Could G5 notebooks be closer then we think?

[mccaffreye]

My school is requiring all architecture majors to rent an Apple laptop from them each year.

They already ordered at least a thousand G5 laptops and expect them by this September. This definately seems out of the question.

Obviously Apple has been working on them for some time now though. Is there any chance that Jobs just wants to get people who are holding out to buy whats left of the G4 ones, and the G5 ones getting out just after years end (January)?

[zulgand04]

My school is requiring all architecture majors to rent an Apple laptop from them each year.

They already ordered at least a thousand G5 laptops and expect them by this September. This definately seems out of the question.

Obviously Apple has been working on them for some time now though. Is there any chance that Jobs just wants to get people who are holding out to buy whats left of the G4 ones, and the G5 ones getting out just after years end (January)?

just curious but, where did u hear "G5" u sure it wasnt a mistake and it was ment "G4"?

-Neal

[Sun Baked]

My school is requiring all architecture majors to rent an Apple laptop from them each year.

They already ordered at least a thousand G5 laptops and expect them by this September. This definately seems out of the question.

Obviously Apple has been working on them for some time now though. Is there any chance that Jobs just wants to get people who are holding out to buy whats left of the G4 ones, and the G5 ones getting out just after years end (January)?If you "know" they already ordered G5s, then you know a lot more than most of the other people -- considering that would put you on the inside on a non-disclosure agreement.

Though Apple is real good at selling today's machine on a large PO, and delivering the current machine available at the time of delivery.

[johnbro23]

My school is requiring all architecture majors to rent an Apple laptop from them each year.

I want to be an architect. I'll be a junior in high school next year, so I'm already thinking about what kind of laptop I'm getting for college. Do you think a Mac will be fine? I'd hate to be forced to go back to using windows during college. So do Macs support all the programs necessary to study architecture?

Sorry, I'm a little off topic, but its not everyday I get to talk to someone in architecture that uses Macs.

[mccaffreye]

Sun Baked:
Actually, the school sent out an e-mail to all architecture majors. They can't just charge them an extra couple thousand dollars when they arrive on campus.

zulgand04:
I read the e-mail they got. I also heard some administrators talking about them. It was definately a G5.

johnbro23:
I am not an architecture student, sorry. Three of my roomates were; so I talked to them about this as well as read the mail they got about it.

If Apple says not this year, I believe them. It seems that they were planning to have them ready for spetember at least a 6 months back. Its probably a heat issue, so I wonder if "not this year" could mean January.

[zulgand04]

Thats very interesting indeed. That would be so cool, if it is true and when exactly apples definition of a year is lol. Like an article i read a few weeks back talking bout the "year of the laptop" and an apple employe (don't remeber who) said yea we were useing a metric year. well anyways i hope ur info is true, im looking for a new laptop for college and if the G5 is out then thats my baby, if not a crappy dell lol.

-Neal

[johnnowak]

Bring 'em on.

[goodwill]

a G5 notebook! Thats classic! I know you meant PB, but it was still humorous enough. It will be a divine day the g5 PB come out however.

I was curious however, my girlfriend is an Architecture Graduate student at Rice University and everything she works with is Auto CAD. Everything, I mean everything she does from rendering to 3D models to sections or sustainability is used with Auto CAD. I understand Vector Works does a nice job as the Apple version of Auto CAD and some people have had nice things to say about Architosh, but unfortunately, I know that with everything that has been demanded of her and her peers by the faculty and the institutions she has and is attending stray away from Apple Powerbooks and Power Macs because of the Auto CAD incompatibility. They tend to leave that for the Graphic Design students and the developers since Apple is more balanced in that spectrum than with specifically Architecture. Considering 90% of Firms, University's and people in general recommend and expect Auto CAD, is having a Powerbook wise for Architecture students? I realize, that the bump in 128mb graphics card recently does extrememly help with rendering, but beyond that, isn't Apple more graphic oriented and still a step behind in being a powerful force in the Architecture realm due to the spacious incompatibilities?

[legion]

That's pretty funny! First, an architectural school knowing about G5 PBs before everyone else and then second that this supposed architectural school isn't using AutoCAD (which isn't available on Macs.) What kind of podunk school is this? Please...

There isn't a G5 powerbook coming anytime soon,

A school wouldn't find out information first, and

This must be the lousiest architectural school and I hope the graduates know how to flip burgers because when they leave, no one will hire someone who can't use AutoCAD.

[DMann]

With the 90nm 970 FX, a 1.5 Ghz chip
could feasibly fit into a notebook without
overheating............ not likely until
the Power5 is scaled down further
to 45nm when the 980 chip is developed
though..............

[kirk26]

That's pretty funny! First, an architectural school knowing about G5 PBs before everyone else and then second that this supposed architectural school isn't using AutoCAD (which isn't available on Macs.) What kind of podunk school is this? Please...

There isn't a G5 powerbook coming anytime soon,

A school wouldn't find out information first, and

This must be the lousiest architectural school and I hope the graduates know how to flip burgers because when they leave, no one will hire someone who can't use AutoCAD.

LOL! Winner....!!!! ....for worst comment of the day. Thanks for playing.

[mccaffreye]

That's pretty funny! First, an architectural school knowing about G5 PBs before everyone else and then second that this supposed architectural school isn't using AutoCAD (which isn't available on Macs.) What kind of podunk school is this? Please...

There isn't a G5 powerbook coming anytime soon,

A school wouldn't find out information first, and

This must be the lousiest architectural school and I hope the graduates know how to flip burgers because when they leave, no one will hire someone who can't use AutoCAD.

Well they are forcing tem to get Apples: http://www.wit.edu/laptop/ (The mention of a G4 is what they suggested for last year - if a student got one they are not forced to get a new one - not what they were planning on getting for next year, although they will likely end up with those ones)

The school does teach AutoCAD. Do you actually think each student went and bought AutoCAD and installed it on their personal machine? They didn't; they used the lab computers, which they will still do. I guess you have no argument now.

Please quit trying to troll and hijack the thread. The topic is: My school WAS expecting G5 laptops, which means Apple is at least working on them, do you think they will be out early next year? Post about that or create your own thread, please. Weather you think my school was lying to the whole student body is not the topic, so make your own thread if you feel the need to post about that.

If a mod can remove the irrelevant posts I would be gracious.

[MacNut]

Of course Apple is working on G5 Powerbooks but they are probably working on a lot of things right now that nobody knows about. Don't hold your breath for a G5PB for a while because it won't happen until at least late spring of next year and even that may be generous. It will come out when its ready but don't get your hopes up because I doubt that it is even close. They are having a hard enough time reaching 3 ghz so a G5PB is the farthest thing on their minds right now.

[Bigheadache]

What architecture software do they use on Macs????

My cousin and her fiance are both architects, I've never seen macs in any of their workplaces, and they have both worked 3-4 large firms each before.

[crees!]

You should know the definition of vaporware is something announced but not actually in development. Apple has not given a date therefore it can't be vaporware. Although, it takes a very special kind of person to think Apple is not developing a G5 laptop.

Whatever you knew what I meant. The combination of Apple stating in the past few days that a G5 laptop won't happen anytime soon and your school's "G5 order" makes a sensible person question your school.



Please re-read before another lousy attempt at trolling. I asked if anyone thinks that there is a possibility of a G5 laptop early next year, I never said that there is one in development; so I don't know what I am trying to "trick" you into believing. As I have said in all my posts; I definately think that my school will be stuck with G4s.

I posted this thread so that I could see when people think that they may come out; because I am looking for a Powerbook and want to see if I should wait 6 months or so.

If Apple ever releases a G5 Powerbook I expect you to come back here and apologize.

I don't troll and there will be no apologies because I never said such a thing about what Apple is or isn't developing, so stop the spin.



They already ordered at least a thousand G5 laptops and expect them by this September.

Is there any chance that Jobs just wants to get people who are holding out to buy whats left of the G4 ones, and the G5 ones getting out just after years end (January)?

Well it better be September or your school is going to be disappointed when they crack open those boxes. I can tell you my bet is on January, and that's the earliest.\n|n/

[crees!]

So which is it... was?

The topic is: My school WAS expecting G5 laptops...

or is?



They already ordered at least a thousand G5 laptops and expect them by this September.

Or how about comedy?


Please quit trying to troll and hijack the thread.

[Belly-laughs]

I want to be an architect. I'll be a junior in high school next year, so I'm already thinking about what kind of laptop I'm getting for college. Do you think a Mac will be fine? I'd hate to be forced to go back to using windows during college. So do Macs support all the programs necessary to study architecture?

All architects I know are on Macs.

[legion]

All architects I know are on Macs.
Where??? No major architectural firm uses Macs.. why, because AutoCAD doesn't run on Macs. Plain and simple.

I'm sorry, as pro-Apple as you can be, the architectural business is not centered on Macs as long as AutoCAD doesn't run on it. NYC, LA, Chicago, Tokyo, London... doesn't matter. AutoCAD is the equivalent of Photoshop to the design community.. sure there are some people who don't use it, but they are a really tiny minority.

[legion]

LOL! Winner....!!!! ....for worst comment of the day. Thanks for playing.

Why, because I'm telling the truth and you don't like it? Live in the real world.

[Coolvirus007]

So, what autoCAD programs are available on macs just out interest?

and OBVIOUSLY, Apple is working on the G5 powerbook. PC laptops with AMD processors are already 64 bit.

[legion]

So, what autoCAD programs are available on macs just out interest?

None. AutoDesk (the parent company of AutoCAD) only supports one Mac application through their subsidiary Discreet (and that's Discreet Combustion.)

There's Solidworks, VectorWorks, Arcintosh, etc.. but no major architect firm uses them.

[unregbaron]

plus it's selling powerbooks at 45% discount

http://promo.euro.apple.com/promo/refurb/uk/

[BrianKonarsMac]

ya steve jobs called me earlier this morning just to let me know my G5 Power Book is cooking a grilled cheese as we speak, and as soon as it's done, he's going to pack it up and ship it. along with the grilled cheese of course. talk about customer service, steve's such a nice guy.

unless you want a Power Book labeled CAUTION CAUSES 3RD DEGREE BURNS WHEN IN CONTACT WITH SKIN. DO NOT TOUCH. you're not going to have a G5 PB in the next year...or should i say twelve months.

[BrianKonarsMac]

plus it's selling powerbooks at 45% discount

http://promo.euro.apple.com/promo/refurb/uk/ those are rev. B PB's. nothing special there. although that's weird they're only open three days.

[mccaffreye]

Whatever you knew what I meant. The combination of Apple stating in the past few days that a G5 laptop won't happen anytime soon and your school's "G5 order" makes a sensible person question your school.

Well it better be September or your school is going to be disappointed when they crack open those boxes. I can tell you my bet is on January, and that's the earliest. I swear some people just need to chill the f.uck out. \n|n/

They ordered them back in January, mabye even earlier. They also sent the e-mail to students way before the announcment of no G5s this year (I have been out on vacation for almost 2 months).

My whole question was if anyone thinks they would be out in January; you could have said "yes" instead of trolling.

[goodwill]

My school is requiring all architecture majors to rent an Apple laptop from them each year.

Yes- However you did state the above quote. I think all of us familiar with Architecture and whats expected from a hardware and software wise intellect have been stating the obvious. Just because you ask a question does not mean that is all you will expect to hear from anyone. Unless you are a communist and marxist of course :)

If you wanted the question of the g5 answered, why make a post about it when its answered regularly daily consistently and repeatedly. Yes its unfortunate your school is not getting G5 powerbooks. Yes, its unfortunate none of us are not getting g5 powerbooks in september. boo hoo.

As far as Auto Cad being a regular for Mac users, thats pretty naive. I know one out of about 427 architectural students who use a Mac for it. Why only one you ask, BECAUSE AUTO CAD IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH MACS. It does not work, gel, run, operate, function, whatever the hell you want to say, it doesnt work with Apple. Do not let me walk into a building built by Auto Cad on a Mac because then I know you are as oblivious as the posts stating Apple is great for ARCHITECTURE!

[Sun Baked]

They ordered them back in January, mabye even earlier. They also sent the e-mail to students way before the announcment of no G5s this year (I have been out on vacation for almost 2 months).

My whole question was if anyone thinks they would be out in January; you could have said "yes" instead of trolling.They ordered G5 Notebooks in January, for delivery in September. http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6694&stc=1

Apple is slow at delivery, but not that slow.

That is probably when the school approved the Purchase Order, or put them into the budget.

[legion]

@mccaffreye

You really need to look up what the word "trolling" means in modern context. Also, while you're at it, learn how to post a question to a forum.

I guess this only proves "WIT" is a podunk school. When you get back, inform them that just adding "Institute of Technology" to their name doesn't make them Caltech or MIT (despite being in Boston.) Maybe they figure if their students say it really fast, people will think they said MIT.

[wide]

e700 "G5"?

[mccaffreye]

@mccaffreye

You really need to look up what the word "trolling" means in modern context. Also, while you're at it, learn how to post a question to a forum.

I guess this only proves "WIT" is a podunk school. When you get back, inform them that just adding "Institute of Technology" to their name doesn't make them Caltech or MIT (despite being in Boston.) Maybe they figure if their students say it really fast, people will think they said MIT.

You really need to learn what a troll is; since the whole second paragraph you said is nothing but trolling.


To others, I said I am not an Architecture student; so I don't care if they are a good choice for the students or not. That said, AutoCAD is very very expensive, and students that took the course previously DID NOT BUY THE PROGRAM TO USE ON THEIR PERSONAL SCHOOL MACHINES! They used AutoCAD in the labs, and this is how it will still work. There are enough PCs located around campus for every student to use, so if they need AutoCAD they can do what every student in the history of the school did, use the lab's computers. However, there are not many Macs at the school but there is a lot of Mac software they use. Since there are many architecture students that need to use Macs daily it makes sense for them to have Apple laptops. They can't just put more Macs in the labs since there is no room, and other majors need the PCs.

Thats about all I can say about them choosing Macs; and I would rather get back on topic here.

I'll state the question again. At the very beginning of the year, or late last year, Apple was expecting to have G5 powerbooks ready to ship this year. This did not happen obviously.

I am looking into getting a powerbook, but there is nothing specific I would use it for that my PC laptop can't do. My current laptop launches the browser I use faster then the one I would use on a Powerbook. It launches the mail client I use faster then the one I would use on the Mac. I don't care about benchmarks or that I am using different programs on each platform since what it comes down to is what I will be doing. I want a Mac becuase I am a big Linux person when I am not playing a game or programming for Windows; so the BSD kernel plus all the cool Apple stuff (not to mention the very nice GUI) is why I want a Mac. The fastest 15 inch Powerbook costs $900 more then what I paid for my PC laptop and it does *MY* common tasks slower.

Since my school was expecting them, I am wondering if anyone thinks that "not this year" could be taken literally and mabye we will see them as early as January? I am just trying to see when people think they will be out and if it will be worth waiting or if I should get a G4 and just deal with it being slower.

For those that have stayed on topic and have been civil, thanks.

[Florida Gator]

e700 "G5"?


i hope so


maybe AAPL is releasing a new laptop, desktop replacement style

[Mudbug]

After numerous reported posts from this same thread, I think it's time to just close it down. I'm sorry the forum members can't seem to get along in this case. Why don't we all try harder next time?

- Mud