 2009, 11:28 AM
Will these features apply only for the 3GS model or also for the 3G? I dont get it, I've seen iphone 3g jailbroken with video apps working great. How come the 3G doesnt support video

ipoddin
Jul 1, 2009, 11:28 AM
+1

Also, i really could do with a "Mark all read" option in the Mail app :o

Shoot, I just want a combined inbox view of all my accounts, just like in Mail for the desktop!

joro
Jul 1, 2009, 11:33 AM
Yes, please make the rotating text keyboard an option! Some of us move/lay down our phone while texting and it almost always comes back the way I don't want it.

That would be a nice addition which I think wouldn’t require much more than maybe adding a key to the keyboard to “lock” it in a particular orientation.

dwd3885
Jul 1, 2009, 11:37 AM
Anyone with a jawbone try the voice dialing now? I'm excited to see if it'll work. I don't see why it wouldn't.

FPCat
Jul 1, 2009, 11:40 AM
Will the 3G ever have the voice control features?

I second this! The 3G should be able to do this regardless of the speed improvements in the 3GS. This is the only feature that interests me in the new model, and it's not worth the cost of an upgrade. Come on apple, stop crippling the software to sell more hardware!

tf666
Jul 1, 2009, 11:44 AM
Ok, the % is a great feature, but also very depressing. By this i mean you really start to understand how fast it drains when you have a true %. I think it would be nice to have only once you get below 10%.


or how about the fact that turning that function on drains your battery life even faster rofl.

also who cares about vibration when moving around apps? this is not a function i see worth mentioning honestly.

Mike Teezie
Jul 1, 2009, 11:45 AM
Get your crap together, AT&T.

Jesus, yes. Half of my incoming calls are going straight to voicemail, even though my phone is sitting here, good to go.

Never had that problem with my 2G - that I was aware of at least.

AT&T tells me, "We're working on the towers until November; you'll have some problems until then."

Awesome.

brownieguy19
Jul 1, 2009, 11:48 AM
i agree. want it to remain in landscape all the time, like in new post in tweetie.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!! No landscape in text and mail! You can't even read past texts and type a new one at the same time in landscape. Just an on/off switch Apple.

Bernie-D
Jul 1, 2009, 11:49 AM
I hate the Landscape Keyboard, and when laying in bed it always switches, and is super annoying

Hi all,

Don't know if anyone else has picked up on this, but if you wish to use your iPhone or iPod touch whilst lying on your side, let the keyboard go into landscape mode, then turn the device upside down and it will lock in landscape mode. :cool:

It has worked this way in Safari for quite a long time... I'm not sure when Apple implemented this feature, but I'm pretty sure that it has been this way for several versions of the iPhone OS. This now also works for Notes and Mail too!

quattro247
Jul 1, 2009, 11:53 AM
I would like for a quicker method of toggling between 3G and Edge. Perhaps a shortcut on the home page??

keeganxt
Jul 1, 2009, 11:54 AM
+1

Also, i really could do with a "Mark all read" option in the Mail app :o

definitely, basic email functionality. Also a small envelope icon between the time and the battery percentage when you have new mail and aren't on that page of apps. just missing my blackberry a little. and also an option to have a popup preview come up when an email arrives and the phone is asleep.

vrillusions
Jul 1, 2009, 11:56 AM
I'm most excited about the video being open to developers now. Will we finally see a Qik for iphone in the app store? Probably not or at least not in US since AT&T would complain their network can't handle it. :rolleyes:

keeganxt
Jul 1, 2009, 11:58 AM
i would like facebook to allow video uploads aswell, i don't care for using youtube too much and would rather my closer friends see vids i upload.

fef714
Jul 1, 2009, 11:58 AM
Forgot one:

- All iPhone 3GS models now have the ability to detonate all Palm Pres in a 100 yard radius.

I'm waiting for 3.2. It is said to have a MUCH longer range.

vrillusions
Jul 1, 2009, 11:58 AM
I would like for a quicker method of toggling between 3G and Edge. Perhaps a shortcut on the home page??

+1

I figured someone would have made an app to do this. I remember it was an app on jailbroken phones. Unfortunately I'm in an anti 3G bubble in my house but everyone else around me does 3g fine. I've ended up just keeping it in edge unless I'm out and about without wifi and I'll turn it on.

vrillusions
Jul 1, 2009, 12:03 PM
Hi all,

Don't know if anyone else has picked up on this, but if you wish to use your iPhone or iPod touch whilst lying on your side, let the keyboard go into landscape mode, then turn the device upside down and it will lock in landscape mode. :cool:

It has worked this way in Safari for quite a long time... I'm not sure when Apple implemented this feature, but I'm pretty sure that it has been this way for several versions of the iPhone OS. This now also works for Notes and Mail too!

I'm trying that right now and it's not working. I tried both twisting it to the right, then twist 180 and also twist to right and flip it so I'm looking at the back of the phone. Neither way locks it in any position.

That-Is-Bull
Jul 1, 2009, 12:03 PM
- iPhone vibrates when rearranging Home screen icons.

Anybody know what's up with this? Does the phone keep vibrating instead of wiggling when rearranging icons, or does it just vibrate when it's activated or something?

natebookpro
Jul 1, 2009, 12:04 PM
Looks good! I normally only install the SDK versions of the OS on my iPod Touch, but I'm tempted to stick this on my new GS, to check out the video editing APIs.

Since 3.0 I've noticed mail making a bit of a mess with my Exchange inbox over IMAP - duplicate messages and the such like. Is anybody else getting that?

Same here. I keep moving messages on my phone to my "Archive" folder and they are moving on my iPhone and staying in the inbox in Exchange.

yudilks
Jul 1, 2009, 12:05 PM
I have noticed that on both my 2G and my wife's 3G iphone since OS 1.0.

Really? I didn't experience it with 2.2.1

fef714
Jul 1, 2009, 12:06 PM
Hi all,

Don't know if anyone else has picked up on this, but if you wish to use your iPhone or iPod touch whilst lying on your side, let the keyboard go into landscape mode, then turn the device upside down and it will lock in landscape mode. :cool:

It has worked this way in Safari for quite a long time... I'm not sure when Apple implemented this feature, but I'm pretty sure that it has been this way for several versions of the iPhone OS. This now also works for Notes and Mail too!

I know, it took me about a week to find this feature. :rolleyes:


But Apple should have a vertical only mode, where the only things that go horizontal are videos. I would use that almost every night! It would more or less turn off the accelerometer.

It could be called 'half asleep' mode, where it would play soft and soothing music. Filling the void between sleep and wake modes :rolleyes:

okay, I may have gone a bit overboard there... but the ability to shut off the accelerometer would be nice.

Lightbrazer
Jul 1, 2009, 12:09 PM
My only complaints since day one was the ability to have more options for mail alert (more/longer vibrates, louder alert) and more options for text message alert.

I don't see these discussed very much, so I am curious if anyone else wants these same things?

Oh and the battery life still sucks....just sayin...


Actually I'd prefer better louder/longer CALENDAR alerts. I mean I practically had to buy Remember the milk because I kept missing the daintly little beep that the calander comes up with for appointments, it's so low it's pathetic. I never understood why the calendar lets you set reminders but then plays them back in such a way that you can easily miss them. I wish you could set any sound you wanted like with the alarm clock. I also wish you could set a reminder right on iCal and have it sync over along with the appointment.

hNicolas
Jul 1, 2009, 12:09 PM
Im experiencing HUGE gains in the area of the battery.

I have been experiencing bad battery drainage with 3.0 to the point that it would be 50% in about 4 hours which is pretty bad.

Currently, im on hour two with no USB connection and its still at 98%.

Thats pretty substantial.

Still at 98%? Try restarting your phone. I haven't seen that kind of improvement.

kornyboy
Jul 1, 2009, 12:14 PM
Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

These are all much needed improvements. I'm glad to here that they are refining 3.0 further.

auburnfan24
Jul 1, 2009, 12:16 PM
Will these features apply only for the 3GS model or also for the 3G? I dont get it, I've seen iphone 3g jailbroken with video apps working great. How come the 3G doesnt support video

if you owned a company and came out with a new product, then offered it to everyone who had the old product....would that make any sense? so then why would apple add voice control, and video to older iphones? that would make the 3Gs's only addition be a faster processor. who would want to pay extra money for a little more speed?? the video and VC is well worth it for me, its amazing.

now im sure there are some technical issues that stop the regular 3g from having the video capabilities but i dont know.

retiredtk
Jul 1, 2009, 12:18 PM
i really hope they fix the dreaded "grey icon" app problem. anyone know???

MadDog31
Jul 1, 2009, 12:19 PM
The only feature I want:

- User-defined Reply-To address in Mail, especially for MobileMe accounts.

+1. I'm tired of people being confused on which address to use for me. Ugh.

Tonezorz
Jul 1, 2009, 12:23 PM
That there hasn't been a way to disable the accelerometer has been disappointing to me for a long time.

Now with so many different uses for it, we really need an option under settings, with a separate on/off switch for each function.

Mail on/off
Messages on/off
Safari on/off
3rd party apps on/off

Etc.

Surely
Jul 1, 2009, 12:23 PM
I would like for a quicker method of toggling between 3G and Edge. Perhaps a shortcut on the home page??

And for toggling wifi on/off.
And for toggling Bluetooth on/off.
And for adjusting brightness.

I loved SBSettings when I was jailbroken.

Having that functionality was by far my favorite feature of being jailbroken.

By, hey, at least we FINALLY get vibration when moving Apps around on the Homescreen. I've been wanting that since the original launch day.

segfaultdotorg
Jul 1, 2009, 12:25 PM
I don't plan on buying another iPhone until Apple dumps AT&T. I live in a rural area, and the regional cell providers all have 3G service now. Not AT&T. And they can't even get MMS to work properly? Pathetic.

KindredMAC
Jul 1, 2009, 12:33 PM
Screw features! Is Apple planning on fixing the poor wifi reception on our 2g's since 3.0?

Hmm... me too. I thought I was the only one noticing that.

TroyBoy30
Jul 1, 2009, 12:35 PM
good god, shut up about mms. they said END OF SUMMER!! That means end of summer!

Chivalrousthief
Jul 1, 2009, 12:36 PM
3.1 broke the Pandora app. Is this happening to anyone else?

Smith288
Jul 1, 2009, 12:38 PM
Still at 98%? Try restarting your phone. I haven't seen that kind of improvement.

And I have restarted it. Maybe im lucky? I dunno. I have bluetooth, wifi, 3g and the GPS all on and its still 90%.

byron_hinson
Jul 1, 2009, 12:39 PM
Still at 98%? Try restarting your phone. I haven't seen that kind of improvement.

I was getting around 98% after an hour even with 3.0

BryanLyle
Jul 1, 2009, 12:41 PM
3.1 broke the Pandora app. Is this happening to anyone else?

Pandora does NOT load for me. It just sits there.

ghostface147
Jul 1, 2009, 12:48 PM
My wish list:

1. Ability to snooze calendar events
2. Ability to use badges instead of pop up notifications per app or across the board (I don't like having to acknowledge the notification before I can do anything on the phone)
3. Disable landscape mode across the board or per app (mainly coverflow)
4. Fix the distortion coming from 3GS speakers (I have seen this on many 3GS phones, including floor models at Apple stores)
5. Ability to mark e-mails as either unread or read.
6. Destroy all competing iPhone "killers" via EMP


I recall them saying that now companies can use the dock connector for accessories. It would be nice if someone designs a game controller of sorts. DOOM Resurrection looks great, but the on-rail design shows the problem of having no hard controller of some sort.

arian19
Jul 1, 2009, 12:48 PM
What I want to see is group texting from groups in the contact apps... And also I want the cal have birthday subscription on iPhone with reminders. After that I can't think of anymore features

Bernie-D
Jul 1, 2009, 12:50 PM
I'm trying that right now and it's not working. I tried both twisting it to the right, then twist 180 and also twist to right and flip it so I'm looking at the back of the phone. Neither way locks it in any position.

Definitely works for me. I have both generations of iPod touch... 2G running OS 3.0 and 1G running OS 2.2 - works on both.

Try holding the unit horizontally first of all to select landscape mode, then point the dock connector at the ceiling and the screen should remain in landscape mode, allowing you to view it properly when lying on your side.

I assume that this will work with the iPhone as well, but I only have the iPod touches to try it on at the moment. I'll try it with a 3GS later today!

Bakey
Jul 1, 2009, 12:51 PM
Yes, I understand a lot of people wanted this and glad they have it, but when I'm laying down trying to write a text message or read email it is such a pain when it switches over to landscape.

I wonder if there could be a way of adjusting the sensitivity for the tilt to kick in - after all it would only be like adjusting the calibration (may be 'appen?!)

xIGmanIx
Jul 1, 2009, 12:52 PM
The majority of my proposed updates are for work related functions. To me the iPhone is still lacking in some aspects from taking the next step and replacing my workhorse BB.

i would like to see more customization of the sounds played back for different events IE text, email, calendar, etc. I also would like to see more robust email features
Email
- Sort by sender
- Sort by subject
- Search for
- New email update on icon
- Mark as read/unread
- Different signature for each email or the ability to toggle signature on/off per account.

Calendar
- Dial from event! this is a huge missing element for all us telecommuters

Notes
- Sync already from exchange, enough already.

Phone call
- Turn the vibrate switch into the mute button. One a long conference call when i am multitasking i would rather have the phone lock and be able to toggle mute on/off with the only button on the device than have it switch between vibrate on/off

Bernie-D
Jul 1, 2009, 12:54 PM
I know, it took me about a week to find this feature. :rolleyes:


But Apple should have a vertical only mode, where the only things that go horizontal are videos. I would use that almost every night! It would more or less turn off the accelerometer.

It could be called 'half asleep' mode, where it would play soft and soothing music. Filling the void between sleep and wake modes :rolleyes:

okay, I may have gone a bit overboard there... but the ability to shut off the accelerometer would be nice.

Yeah, it would be good to disable Cover Flow when using the iPod on the go...

cleric
Jul 1, 2009, 12:58 PM
Pandora does NOT load for me. It just sits there.

Same wheel just keeps spinning

hNicolas
Jul 1, 2009, 01:00 PM
And I have restarted it. Maybe im lucky? I dunno. I have bluetooth, wifi, 3g and the GPS all on and its still 90%.

Damn...2 hours use and I'm at 58%. Started at 97%. Are you using a 3GS?

tf666
Jul 1, 2009, 01:02 PM
The majority of my proposed updates are for work related functions. To me the iPhone is still lacking in some aspects from taking the next step and replacing my workhorse BB.

i would like to see more customization of the sounds played back for different events IE text, email, calendar, etc. I also would like to see more robust email features
Email
- Sort by sender
- Sort by subject
- Search for
- New email update on icon
- Mark as read/unread
- Different signature for each email or the ability to toggle signature on/off per account.

Calendar
- Dial from event! this is a huge missing element for all us telecommuters

Notes
- Sync already from exchange, enough already.

Phone call
- Turn the vibrate switch into the mute button. One a long conference call when i am multitasking i would rather have the phone lock and be able to toggle mute on/off with the only button on the device than have it switch between vibrate on/off


You have been able to toggle read/unread since day one..... It's a little blue dot on each email.

coolfactor
Jul 1, 2009, 01:03 PM
Who marks this type of thing negative? Apple/iPhone haters?

The iPhone just keeps getting better and better!

arian19
Jul 1, 2009, 01:06 PM
1. See birthday subscription in cal app
2. Send group text messages from groups in contacts

ghostface147
Jul 1, 2009, 01:08 PM
You have been able to toggle read/unread since day one..... It's a little blue dot on each email.


Yes that blue dot marks a message as unread and changes once you've read it, but how do you change it back? I have a corporate inbox that several people attach to and when e-mails come in and I read it, of course the blue dot disappears. How do other people who have access to that inbox know a new message is in if it's already read? That's why I want the ability to mark it as unread again.

coolfactor
Jul 1, 2009, 01:08 PM
Email
- Search for
- New email update on icon
- Mark as read/unread

Calendar
- Dial from event! this is a huge missing element for all us telecommuters

Notes
- Sync already from exchange, enough already.


- Spotlight searches emails.
- New email update on icon? It has a new message count badge on the icon. What do you want?
- Mark as read/unread... works.

- Dial from event... can you not click a phone number and get the option to dial? I'm surprised this doesn't work.
- sync from Exchange... look here, duh (http://www.apple.com/iphone/how-to/#get-started.about-syncing)

UFOGoldorak
Jul 1, 2009, 01:10 PM
How about they get those freaking ambient light sensors working right.. I've had all 3 iphones and i still get blinded at 2AM..

LagunaSol
Jul 1, 2009, 01:11 PM
And I have restarted it. Maybe im lucky? I dunno. I have bluetooth, wifi, 3g and the GPS all on and its still 90%.

Percentage gauges are worthless. I can use my 2G phone most of the day with no problem, until I get the "20% battery left" message. 10 minutes later I'm getting "10% battery left" and after another 10 minutes I'm dead.

So essentially 20% of the battery lasts 20 minutes and the other 80% lasts...6 hours???

Things that make you go "Hmm..."

hNicolas
Jul 1, 2009, 01:12 PM
I was getting around 98% after an hour even with 3.0

I'm glad that I'm getting this phone replaced (for other issues). My 3G wasn't this bad. I'm expecting the new one any day now. I hope it has a better battery.

coolwater
Jul 1, 2009, 01:13 PM
Nice!

dwd3885
Jul 1, 2009, 01:14 PM
Yes that blue dot marks a message as unread and changes once you've read it, but how do you change it back? I have a corporate inbox that several people attach to and when e-mails come in and I read it, of course the blue dot disappears. How do other people who have access to that inbox know a new message is in if it's already read? That's why I want the ability to mark it as unread again.

all you have to do is open up the email and on the line below the subject line click 'mark as unread' and it will be unread for you :)

you can do this in 3.0 too though.

LagunaSol
Jul 1, 2009, 01:14 PM
Who marks this type of thing negative? Apple/iPhone haters?

They're here, in abundance. I've noticed a significant uptick in Apple-hating trolls in the MacRumors forums in recent months. Methinks the Redmond Astroturfing Machine is spooling up the FTL drives.

dwd3885
Jul 1, 2009, 01:17 PM
They're here, in abundance. I've noticed a significant uptick in Apple-hating trolls in the MacRumors forums in recent months. Methinks the Redmond Astroturfing Machine is spooling up the FTL drives.

Yea, you'll get Apple haters and Apple fanboys here. Just like you would if there was a positive Microsoft story. Like, how is Microsoft coming out with a Zune HD negative?

djdole
Jul 1, 2009, 01:19 PM
"Hurray for bluetooth voice control. I was very surprised that it didn't have it to start, but it's good to see the feature making its way into my iPhone quickly."

Really?
You were surprised Apple rushed to release a product without implementing an industry standard feature? :rolleyes:
This is what? Fool me thrice...four times? ;)
It's become par for the course for Apple. (That's not to say we should find it acceptable.)

ghostface147
Jul 1, 2009, 01:19 PM
all you have to do is open up the email and on the line below the subject line click 'mark as unread' and it will be unread for you :)

you can do this in 3.0 too though.

I guess I never clicked on the details link in any e-mail I open. Thanks.

vrillusions
Jul 1, 2009, 01:19 PM
Try holding the unit horizontally first of all to select landscape mode, then point the dock connector at the ceiling and the screen should remain in landscape mode, allowing you to view it properly when lying on your side.

Ahh, now I get it. I was trying to do a 180˚ turn instead of 90˚. Another way to describe this is the screen will do portrait, landscape left, and landscape right, but not upside down (aside from photos app did that last time I checked). Would still like to lock portrait mode for sms but this is definately better than nothing. Thanks for clarifying

LagunaSol
Jul 1, 2009, 01:20 PM
Like, how is Microsoft coming out with a Zune HD negative?

One, because it's yet another "Me Too" product from Microsoft, and two, because this is MacRumors. Anti-Apple trolls have their own websites to comment on. Like...Engadget.

hNicolas
Jul 1, 2009, 01:22 PM
Percentage gauges are worthless. I can use my 2G phone most of the day with no problem, until I get the "20% battery left" message. 10 minutes later I'm getting "10% battery left" and after another 10 minutes I'm dead.

So essentially 20% of the battery lasts 20 minutes and the other 80% lasts...6 hours???

Things that make you go "Hmm..."

Regardless of what the meter says, my battery can be drained after 4-5 hours of normal use. In 2 weeks I have never gone more than 1 day without having to charge. Going a full day means very light use.

DELLsFan
Jul 1, 2009, 01:24 PM
Hurray for bluetooth voice control. I was very surprised that it didn't have it to start, but it's good to see the feature making its way into my iPhone quickly.

Not if you own the 1st generation or 3G. Voice Control is a feature paired with the 3GS only ... :mad:

I'm not very impressed that it's taken three generations of iPhone and an update to do what any crappy flip phone could do years ago!

Congratulations, 3GS owners! At least YOU are remembered. :rolleyes:

Radiohead27
Jul 1, 2009, 01:28 PM
Does anyone know if 3.1 Fixes the yellow tinted screen that many iPhone 3gs users are complaining about. My phone has a yellowish tint towards the bottom of the screen and was hoping that with this update they address the issue. Anyone?

sseelman
Jul 1, 2009, 01:29 PM
i would like facebook to allow video uploads aswell, i don't care for using youtube too much and would rather my closer friends see vids i upload.

For now, you can upload to Youtube and they can be AUTOMATICALLY be cross-posted to FB. You just have to link the two accounts.

dwd3885
Jul 1, 2009, 01:31 PM
One, because it's yet another "Me Too" product from Microsoft, and two, because this is MacRumors. Anti-Apple trolls have their own websites to comment on. Like...Engadget.

lol. OK.

Shasterball
Jul 1, 2009, 01:39 PM
How about they get those freaking ambient light sensors working right.. I've had all 3 iphones and i still get blinded at 2AM..

You should be in bed then. :D

chr1s60
Jul 1, 2009, 01:41 PM
I am keeping my fingers crossed and hoping that AT&T will unlock MMS when 3.1 goes public. I think AT&T looks more and more pathetic each day MMS is not available on iPhone. If I were a customer with another provider and considering a new provider, just reading some of the posts in these forums would keep me from picking AT&T.

mackmgg
Jul 1, 2009, 01:49 PM
Forgot one:

- All iPhone 3GS models now have the ability to detonate all Palm Pres in a 100 yard radius.

Hmm, that works on my iPod touch 2G too. BTW, to anyone with 3.1, DON'T HIT THE RED BUTTON!

mrr
Jul 1, 2009, 01:51 PM
There are so many features that iPhone users are crying out loud for:

Bluetooth syncing, a bluetooth external keyboard, ability to attach files to any email, ability to turn off landscape mode, multitasking, Flash, List view and categories for the home page, better implementation of multiple mailboxes, auto suggest that only accepts with a click, sync todo lists, ability to customize the lock screen, ability to flag emails, list docs as well as apps, no limit on number of apps, faster backup syncing, removable battery, removable media, front facing camera, print via wifi, wake up alarm, call recording, snooze calender reminders, mark all emails read, scroll bar or up down arrows for those tired of swiping swiping swiping.

And what do we get?

"phone vibrates when rearranging Home screen icons!"

Who thinks this stuff up?

db252
Jul 1, 2009, 01:51 PM
Haven't seen this talked about so it might not be a concern to most but it is driving me crazy that I can't 'shake' to change songs when listening to music and the iPhone is in standby mode. Why would I even want to shake it after going through all the trouble of reopening the iPod control? Now that I had to reopen it to activate shake, I can just push the 'next' arrow since it's staring at me. If this ever comes to light, a sensitivity control would be nice as well. The only way that I can make this work the way I want now is to remove autolock and keep the iPod open at all times but that doesn't do much for battery life. Anyone else?

iemdone
Jul 1, 2009, 01:53 PM
Does OS 3.1 still have the useless landscape call bar, or is my iPhone 3GS on 3.0 at fault?

Smith288
Jul 1, 2009, 01:53 PM
Damn...2 hours use and I'm at 58%. Started at 97%. Are you using a 3GS?

Yes. 3Gs. Prior, i was experiencing atrocious battery drain with the 3.0 on thie very same 3GS

Percentage gauges are worthless. I can use my 2G phone most of the day with no problem, until I get the "20% battery left" message. 10 minutes later I'm getting "10% battery left" and after another 10 minutes I'm dead.

So essentially 20% of the battery lasts 20 minutes and the other 80% lasts...6 hours???

Things that make you go "Hmm..."

Like I said, prior to upgrading, I was not getting very good battery usage at all. 50% by 4-6 hours. Now it was 85-90% by that time.

Macnator
Jul 1, 2009, 01:56 PM
How about an option to disable auto-tilt to landscape when in mail and text message. That is so freaking annoying.

Maybe not just for those apps but for all apps. Just have a general toggle in settings called "Enable auto-tilt" or something. Sometimes when I'm laying down on my side I hate it going to landscape!

hNicolas
Jul 1, 2009, 02:00 PM
Yes. 3Gs. Prior, i was experiencing atrocious battery drain with the 3.0 on thie very same 3GS



Like I said, prior to upgrading, I was not getting very good battery usage at all. 50% by 4-6 hours. Now it was 85-90% by that time.

I'm on 3.1 and at 45% after 3 hours use. Hope my next battery is better.

*mind you this is better than on 3.0

MBHockey
Jul 1, 2009, 02:04 PM
Anyone using a Plantronics Discovery 925 with 3.1 beta? I'm curious if you can activate Voice Control from the headset.

kas23
Jul 1, 2009, 02:08 PM
Yes. 3Gs. Prior, i was experiencing atrocious battery drain with the 3.0 on thie very same 3GS



Like I said, prior to upgrading, I was not getting very good battery usage at all. 50% by 4-6 hours. Now it was 85-90% by that time.

85% by 4-6 hours? Really? After just 4 hours (of constant Internet use), my battery is pretty close to dead (let alone 50%!).

hundleton1
Jul 1, 2009, 02:08 PM
can anyone predict when this will be released ? how long after the developer release was the other update for 2.0?

was wondering as dev teams wont release 3gs jailbreak until after this

xIGmanIx
Jul 1, 2009, 02:12 PM
You have been able to toggle read/unread since day one..... It's a little blue dot on each email.

Ok....why even bother than to comment on just one item? Also, there is no way to select multiple messages and do this. It is weird that people feel the need to comment on other folk's workflow.

- Spotlight searches emails.
- New email update on icon? It has a new message count badge on the icon. What do you want?
- Mark as read/unread... works.

- Dial from event... can you not click a phone number and get the option to dial? I'm surprised this doesn't work.
- sync from Exchange... look here, duh (http://www.apple.com/iphone/how-to/#get-started.about-syncing)

No, you can't dial from the calendar, try it out, you can't do anything in the calendar. And do you have an exchange account? My notes DO NOT SYNC, nor do i think they sync with anyone running exchange to get their emails. Calendar, email and contacts, but no notes.

hNicolas
Jul 1, 2009, 02:15 PM
We need a static refresh button on the bottom toolbar when Safari is being used on the iPhone/iPodTouch.

kmiahali
Jul 1, 2009, 02:15 PM
the voice control over bluetooth sounds pretty cool. Maybe in the future it can be used to launch apps.

xIGmanIx
Jul 1, 2009, 02:19 PM
- Spotlight searches emails.
- New email update on icon? It has a new message count badge on the icon. What do you want?


I don't know about you, but in my work emails, subjects aren't something i want to retype just to search as well as some last names. I would like integration into the application itself so that emails selected i could search by subject, sender etc. I am not talking about searching emails between my buddies and other simple stuff like that. Also, seeing as you can already select multiple emails for moving etc, why not allow you to mark them as new as well?

To me the new email number isn't a really functional metric. When i am out of the office i don't normally keep a running tally of how many emails i haven't opened yet, and being someone who gets about 200-300 emails a day, this doesn't work for me. I would like to see something that indicates new emails since the last time i opened my mail app.

hNicolas
Jul 1, 2009, 02:22 PM
Ok....why even bother than to comment on just one item? Also, there is no way to select multiple messages and do this. It is weird that people feel the need to comment on other folk's workflow.



No, you can't dial from the calendar, try it out, you can't do anything in the calendar. And do you have an exchange account? My notes DO NOT SYNC, nor do i think they sync with anyone running exchange to get their emails. Calendar, email and contacts, but no notes.

If you are talking about iCal, you can dial a number directly from the note field. I just tried it.

alawatsakima
Jul 1, 2009, 02:23 PM
"You didn't really call me, honey. See?"


About the only reason I can think up.

I would sure like to be able to delete the telemarketers and creditor's numbers from my list, so that only people I care about are displayed...

Hatrix76
Jul 1, 2009, 02:23 PM
The only feature I want:

- User-defined Reply-To address in Mail, especially for MobileMe accounts.

I am not sure if I understand your concern correctly, but if you mean different email addresses which your mail get's send from the same account, this is working very fine for me!

I have a mail-server with 3 or 4 domains pointing to the same imap destination, the thing is, in mail.app preferences just enter all your emails you want to send your stuff from, comma-separated, and that's it.

The sync take's care to put them as well on your iphone, you will have a scroller thingy to choose your sending email address from.

in mail.app you can than even assign different signatures to these addresses ....

it's, tough, not really obvios ...

xIGmanIx
Jul 1, 2009, 02:26 PM
If you are talking about iCal, you can dial a number directly from the note field. I just tried it.

Again, doesn't go with my workflow. In my work environment, 95% of dialing information for conference calls is located in the location line. I don't see why this wouldn't be enabled since you are correct that you can do it from the notes. Again, this is more me fitting my needs to what apple has provided instead of apple suiting my needs. I would venture to say that some BB switchers feel the same pain i do.

ATMB
Jul 1, 2009, 02:26 PM
Is Safari snappier™?

Also, if you want landscape rotation toggle, you just have to jailbreak your phone and install SBSettings and its "Auto-rotation inhibitor" plugin... you get the toggle in SBSettings :)

http://img.skitch.com/20090701-xbrua8rtn7abksfniwsb4pmg1b.jpg

SBSettings is a sheet that appears by sliding the finger on the status bar, and it's a wonderful thing.

In the screenshot you can see some toggles I have... I think SBSettings is the only useful reason I jailbreak my phone...

xIGmanIx
Jul 1, 2009, 02:28 PM
http://img.skitch.com/20090701-xbrua8rtn7abksfniwsb4pmg1b.jpg


that is sharp. Something basic and simple like that would be a welcomed Apple included app

Chris Welch
Jul 1, 2009, 02:34 PM
There are so many features that iPhone users are crying out loud for:

Bluetooth syncing, a bluetooth external keyboard, ability to attach files to any email, ability to turn off landscape mode, multitasking, Flash, List view and categories for the home page, better implementation of multiple mailboxes, auto suggest that only accepts with a click, sync todo lists, ability to customize the lock screen, ability to flag emails, list docs as well as apps, no limit on number of apps, faster backup syncing, removable battery, removable media, front facing camera, print via wifi, wake up alarm, call recording, snooze calender reminders, mark all emails read, scroll bar or up down arrows for those tired of swiping swiping swiping.

And what do we get?

"phone vibrates when rearranging Home screen icons!"

Who thinks this stuff up?

Really? You think people are that desperate for all of those features, eh? In case you didn't realize, as of 3.0 there is no limit for number of apps on the phone. You can search in Spotlight for those that exceed the home pages. And being able to turn landscape mode off? Why would you be holding your phone sideways if you don't want landscape mode engaged?

And you're making this update out to be less significant than it is. Bluetooth control over voice functions is pretty huge. Speed increases are always welcome. They're solidifying the 3.0 OS, which is what people should expect from a .1 release.

CaryMacGuy
Jul 1, 2009, 02:35 PM
I expect we will see this update during Apple's fall iPod event. I also think that will be the day that AT&T announces MMS and Tethering.

One question, is the iPhone 3G technically capable of voice control. That is strictly software and doesn't have any extra hardware to drive it, right?

xIGmanIx
Jul 1, 2009, 02:49 PM
I would sure like to be able to delete the telemarketers and creditor's numbers from my list, so that only people I care about are displayed...

exactly. Apparently there is no honest reason to remove unwanted numbers from your call log.

dragossh
Jul 1, 2009, 02:59 PM
I expect we will see this update during Apple's fall iPod event. I also think that will be the day that AT&T announces MMS and Tethering.

One question, is the iPhone 3G technically capable of voice control. That is strictly software and doesn't have any extra hardware to drive it, right?

It's more than capable. But just because you don't have $$$ for the new model, you don't get the feature.

stickyd8
Jul 1, 2009, 03:00 PM
what's up with the ability to delete a single call from recent calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Exactly..........I hate it when I call or get a call from a skank and I can't delete it before my girlfriend sees it. If she sees all my recent calls cleared, she knows somethings up! HA!

omahajim
Jul 1, 2009, 03:14 PM
removed

omahajim
Jul 1, 2009, 03:17 PM
removed

Gauthic
Jul 1, 2009, 03:23 PM
I sure would like the ability to have what the online version of MobileMe has: an automatic list of birthdays of my contacts in Calendar. :)

Exivus
Jul 1, 2009, 03:23 PM
Looks good! I normally only install the SDK versions of the OS on my iPod Touch, but I'm tempted to stick this on my new GS, to check out the video editing APIs.

Since 3.0 I've noticed mail making a bit of a mess with my Exchange inbox over IMAP - duplicate messages and the such like. Is anybody else getting that?

I have the EXACT same thing happening. In fact, I'm fairly sure that even Apple Mail is not removing them from Exchange. The iPhone certainly isn't.

FreeState
Jul 1, 2009, 03:23 PM
The only bug I've found so far on the 3G S is that it take literally 3 minutes for my Alpine Deck to find the iPhone with the Alpine iPod Controller. It worked instantly under 3.0. (Although the beta's of 3.0 all had problems with it as well - but they fixed them for the GM)

Pagemakers
Jul 1, 2009, 03:29 PM
I have 2 3GS's and 2 3G's in my house. The reception on the 3GS's is awful compared to the 3G.

Also, app icons labelling with the wrong app name.


Does 3.01 go anywhere to resolving this?

iphonecrazyful
Jul 1, 2009, 03:43 PM
Can someone post an image of the homescreen? Is it true that the shadow of the Icons in the dock have changed?

iPhoneNYC
Jul 1, 2009, 03:43 PM
It only gets better. I remember when I bought the 1st gen in late June of 07 - an update came after week two or three as well.

Chivalrousthief
Jul 1, 2009, 03:52 PM
Can someone post an image of the homescreen? Is it true that the shadow of the Icons in the dock have changed?

Here ya go.

MacFly123
Jul 1, 2009, 03:57 PM
How about AT&T still dragging their feet . . . shocker.

Ya. I am officially pissed at AT&T! :mad:

But YAY for 3.1, and so fast! :D :apple:

LtCarter47
Jul 1, 2009, 03:59 PM
o yea i want to be able to set whatever ringtone I want for emails or text's

The lack of this feature is really frustrating.

iphonecrazyful
Jul 1, 2009, 04:00 PM
And the shadows haven't changed at all. Wherever i got that from lied! :confused:

LtCarter47
Jul 1, 2009, 04:00 PM
Geez. At least get creative. Create a new Contacts entry for that number and give it an innocuous name, like Pizza Hut, Wal-Mart, *anything*. Problem solved.

:D

Goona
Jul 1, 2009, 04:21 PM
Yeah not being able to delete a call is annoying, especially when you have duplicates from the same person.

Data
Jul 1, 2009, 04:21 PM
Ever since i installed 3.0 and had push as a setting for new information in settings ,contacts,mail,enz, my 2G becomes realy warm and the battery is drained in a couple of hours with out touching it.

This feels to me like there is something going wrong in the software that makes the processor work non stop, therby draining the battery.

I hope this is solved in 3.1 too, i can't use push the way it is now.
It did work with mobile me in 2.2.1 without any problem and i already miss it now.

Also Wifi reception has gone down at least 30% since 3.0 hope that is getting fixed to.

One thing i learned "again" from this is that iPhone is a computer not just a phone so i won't be going with the x.0 version next time around.

Bernie-D
Jul 1, 2009, 04:39 PM
Some people use their phone laying sideways in bed or on the couch. A rotation inhibitor option is needed (for non-jailbroken phones) now more than ever, since more default apps on the phone now support auto rotation depending on orientation.

If you've ever tried to read email or view web pages on the iPhone in 3.0 while laying sideways, and can't because the screen keeps maddeningly rotating unless you hold it at *just* the right angle to read, you'll know what I mean.

See my earlier post!

SoftPretzel
Jul 1, 2009, 04:40 PM
My only complaints since day one was the ability to have more options for mail alert (more/longer vibrates, louder alert) and more options for text message alert.

I don't see these discussed very much, so I am curious if anyone else wants these same things?

Oh and the battery life still sucks....just sayin...


I agree with this. Maybe even have a separate tone to help distinguish repeat alerts from new ones.

I also agree with others wishes to stop auto rotate in mail and sms. I would like for there to be a button that allows the user to manually rotate.

And I also agree with others who have said that they would like alerts that don't overtake the screen focus.

arian19
Jul 1, 2009, 04:46 PM
Does anyone think it's important to have
1. Group texting from contact groups
2. Calendar birthday subscription visible on iPhone

or am I the only one??

bassjunky
Jul 1, 2009, 04:46 PM
Well, I'll throw in my $.02 for my first post here. The 3GS is my first iPhone and I love it.

I have a Pioneer 7900bt stereo in my truck, one of the features is built-in bluetooth. In order for me to enter contacts into the stereo, I have to initiate the transfer of a contact over bluetooth from the phone. My previous HTC Tilt had this functionality (as do many phones), but the iPhone does not. Therefore, I can't see who calls me (unless I pull the phone out of my pocket), I only get the number they're calling from displayed on my head unit.

Not the biggest problem, but a feature I miss. No OBEX/vCard transfer over bluetooth. Bummer.

QCassidy352
Jul 1, 2009, 05:05 PM
And you're making this update out to be less significant than it is. Bluetooth control over voice functions is pretty huge. Speed increases are always welcome. They're solidifying the 3.0 OS, which is what people should expect from a .1 release.

Stop being satisfied and reasonable! If you're not angrily ranting about something you have no place on this site! How can you not realize that a .1 update is the time to implement dozens of new, barely tested features??

:D

JonboyDC
Jul 1, 2009, 05:08 PM
And being able to turn landscape mode off? Why would you be holding your phone sideways if you don't want landscape mode engaged?
The problem comes up when you're laying on your back and holding the phone above you. At that point, it's neither upright nor in landscape, even though you may be looking at it in portrait mode. The accelerometer gets confused and will randomly switch the screen between landscape and portrait.

yocko
Jul 1, 2009, 05:11 PM
i would really like to have inside the little keyboard globe, the language it is using. now i always have to guess whether my last email/text was in spanish in english or in dutch.... just a few letters would simply solve that

RITmusic2k
Jul 1, 2009, 05:19 PM
My wish list:

...

6. Destroy all competing iPhone "killers" via EMP



And they can even call it the iPhone Killer!! Steal their competitors' marketing thunder and destroy thousands of dollars of equipment in one blow!

Anyway. I think this update is a sign of good things to come... I'm anticipating voice-controlled app launching eventually.

My only personal wish list item for the moment is that they continue expanding the video editing functionality to include the stitching of two videos together. With this, along with the nondestructive editing feature in the 3.1 beta, it would become possible to create full in-camera-edited movies.

Krafty
Jul 1, 2009, 05:20 PM
Ever since i installed 3.0 and had push as a setting for new information in settings ,contacts,mail,enz, my 2G becomes realy warm and the battery is drained in a couple of hours with out touching it.

This feels to me like there is something going wrong in the software that makes the processor work non stop, therby draining the battery.

I hope this is solved in 3.1 too, i can't use push the way it is now.
It did work with mobile me in 2.2.1 without any problem and i already miss it now.

Also Wifi reception has gone down at least 30% since 3.0 hope that is getting fixed to.

One thing i learned "again" from this is that iPhone is a computer not just a phone so i won't be going with the x.0 version next time around.
I noticed that Mail is running in the background when mine acts like that. I use SBSettings to kill it. However, Push and Fetch are both off (seeing as Push Notifications never worked on my 2G) and Mail sometimes still decides to run.

Data
Jul 1, 2009, 05:23 PM
I noticed that Mail is running in the background when mine acts like that. I use SBSettings to kill it. However, Push and Fetch are both off (seeing as Push Notifications never worked on my 2G) and Mail sometimes still decides to run.


Can you see that in processes on sbsettings and also kill it from there?
I have sbsettings installed to kill my 2 and 3g data connection ( i don't have a subscription for that yet), but never killed any processes or something like that yet with sbs.

cocky jeremy
Jul 1, 2009, 05:35 PM
I want an option to turn off all landscape keyboards, system wide. I hate, hate, hate landscape!!

Krafty
Jul 1, 2009, 05:36 PM
Can you see that in processes on sbsettings and also kill it from there?
I have sbsettings installed to kill my 2 and 3g data connection ( i don't have a subscription for that yet), but never killed any processes or something like that yet with sbs.

Go to the SBSettings Preferences (labeled "More"), and turn the "Processes" toggle on. After it resprings, when you press the Processes toggle, it should bring up all the programs that are running.

You can also use MemTool which can kill + free up some RAM.

BC2009
Jul 1, 2009, 05:36 PM
Forgot one:

- All iPhone 3GS models now have the ability to detonate all Palm Pres in a 100 yard radius.

I think the best thing that happened to iPhone was the Palm Pre. A solid competitor
can only help the consumer. It is hard though to not react to what the "haters" are
saying on either side (look at me posting this). :D

Seriously though, I firmly believe that without Palm Pre you probably would not be
seeing Turn-By-Turn GPS, Voice Control, Copy/Paste/Undo, and Bluetooth Stereo,
and Push Notifications. Many of these things are in response to Palm Pre having them
OR in response to Palm Pre not having to give iPhone a clear advantage.

Its no different than CPU manufacturers do.... They create a chip that runs at X Ghz,
then they sell it initially at 0.5 X Ghz, then a few months later at 0.7 X Ghz, then
eventually at 1.0 X Ghz. They slowly disseminate improvements so you can increase
revenue. Then if your competitor tries to beat your best product, you turn around
and trump them with the cards you are still holding.

All Palm did was make Apple play their trump cards. Look at performance.....
Palm Pre JavaScript outperformed iPhone 3G on OS 2.0 significantly. In fact
Palm touted the speed at CES in January. However, Apple released OS 3.0
and equaled the Palm Pre JavaScript performance, and then released the
3G-S and trumped the Palm Pre.

Isn't that great for consumers? I hope Palm Pre comes out with WebOS 1.1 and
finds a way to kick butt over iPhone 3G-S -- wouldn't that light a fire under Apple?
I think my iPhone 3G-S is the best phone I've ever owned -- I sure hope somebody
comes out with one that is even better.

BTW: Big decision factors on my choosing iPhone 3G-S over Palm Pre:
- Palm Pre and WebOS still has the feature gaps like Apple did with early iPhone
- Palm Pre multi-tasking is great, but does not include the most basic multi-tasking
I use due to Sprint network : phone call and internet access at the same time

-------------------------
:apple: Black 32GB iPhone 3G-S (much improvement over the Apple IIgs) :apple:

iphones4evry1
Jul 1, 2009, 05:38 PM
I expect we will see this update during Apple's fall iPod event. I also think that will be the day that AT&T announces MMS and Tethering.

One question, is the iPhone 3G technically capable of voice control. That is strictly software and doesn't have any extra hardware to drive it, right?

Since Apple and AT&T have already announced publicly that MMS would be supported "by the end of summer," I'm expecting that this 3.1 update will be released by August 31st, and at the same time that AT&T enables MMS. This 3.1 Beta could go on until August 31st. Heck, we're already in July now. I won't be sitting here every day waiting for the end of summer; I'm going to enjoy my summer.

It's possible that voice control requires more processing power and RAM, and that the regular 3G is very slow when using voice control.

p0intblank
Jul 1, 2009, 05:47 PM
Well that was fast! Can't wait to try this out. :D

Chris Grande
Jul 1, 2009, 05:48 PM
Here ya go.

The shadow on the phone icon is strangely darker than the others.

rasher
Jul 1, 2009, 05:54 PM
this should be a 3.0.1 release

dwsolberg
Jul 1, 2009, 05:56 PM
I have 2 3GS's and 2 3G's in my house. The reception on the 3GS's is awful compared to the 3G.

Also, app icons labelling with the wrong app name.


Does 3.01 go anywhere to resolving this?

I have the same problem with the app names labeling with the wrong name. I have good reception where I live, but I've noticed some problems when I'm out and about.

Shasterball
Jul 1, 2009, 05:58 PM
Does anyone think it's important to have
1. Group texting from contact groups
2. Calendar birthday subscription visible on iPhone

or am I the only one??

I think you are the only one...

QCassidy352
Jul 1, 2009, 06:00 PM
Seriously though, I firmly believe that without Palm Pre you probably would not be
seeing Turn-By-Turn GPS, Voice Control, Copy/Paste/Undo, and Bluetooth Stereo,
and Push Notifications. Many of these things are in response to Palm Pre having them
OR in response to Palm Pre not having to give iPhone a clear advantage.

So if the Pre and iphone share a new feature, the iphone added it to keep up, and if the Pre doesn't have it, the iphone added it to beat the Pre? You're fitting reality to your theory rather than the other way around.

Basically, you have Apple's MO confused with Dell's. Dell sees what others are doing and changes their products to match.

Apple works on their own timelines and with their own design goals. (example: unwillingness to enter the netbook market or offer a mid-range tower). Apple has its own roadmaps and sticks to them. Of course they want to beat the competition, but they see acting, rather than reacting, as the way to do that.

I'm not blindly praising them here - frankly, sometimes I wish they'd worry a little more about matching competitors' specs/features/prices. But that isn't how they work - not with the mac and not with the iphone.

jknight8907
Jul 1, 2009, 06:02 PM
i would really like to have inside the little keyboard globe, the language it is using. now i always have to guess whether my last email/text was in spanish in english or in dutch.... just a few letters would simply solve that

Doesn't the language of the word 'space' on the spacebar change? When I tap the globe it goes from saying 'space' to 'espacio'.

designgeek
Jul 1, 2009, 06:07 PM
How about AT&T still dragging their feet . . . shocker.

"iPhone 3GS will now have the ability to use any competent network in the United States" ;)
screw AT&T.:rolleyes:

I just want my wifi strength back.

Mess
Jul 1, 2009, 06:07 PM
have they fixed bluetooth A2DP so you can actually skip songs with a bluetooth headset? previous / next don't work with 3.0

I too hope they sort this out. It's very annoying. It's like a job half complete.
Please fix it apple.

sladey
Jul 1, 2009, 06:17 PM
what's up with the ability to delete a single call from recent calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

What are you hiding? Drug Deals? Mistress? Do tell...

Goona
Jul 1, 2009, 06:21 PM
So if the Pre and iphone share a new feature, the iphone added it to keep up, and if the Pre doesn't have it, the iphone added it to beat the Pre? You're fitting reality to your theory rather than the other way around.

Basically, you have Apple's MO confused with Dell's. Dell sees what others are doing and changes their products to match.

Apple works on their own timelines and with their own design goals. (example: unwillingness to enter the netbook market or offer a mid-range tower). Apple has its own roadmaps and sticks to them. Of course they want to beat the competition, but they see acting, rather than reacting, as the way to do that.

I'm not blindly praising them here - frankly, sometimes I wish they'd worry a little more about matching competitors' specs/features/prices. But that isn't how they work - not with the mac and not with the iphone.

Why are you wasting your time with these people. They think Apple sit around doing nothing except waiting for the competition to release something before they start working.

darnovo
Jul 1, 2009, 06:23 PM
I think you are the only one...

nope, i think group texting is a necessary feature, and I would be coding my own SMS app for the app store if it was possibly to bypass the current SMS app... but sadly its not :(

vandozza
Jul 1, 2009, 06:26 PM
Desired Cal improvements that should be implemented -

- weekly view (when in landscape?)
- ability to move appointments by the click/hold/wiggle system (like moving app positions) when in daily or weekly view (shouldnt have to manually edit the date time, we should be able to drag/drop the appointments.)
- ability to easily reproduce/repeat/reschedule appointments (ie. repeat this appointment "next week", in "2 weeks" etc)

xIGmanIx
Jul 1, 2009, 06:37 PM
Why are you wasting your time with these people. They think Apple sit around doing nothing except waiting for the competition to release something before they start working.

See copy and paste. Two years nothing, and it just so happens to release on close to the Palm Pre? As great as you make apple out to be, wouldn't you expect them to be able to master copy and paste?

mbsaeger
Jul 1, 2009, 06:42 PM
I can now activate voice control without any interaction with my iPhone 3GS, but solely with my Jawbone 2... :) I am using 3.1

iTouch1987
Jul 1, 2009, 06:42 PM
HOW ABOUT FIXING MY IPOD TOUCH 2G'S COMPATIBILITY WITH MY IHOME IP9.:mad:

Goona
Jul 1, 2009, 06:45 PM
See copy and paste. Two years nothing, and it just so happens to release on close to the Palm Pre? As great as you make apple out to be, wouldn't you expect them to be able to master copy and paste?

What about the G1 that had copy and paste, Android and the other phones that had copy and paste. Maybe Apple decided to release it because of those phones or maybe they did when they got around to releasing it. We all knew Apple was going to release a new operating system for iphone in March and new iphone in June.

If the Palm Pre really pushed Apple they would have figured a way rush multitasking in March which is the Pre's main selling point against the iphone but they did not, which shows Apple moves according to their own pace. I guess in January of 2010 when another company releases another so called iphone killer and when Apple decides to release iphone OS 4.0 and the new iphone in June it will be because of that "iphone killer".

xIGmanIx
Jul 1, 2009, 06:49 PM
What about the G1 that had copy and paste, Android and the other phones that had copy and paste. Maybe Apple decided to release it because of those phones or maybe they did when they got around to releasing it. We all knew Apple was going to release a new operating system for iphone in March and new iphone in June.

If the Palm Pre really pushed Apple they would have figured a way rush multitasking in March which is the Pre's main selling point against the iphone but they did not, which shows Apple moves according to their own pace. I guess in January of 2010 when another company releases another so called iphone killer and when Apple decides to release iphone OS 4.0 and the new iphone in June it will be because of that "iphone killer".

I get it man, you have bought into Apple 100% and i applaud that. To me, i just can't get past that it took 2 years to deliver C&P. I can't think of any reasonable explanation as to why this is absent. And being as we both aren't involved in that process we probably will never know.

jutte64
Jul 1, 2009, 06:54 PM
anyone having problems with the ipod app with the 3.1 installed?

sphoenix
Jul 1, 2009, 06:58 PM
Everything has slowed down dramatically since 3.0, I hope this update clears out a bunch of bugs & errors. Even restarting the phone takes 10-20 seconds longer.

sal
Jul 1, 2009, 06:58 PM
for the last time APPLE. it's not video EDITING! it's video TRIMMING.

you cannot assemble various video clips together, you can only trim the in and out points of the clip.

but my guess is it won't be long before someone creates a true editing app for the iphone. That'd be interesting.

SandynJosh
Jul 1, 2009, 07:00 PM
Forgot one:

- All iPhone 3GS models now have the ability to detonate all Palm Pres in a 100 yard radius.

That bit of fireworks will be automatically enabled after dark on Saturday. However, from the numbers I've seen, it may be pretty much a non-event.
:D

SandynJosh
Jul 1, 2009, 07:14 PM
What about the G1 that had copy and paste, Android and the other phones that had copy and paste. Maybe Apple decided to release it because of those phones or maybe they did when they got around to releasing it. We all knew Apple was going to release a new operating system for iphone in March and new iphone in June.

If the Palm Pre really pushed Apple they would have figured a way rush multitasking in March which is the Pre's main selling point against the iphone but they did not, which shows Apple moves according to their own pace. I guess in January of 2010 when another company releases another so called iphone killer and when Apple decides to release iphone OS 4.0 and the new iphone in June it will be because of that "iphone killer".

Apple announced from the very beginning that C&P was being developed and would become available as soon as they found a way to do it elegantly. So, the only pressure to "git 'er done" came from within Apple. C&P was on the earliest list of features needed for the "enterprise market", right up there with push notification.

There are often tradeoffs in the design process and different companies will weigh them differently. It appears that Apple is placing a high priority on battery life at the expense of adding features. This priority adds to the value of the iPhone as a phone, something that Palm doesn't value as highly.

If anything, Palm knew Apple was planning on adding C&P from Apple's public announcement of such and added C&P to their needed list of features; not the other way around.

AKlrt
Jul 1, 2009, 07:16 PM
Anyone heard anything about a GPS fix or is it just my phone? GPS on my 3G with 2.2.1 worked great. Whether it is the 3.0 software or the 3GS phone, my GPS is now all over the map. If they don't admit to a software problem with a fix in sight then I will need to return my phone within the 30 day window and see if another phone solves the problem.

PhightinPhils26
Jul 1, 2009, 07:17 PM
Interestingly enough, I applied the carrier file "hack" when I got my 3GS to do MMS (for like a day) and for tethering... As we know MMS isn't working, however with 3.1... tethering is.

bedifferent
Jul 1, 2009, 07:25 PM
I get it man, you have bought into Apple 100% and i applaud that. To me, i just can't get past that it took 2 years to deliver C&P. I can't think of any reasonable explanation as to why this is absent. And being as we both aren't involved in that process we probably will never know.

I'm certain Apple had copy/cut/paste set long ago. Any time a company plans for a new product, a marketing "road map" is set, normally for 3-5 years. As much as consumers may not like this fact, but certain technological features may be "held back" in order to keep consumer interest at a steady incline. Apple, Inc. certainly knew that copy/cut/paste would be a necessary feature. As such, Apple most likely held that feature back on their "road map" in order to market it for future buyers as a "new feature". Two years later, Apple releases iPhone OS 3.0 with "new features" most likely having been developed from day one. It's business, and sometimes in business the consumer doesn't always get what they want, when they want it.

killmoms
Jul 1, 2009, 07:32 PM
but my guess is it won't be long before someone creates a true editing app for the iphone. That'd be interesting.
Especially now that there are "new APIs [that] allow developers of third-party application to access and edit videos."

It'd be neat to see something that allowed for basic NLE and simple text cards. I think we'd start seeing mobile vLogs made without the need for a computer. Whether that's actually GOOD or not remains to be seen, but it is at least interesting.

liveccam
Jul 1, 2009, 07:42 PM
Has Apple fixed the wifi problems it injected with 3.0? Can I expect performance at least equivalent to 2.2.1 with 3.1?

mrr
Jul 1, 2009, 07:51 PM
Apple had cut & paste down in 1984:

http://www.digibarn.com/collections/ads/apple-mac/brochure4b.jpg

The original Palm Pilot had cut & paste down in 1996!

SandynJosh
Jul 1, 2009, 07:53 PM
Seriously though, I firmly believe that without Palm Pre you probably would not be
seeing Turn-By-Turn GPS, Voice Control, Copy/Paste/Undo, and Bluetooth Stereo, and Push Notifications. Many of these things are in response to Palm Pre having them OR in response to Palm Pre not having to give iPhone a clear advantage.

Total ass gas! Apple's 3.0 feature set was well firmed up by the time the Pre was shown. Apple had even announced that some of the features were on their short list back at the announcement of 2.0. You're trying to rewrite history with way too little information.


Its no different than CPU manufacturers do.... They create a chip that runs at X Ghz,
then they sell it initially at 0.5 X Ghz, then a few months later at 0.7 X Ghz, then
eventually at 1.0 X Ghz. They slowly disseminate improvements so you can increase
revenue. Then if your competitor tries to beat your best product, you turn around
and trump them with the cards you are still holding.


More lack of information allowing you to jump to false conclusions. As chip makers improve their yield they can churn out larger percentages of higher performance chips and offer them for sale.

I won't even comment on the rest of your daydream musings.

ralph401
Jul 1, 2009, 08:01 PM
On the Bluetooth voice dialing. Are we talking about it working with the regular earpieces or some special ADPD stereo headsets only?

It works with the standard wired headset.

ricosuave
Jul 1, 2009, 08:07 PM
Trimming videos and having an option to "Save As.." is a nice feature. I did not want to trim the video previously in order not to delete the original.

Frixo Cool
Jul 1, 2009, 08:18 PM
Well, my only wish for 3.1 is to fix wi-fi problems that range from bad reception to dead iPhones.

Also, I am so happy to see that so many MacRumors users have no problem with this... maybe only some iPhone series are affected...

Check this:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2044754&start=0&tstart=0

At first I thought that I am just very unlucky that my brand new iPhone replacement (I had mic problems with the first one) is having wi-fi problems, but then I found out at Apple forum that this problem is much wider...

It's a strange mix of software and hardware problems triggered with the 3.0 update. Apple replaces affected iPhones and recommends not to upgrade to 3.0 as "it may happen again". So, I hope 3.1 will fix this as I am again without my beloved iPhone. :(

thirtyeyes
Jul 1, 2009, 08:22 PM
So, those of you defending Apple and claiming they do not react to market forces. C&P was withheld for 2 years because...?

The bottom line here is that not having C&P for two years is indefensible. It was a ridiculous omission that can only be explained by incompetence or avarice.

I can't wait to find out how I'll get screwed to enable tethering.

I love Apple, been using their products since the Apple II Plus, but I think we can all agree they are not perfect.

*LTD*
Jul 1, 2009, 08:24 PM
Seriously though, I firmly believe that without Palm Pre you probably would not be
seeing Turn-By-Turn GPS, Voice Control, Copy/Paste/Undo, and Bluetooth Stereo,
and Push Notifications. Many of these things are in response to Palm Pre having them
OR in response to Palm Pre not having to give iPhone a clear advantage.

And without the iPhone, you wouldn't be seeing any Palm Pre. Or any other Touch-based device on the market worth spitting on for another few years.

The Pre was never a real threat. Let's not kid ourselves.

ebendigo
Jul 1, 2009, 08:25 PM
Same wheel just keeps spinning

Yeah, It doesn't work for me either.

alexmadison
Jul 1, 2009, 08:26 PM
And without the iPhone, you wouldn't be seeing any Palm Pre. Or any other Touch-based device on the market worth spitting on for another few years.

The Pre was never a real threat. Let's not kid ourselves.

The Pre's nice, but is playing catch-up

mrr
Jul 1, 2009, 08:30 PM
I think that the reason that Cut & Paste was missing from the iphone, is that Apple designed the the iPhone to be an EasyPhone and did not really anticipate that the public REALLY wanted an advanced SmartPhone and internet device that would be more like an ultra portable computer.

Look at the software, easy to use but not full featured.

Apple chose to do away with drop down menus that are a staple of almost all computers and smart phones, and dumbed the software down just to a few features. It makes it easy for developers to create fart-ware but more complex software has been really lacking.

When I moved from my Palm Treo I really missed all of the more professional features that allowed me to easily move files back and forth to my desktop and work on them with my external bluetooth keyboard on the go.

While the iPHone has many more advanced aesthetic interface elements, it is still lacking in the features that made the Palm Treo a real work horse.

I am really looking forward to iPhone 4.0...

ralph401
Jul 1, 2009, 08:47 PM
I have 3 sets of contacts in my groups: "On My Iphone", "MobileMe", "Exchange"
then there is "All Contacts". When I select "All Contacts", I get duplicate display of each contact and some showing double first name; for example a contact named "John" will display: "John" and a second display will show "John John" right below it. I sent this info to Apple, they say that they are aware of it. I was hoping they fix it with 3.1 but no such luck, at least not with the beta.

xIGmanIx
Jul 1, 2009, 08:52 PM
So, those of you defending Apple and claiming they do not react to market forces. C&P was withheld for 2 years because...?

The bottom line here is that not having C&P for two years is indefensible. It was a ridiculous omission that can only be explained by incompetence or avarice.

I can't wait to find out how I'll get screwed to enable tethering.

I love Apple, been using their products since the Apple II Plus, but I think we can all agree they are not perfect.

exactly, to me there is no justifiable reason to withhold copy and paste and those who are trying to come up with reasons are just grasping at straws. Thats not to say that apple didn't get a lot of things right, its just this is an obvious black eye any way you slice it.

twistedfish
Jul 1, 2009, 08:59 PM
It would be great if there were an app or feature that you could set user profiles to turn on and off various features, i.e. profile home would turn on wifi, turn off 3G, turn off GPS. Profile 2 you could set to turn off wifi, turn on 3G turn on GPS, ect. with just one touch.

And please improve the ringtone volume. It's so soft that if i'm not in the same room as my phone I can't hear it.

SandynJosh
Jul 1, 2009, 09:00 PM
Who marks this type of thing negative? Apple/iPhone haters?

The iPhone just keeps getting better and better!

They've been able to establish that the negative marks generally come from a Redmond WA area. :D

mikes63737
Jul 1, 2009, 09:13 PM
Ok, the % is a great feature, but also very depressing. By this i mean you really start to understand how fast it drains when you have a true %. I think it would be nice to have only once you get below 10%.

It seems to me that the % indicator actually drains the battery faster. I tried one day with it on and the next with it off, and my battery life has been noticeably worse with it on.

ursole15mine
Jul 1, 2009, 09:30 PM
is anyone else having the problem of upgrading to 3.1 on the 3gs? i did it twice and it bricked my phone.

Data
Jul 1, 2009, 09:44 PM
It would be great if there were an app or feature that you could set user profiles to turn on and off various features, i.e. profile home would turn on wifi, turn off 3G, turn off GPS. Profile 2 you could set to turn off wifi, turn on 3G turn on GPS, ect. with just one touch.

And please improve the ringtone volume. It's so soft that if i'm not in the same room as my phone I can't hear it.

I totaly agree on both counts with you, wish i could develop it i'm sure there's a market for it.

MartiNZ
Jul 1, 2009, 09:48 PM
High on my list would be the ability to completely turn OFF:
• copy/paste interface - never wanted it, now it just gets in the way;
• landscape keyboard / landscape rotation in general for most apps - never wanted it, now it just annoys me no end;
• spotlight page - I can see it could be useful, but it gets in the way of my swiping back to the first screen where I leave it on locking, and it's laggy to load.

That, and integrate voice memos into notes to save a space; and compass into maps for those with 3GSs for that matter. Then we'll be really getting somewhere (or in many cases getting back to where we were :)).

They allowed us to turn off the extra SMS notifications in 3.0, so maybe these will have to wait until 4.0, but sooner would be nice.

Frixo Cool
Jul 1, 2009, 10:00 PM
Who marks this type of thing negative? Apple/iPhone haters?

The iPhone just keeps getting better and better!

Me! Beacuse I am a true iPhone enthusiast and 3.0 is for me the worst update ever - and I mean in the last 20 years I am using Apple products... I am not joking! It's not bad by options and new features, but by lousy QA and wi-fi and other problems. A number of iPhones has been rendered useless by 3.0 update (almost 7% in some pools on Mac forums) and I am among those unlucky users. It was almost a perfect device with 2.2.1 and now I must wait for my third iPhone... (in Europe you don't get a new one at Genius Bar, you have to wait for up to 4 weeks for a replacement).

So, I am not excited by any new iPhone OS release anymore, I just want that my iPhone work! So Apple - no fancy features, just make it operational and reliable please!

Zymosis
Jul 1, 2009, 10:14 PM
Done? Press the "find me" button 2x.

High on my list would be the ability to completely turn OFF:
• copy/paste interface - never wanted it, now it just gets in the way;
• landscape keyboard / landscape rotation in general for most apps - never wanted it, now it just annoys me no end;
• spotlight page - I can see it could be useful, but it gets in the way of my swiping back to the first screen where I leave it on locking, and it's laggy to load.

That, and integrate voice memos into notes to save a space; and compass into maps for those with 3GSs for that matter. Then we'll be really getting somewhere (or in many cases getting back to where we were :)).

They allowed us to turn off the extra SMS notifications in 3.0, so maybe these will have to wait until 4.0, but sooner would be nice.

jamespa66
Jul 1, 2009, 10:50 PM
It seems to me that the % indicator actually drains the battery faster. I tried one day with it on and the next with it off, and my battery life has been noticeably worse with it on.

The % indicator has no effect on the battery life. I have used it both ways timed and there is no difference at all in the drain. I think the percentage just makes you more aware of the drainage than without it on.

Matthew Yohe
Jul 1, 2009, 11:19 PM
• spotlight page - I can see it could be useful, but it gets in the way of my swiping back to the first screen where I leave it on locking, and it's laggy to load.

Press the home button to go back to the first page.

That, and integrate voice memos into notes to save a space; and compass into maps for those with 3GSs for that matter.

Are you running out of spaces or something?

rickdollar
Jul 1, 2009, 11:56 PM
I have the same problem with the app names labeling with the wrong name. I have good reception where I live, but I've noticed some problems when I'm out and about.
Apps with incorrect icons and LOUSY reception on 3GS compared to my 3G in the identical location is a problem for me as well. And what is it with the dropped calls. SHEESH! I always thought it was my 3G. I thought with the new 3GS the problem would be solved. It's just as bad, if not worse. You get tired of apologizing for your phone. You become the guy with the phone that stops working all the time.
As far as a phone goes, it is the worst performing phone I've ever had. But with all the other stuff it does, I find it impossible to give up.
There has to be some technical problem with AT&T and the iPhone. It can't be just the phone.
I'm done complaining now. Any of the features discussed in this thread would be great. Let's hope they happen soon.

MartiNZ
Jul 2, 2009, 12:09 AM
Press the home button to go back to the first page.



Are you running out of spaces or something?

Far from it, but I'm sure some people are, and I just find the division unnecessary - IMO it is mainly done so that there is a visible difference between 2.2.1 and 3.0 and between the 3G and 3GS, or at least so people see up front what has been added. That one is lower on my list though anyway :).

Oh and I swipe back out of habit, might have to try getting into pressing home instead.

xIGmanIx
Jul 2, 2009, 12:10 AM
And what is it with the dropped calls. SHEESH! I always thought it was my 3G. I thought with the new 3GS the problem would be solved. It's just as bad, if not worse.

I think the iPhone does have a higher rate than most phones, but i also get them on my BB. Thank AT&T, the worlds largest network and the most dropped calls

iMaggot
Jul 2, 2009, 12:21 AM
Don't have a 3Gs, but i cant wait :cool:

fraggot
Jul 2, 2009, 12:59 AM
Is this a new feature in this update? I've never noticed it before, I have one of those in my car, and when I plug it in that pops up. It's giving fairly detailed information about the accessory now, which I didn't think about.

http://media.jessehardesty.com/iphone/3.1%20Beta/IMG_0012.png

http://media.jessehardesty.com/iphone/3.1%20Beta/IMG_0011.png

zoogme
Jul 2, 2009, 07:19 AM
I think you are correct. see image.

Keyhole
Jul 2, 2009, 09:20 AM
Can anyone verify if 3.1 addresses some bluetooth compatibility issues with wireless headphones such as the Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800?

Jamie 360
Jul 2, 2009, 11:49 AM
Could a software upgrade mean the Vibe Duo buttons might work :confused:

AKlrt
Jul 2, 2009, 01:50 PM
I guess no one else has experienced any problem with the GPS function, associated either with the 3GS or with 3.0?

zotes24
Jul 2, 2009, 10:26 PM
when can we expect the 3.1 to be released to the public?

atlatnesiti
Jul 3, 2009, 02:44 PM
an incorrect icon app bug in version 3 - is it fixed in 3.1..?!