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MacRumors
Aug 12, 2009, 10:47 AM
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TUAW reports (http://www.tuaw.com/2009/08/11/t-mobile-stops-offering-prepaid-sidekick-data-service-to-iphone/) that T-Mobile has officially stopped allowing unlocked iPhone users on their network to use a prepaid Sidekick data plan. Responses to questions from T-Mobile USA's Twitter account (http://twitter.com/TMobile_USA) state, "You will no longer be able to use an IPhone [sic] with the Sidekick data plan" and "The Sidekick Data plan is meant for a Sidekick device. You may want to look into changing your data plan if ur [sic] using an iPhone."


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Some MacRumors forum members on the prepaid Sidekick plan have reported (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=761875) that they have not been able to access T-Mobile's EDGE data network in the past few days.

As the only other major GSM service provider in the U.S., iPhone users not wishing to move to or stay with AT&T turn to T-Mobile for service, despite its small yet still-expanding 3G network that transmits on a frequency incompatible with the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS. Up until now, the prepaid Sidekick data plan offered unlocked iPhone users unlimited internet/data and text messaging within the U.S. for $1 per day on top of any per-minute charges for calls. As a prepaid plan with no long-term contract attached, unlocked iPhone users had flexibility combined with reasonable plan costs.

Article Link: T-Mobile Sidekick Data Plans Now Off-Limits for iPhone Users (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/08/12/t-mobile-sidekick-data-plans-now-off-limits-for-iphone-users/)



toughluck
Aug 12, 2009, 10:54 AM
Im happy to be on AT&T for once :D:D:D

-toughluck

casik
Aug 12, 2009, 10:59 AM
I think it's funny that 1$/day is reasonable for unlimited data but people have a hissy fit when they only get 6gigs for 30$ a month in Canada... seriously... I have never ever seen anyone in any of the stores i have worked for even come close to that 6GB of data on their plans... most stay under 1GB

longofest
Aug 12, 2009, 11:05 AM
I think it's funny that 1$/day is reasonable for unlimited data but people have a hissy fit when they only get 6gigs for 30$ a month in Canada... seriously... I have never ever seen anyone in any of the stores i have worked for even come close to that 6GB of data on their plans... most stay under 1GB

It's all about marketing and impressions. What Rogers should do is call it an "unlimited" plan and put a statement in fine print similar to AT&T's that says that it has the right to cancel the contract if customers use excessive bandwidth.

As a friend of mine says, "words matter".

kkat69
Aug 12, 2009, 11:14 AM
LAWL @ unlocked iPhone users who got caught up in this. :p:D:p

jamest71
Aug 12, 2009, 12:17 PM
Back in January I called T-Mobile to find out the exact date my contract was up. The girl on the phone asked if I wanted a new phone. I told her no I was waiting to get the next iPhone(3GS). She SUGGESTED to me that iPhones can be MADE to work on T-Mobiles network... Honestly I was shocked a T-Mobile person would recommend a customer to do so.

cmwade77
Aug 12, 2009, 12:53 PM
Back in January I called T-Mobile to find out the exact date my contract was up. The girl on the phone asked if I wanted a new phone. I told her no I was waiting to get the next iPhone(3GS). She SUGGESTED to me that iPhones can be MADE to work on T-Mobiles network... Honestly I was shocked a T-Mobile person would recommend a customer to do so.

I am not shocked by it at all, T-Mobile is far more consumer friendly, they will unlock your phone (if you are out of contract or have had service for at least 60 days and are travelling internationally) for you. I wouldn't even be surprised if someone at one of their stores helped you unlock a iPhone or any other phone for that matter (unofficially of course).

So, even if you are leaving them, they still help you by unlocking your phone, assuming you have fulfilled the contract.

iphones4evry1
Aug 12, 2009, 12:56 PM
This could mean several things:

1) T-mobile's sales of it's own cell phones is increasing quickly (Sidekick) and they need the bandwidth for their own customers.

2) T-mobile is in talks with Apple to bring the iPhone to T-mobile when the AT&T contract expires.

3) None of the above; and T-mobile is only hurting themselves and creating bad public relations. The general public knows that iPhones can run on T-mobile, and this has been VERY good publicity for T-mobile over the past year.

spazzcat
Aug 12, 2009, 01:38 PM
Don't they know you can get 3G @ ATT for a $1 day...

TuckBodi
Aug 12, 2009, 01:40 PM
Back in January I called T-Mobile to find out the exact date my contract was up. The girl on the phone asked if I wanted a new phone. I told her no I was waiting to get the next iPhone(3GS). She SUGGESTED to me that iPhones can be MADE to work on T-Mobiles network... Honestly I was shocked a T-Mobile person would recommend a customer to do so.

Because my coverage at my house had gone from 3 bars two years ago to now 1 bar or Searching..., I had an AT$T rep tell me I might be better off going to T-Mobile with my iPhone. Now that's shocking!

miketcool
Aug 12, 2009, 02:00 PM
Not a big deal, they are just making you take the unlimited data and SMS for $34.99. Same thing happened to me using an unlocked Nokia, they just give you the correct data plan that matches their smartphone offerings.

T-Mobile is good about unlocking your device, even under contract. Just tell them you need it for dev work or traveling abroad. 48 hours turnaround.

applealex
Aug 12, 2009, 02:07 PM
I am not shocked by it at all, T-Mobile is far more consumer friendly, they will unlock your phone (if you are out of contract or have had service for at least 60 days and are travelling internationally) for you. I wouldn't even be surprised if someone at one of their stores helped you unlock a iPhone or any other phone for that matter (unofficially of course).

So, even if you are leaving them, they still help you by unlocking your phone, assuming you have fulfilled the contract.

I thought you had to buy a second hand unlocked iPhone on eBay

I contacted Apple and they told me that they did not offer unlocked iPhones and that it wasn't a good idea to unlock an iPhone as it would void the warranty and if I needed further assistance I should contact AT&T. I always thought Apple sold unlocked iPhones for like $600

Odid
Aug 12, 2009, 02:48 PM
I thought you had to buy a second hand unlocked iPhone on eBay

I contacted Apple and they told me that they did not offer unlocked iPhones and that it wasn't a good idea to unlock an iPhone as it would void the warranty and if I needed further assistance I should contact AT&T. I always thought Apple sold unlocked iPhones for like $600

Unlocked and no contract are two different things.

mrkgoo
Aug 12, 2009, 03:21 PM
LAWL @ unlocked iPhone users who got caught up in this. :p:D:p

I don't know what's funny - it sucks.

1) T-mobile's sales of it's own cell phones is increasing quickly (Sidekick) and they need the bandwidth for their own customers.

The thing is, we're not stealing bandwidth or anything - we ARE T-mobile's customers. We pay for it. I can sort of understand if they simply haven't accounted for the influx of users, so need to scale back.

mrgreen4242
Aug 12, 2009, 03:35 PM
Hm, that's interesting. I was playing with the idea of swapping my mom my iPod touch for her iPhone (EDGE model) when she upgraded to a 3GS and just using the iPhone as an iPod with a prepaid/by the day data option. Is there still a way to get a deal similar to this (pay about a buck a day for data with the iPhone and not pay for voice minutes or a plan or anything)?

iphones4evry1
Aug 12, 2009, 04:02 PM
Is there still a way to get a deal similar to this (pay about a buck a day for data with the iPhone and not pay for voice minutes or a plan or anything)?

I've been wondering the same thing. When my iPhone contract expires, can I use it as a prepaid phone or a GoPhone or at least something that doesn't cost $85 per month?
I think AT&T is losing a lot of customers because they don't offer a lower price option on iPhone service. I know a lot of people that would pay the $30 data fee and then have the minutes as a prepaid setup. But since AT&T does not offer this, my friends don't have iPhones and don't do business with AT&T.

Ted13
Aug 12, 2009, 04:24 PM
I thought you had to buy a second hand unlocked iPhone on eBay

I contacted Apple and they told me that they did not offer unlocked iPhones and that it wasn't a good idea to unlock an iPhone as it would void the warranty and if I needed further assistance I should contact AT&T. I always thought Apple sold unlocked iPhones for like $600
Apple does sell unlocked iPhones -- just not in the USA. They sell them in Hong Kong, as well as countries where they are required to do so by law, like Belgium, Italy, etc.

And of course you can always unlock an (original or 3G) iPhone yourself, but you also end up with a jailbroken phone, which is either good or bad depending on your point of view.

miketcool
Aug 12, 2009, 05:06 PM
Hm, that's interesting. I was playing with the idea of swapping my mom my iPod touch for her iPhone (EDGE model) when she upgraded to a 3GS and just using the iPhone as an iPod with a prepaid/by the day data option. Is there still a way to get a deal similar to this (pay about a buck a day for data with the iPhone and not pay for voice minutes or a plan or anything)?

I used to pay for a Blackberry Data plan, then it became SideKick. Now I pay $34.99 a month for an Unlimited Data and SMS plan. I am sure this is what T-Mo would setup anyone using a smartphone needing data, including former ATT peeps with an iPhone.

I also wonder if T-Mo will run a campaign for the former ATT iPhone slaves.

samab
Aug 12, 2009, 05:08 PM
Apple does sell unlocked iPhones -- just not in the USA. They sell them in Hong Kong, as well as countries where they are required to do so by law, like Belgium, Italy, etc.

And of course you can always unlock an (original or 3G) iPhone yourself, but you also end up with a jailbroken phone, which is either good or bad depending on your point of view.

Numerous carriers sell unlocked iphones --- but they aren't required to do so by law.

infiniteammo
Aug 12, 2009, 05:48 PM
I used to pay for a Blackberry Data plan, then it became SideKick. Now I pay $34.99 a month for an Unlimited Data and SMS plan. I am sure this is what T-Mo would setup anyone using a smartphone needing data, including former ATT peeps with an iPhone.

I also wonder if T-Mo will run a campaign for the former ATT iPhone slaves.

What kind of phone are you using that still works with this sidekick text/data plan? A blackberry?

techage14
Aug 12, 2009, 07:02 PM
this whole situation is just frustrating for us iPhone T-Mo users. I now only pay $1 for txt and email (strangely that works but, not internet?). absurd. i used to <3 T-Mo but, now they stab me in the back with this? Who can I turn to now? a ridiculous $35 a month ADDON? ohh 'cmon. :|

infiniteammo
Aug 12, 2009, 07:17 PM
this whole situation is just frustrating for us iPhone T-Mo users. I now only pay $1 for txt and email (strangely that works but, not internet?). absurd. i used to <3 T-Mo but, now they stab me in the back with this? Who can I turn to now? a ridiculous $35 a month ADDON? ohh 'cmon. :|

It is peculiar that the email still works.. :confused:
Guess we should be grateful.
I'd sooner buy Verizon's MiFi and actually get some decent speed and coverage than add $30 to my plan.

aristobrat
Aug 12, 2009, 07:28 PM
this whole situation is just frustrating for us iPhone T-Mo users. I now only pay $1 for txt and email (strangely that works but, not internet?). absurd. i used to <3 T-Mo but, now they stab me in the back with this? Who can I turn to now? a ridiculous $35 a month ADDON? ohh 'cmon. :|
I think I'm misunderstanding you.

You're fine when you "only pay" $1/day, but when you're told you'll have to pay $1.16/day, you feel like you're getting stabbed in the back?

infiniteammo
Aug 12, 2009, 07:37 PM
I think I'm misunderstanding you.

You're fine when you "only pay" $1/day, but when you're told you'll have to pay $1.16/day, you feel like you're getting stabbed in the back?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is an option to add a $30 data plan to a prepaid account with TMobile. I assumed what he meant was that the difference in price between $1/per day and the least expensive phone/text/data plan is about $30-$35.

aristobrat
Aug 12, 2009, 07:39 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is an option to add a $30 data plan to a prepaid account with TMobile. I assumed what he meant was that the difference in price between $1/per day and the least expensive phone/text/data plan is about $30-$35.
Thanks, ... I thought I wasn't understanding that correctly. :)

mrkgoo
Aug 12, 2009, 07:47 PM
this whole situation is just frustrating for us iPhone T-Mo users. I now only pay $1 for txt and email (strangely that works but, not internet?). absurd. i used to <3 T-Mo but, now they stab me in the back with this? Who can I turn to now? a ridiculous $35 a month ADDON? ohh 'cmon. :|

Sssh... Skype still works too (well, not for calls obviously).

psingh01
Aug 12, 2009, 09:10 PM
pretty dumb on T-Mobile's part. They make more money off a single iphone user than one of their sidekick users. Since they don't have to recoup the subsidized phone, it's just pure profit.

miketcool
Aug 12, 2009, 10:45 PM
What kind of phone are you using that still works with this sidekick text/data plan? A blackberry?

I said it USED to. Now it works with the Unlimited Web and SMS plan. It is a Nokia N82.

boleiro
Aug 13, 2009, 06:02 PM
yes, you can add the data plan ($34.99) to a pre paid account on Tmobile. I have been doing that on my iphone since last December. I also just had my data "forcibly" upgraded from the $20 unlimited data/text to the $34.99 data plan. Brings my total to $86 per month. I'm okay with the bump, its still significantly cheaper than AT&T's options. I was just upset at their draconian style of the upgrade. One morning, my data stopped working and when I called to get help, they told me I needed to talk to Tech Support to upgrade to the appropriate plan. This was mid billing cycle and I had to go through several levels of customer service to get anything remotely acceptable. Usually Tmo is great, but the rollout of this change was so poorly excuted. I would have been fine with it, had I received notice in advance. 1 strike for Tmo, but for almost a year on them, thats pretty good having been with AT&T, Sprint and Verizon.

miketcool
Aug 13, 2009, 06:48 PM
yes, you can add the data plan ($34.99) to a pre paid account on Tmobile. I have been doing that on my iphone since last December. I also just had my data "forcibly" upgraded from the $20 unlimited data/text to the $34.99 data plan. Brings my total to $86 per month. I'm okay with the bump, its still significantly cheaper than AT&T's options. I was just upset at their draconian style of the upgrade. One morning, my data stopped working and when I called to get help, they told me I needed to talk to Tech Support to upgrade to the appropriate plan. This was mid billing cycle and I had to go through several levels of customer service to get anything remotely acceptable. Usually Tmo is great, but the rollout of this change was so poorly excuted. I would have been fine with it, had I received notice in advance. 1 strike for Tmo, but for almost a year on them, thats pretty good having been with AT&T, Sprint and Verizon.

They were nice enough to give me a call about it and a txt message stating billing changes. I wasn't happy with the upgrade until I got my G1 which wasn't too long after. The comparable iPhone plans made me alright.

My biggest peeve was the 3G promise that T-Mo made and hasn't fulfilled. I don't know what political nonsense is going on in Ohio, but they have the towers and 3G equipment, just not the go ahead to switch on. This is what you get for buying a frequency from the government, a headache. I'm surprised Google hasn't had more sway in getting the switch to happen.

afs_nj
Aug 14, 2009, 12:31 AM
this whole situation is just frustrating for us iPhone T-Mo users. I now only pay $1 for txt and email (strangely that works but, not internet?). absurd. i used to <3 T-Mo but, now they stab me in the back with this? Who can I turn to now? a ridiculous $35 a month ADDON? ohh 'cmon. :|

Why should I care that you, an Apple user/proponent(?) is frustrated when you are breaking an Apple agreement that other users adhere to?

techage14
Aug 14, 2009, 01:07 AM
Why should I care that you, an Apple user/proponent(?) is frustrated when you are breaking an Apple agreement that other users adhere to?

First off, I do not have to adhere to Apple's agreement to uphold it's stupid AT&T exclusivity. That's why I cancelled my contract in the first place. :rolleyes: Second, I really don't want to argue about AT&T at the moment as there is plenty to say about them and many other people have ranted about it plenty in these here forums. Nonetheless, I don't expect you to care. However, many other T-Mo users who are in this situation have plenty to care about.

snoslicer8
Aug 14, 2009, 01:55 AM
Why should I care that you, an Apple user/proponent(?) is frustrated when you are breaking an Apple agreement that other users adhere to?

Those of us with unlocked iPhones are not breaking any agreement. The DMCA exemption gives us explicit rights to modify our phone's software for the purposes of unlocking the radio to work on other carriers, regardless of the EULA of said phone software.

On a side note, those with the legacy $5.99 T-Zones plan better hold on to it. It still works for me.

SpaceKitty
Aug 14, 2009, 02:37 AM
Why should I care that you, an Apple user/proponent(?) is frustrated when you are breaking an Apple agreement that other users adhere to?

There are also people who have first generation iPhones that already completed a two year contract. In order to activate that iPhone again, AT&T requires yet another two year contract. You can't blame people for not wanting to get another two year contract and such a phone.

firsttube
Aug 14, 2009, 04:35 PM
On a side note, those with the legacy $5.99 T-Zones plan better hold on to it. It still works for me.

I'll 2nd that, still working for me too. Shhh..

mbpuser7
Aug 15, 2009, 04:04 AM
Big smack in the face!:eek:

Joepy97
Aug 15, 2009, 08:34 AM
Does this switch affect those that are non prepay customers or just the prepaid side? I just bought a 2g iphone off ebay and was going to do the myfaves plan for 39.99 and add the 20.00 unlmtd internet package. Is this still available or not? :confused:

mkrishnan
Aug 15, 2009, 09:13 AM
On a side note, those with the legacy $5.99 T-Zones plan better hold on to it. It still works for me.

They should honestly bring back $1/day prepaid data services for all smartphones and go after people implementing these various T-zones hacks instead. You guys are going to ruin it for everyone with appropriate data packages. :D

(Still have $19.99 total internet from before the price change, still works fine).

reverie
Aug 15, 2009, 06:30 PM
The reason for this must be that iPhone users are bandwidth hogs, something many carriers have told us before. AT&T had the problem for a while, now T-Mobile is getting it and Verizon will soon as well. I wonder how many more years it will take until the networks are ready. I wish the US carriers could just forget about 4G until 2015 and make sure their 3G networks are ready for half the population moving to smartphones.

mkrishnan
Aug 15, 2009, 06:54 PM
The reason for this must be that iPhone users are bandwidth hogs

Interesting thoughts... it's possible -- people using all smartphones on the T-Mo prepaid plans are affected, but TBH it was never an issue until the past year when the iPhone became the hot data device.

I think it might also have something to do with the way Sidekicks use their server, though. I actually really suspect that, particularly if people complain to T-Mobile, they'll just provide a different prepaid data service that doesn't allow use of the hiptop APN.

The other non-iPhone issue that intersects here is the evolution of the "new" gen prepaid services like Cricket. They offer essentially monthly non-contract plans that are much cheaper than even T-Mobile's postpaid plans (like $50 for what I currently pay $70) but only via CDMA. Outside of the iPhone, that seems really tempting to me.

OTOH, I haven't noticed a lot of slowdowns or issues with T-Mobile EDGE... they generally seem to be able to provide bandwidth. And their fabulously incompatible 3G is not going to get overwhelmed by iPhones sadly. T-Mobile essentially said about 2 years ago that, strategically, they were not going to invest heavily in 3G and instead would try to be in LTE earlier and more seriously than others. Sadly in the US it comes down to the same issue that there's always a race for the high end of the market -- urban users with expensive plans -- and not for the middle or lower end of the market. So its profitable to offer a slim LTE presence in cities and no one bothers with extensive UMTS service.

flyguy206
Aug 18, 2009, 09:52 PM
They cut it of because you could get free data. I had the sidekick plan and got free data for month and they just caught it off

iluvgr8tdeals
Aug 19, 2009, 02:18 AM
The more I read this article, the more I suspect that, even if Verizon was to have the iPhone, the purported 'mass exodus' to a better service provider would be crushed by Verizon's tacking of fees once they had snared the 'victims'!

Let me get this straight. T-Mobile knows that, at the very least, those using iPhones on their networks are technically not following AT&T policies of iPhone usage exclusivity. They then 'ban' those 'illegals' because the 'illegals' are using the T-Mobile plan illegally? (Does this explain why immigration reform is so complicated?!!!)

AT&T is beginning to look saintly...

Yell0w
Aug 24, 2009, 12:16 AM
They should honestly bring back $1/day prepaid data services for all smartphones and go after people implementing these various T-zones hacks instead. You guys are going to ruin it for everyone with appropriate data packages. :D

(Still have $19.99 total internet from before the price change, still works fine).

i have the 19.99 unlimited plan for the sidekick and have a iphone but can't seem to make the internet work. does this internet cut off affect those who have a plan?

mccldwll
Aug 25, 2009, 04:03 PM
There are also people who have first generation iPhones that already completed a two year contract. In order to activate that iPhone again, AT&T requires yet another two year contract. You can't blame people for not wanting to get another two year contract and such a phone.


No it doesn't. It's month to month once contract over.

TuckBodi
Aug 25, 2009, 04:36 PM
I'm an original 2G owner and my contract ran out a few months ago. In the last year I've gone from 3 bars to 1 bar/Searching at my house where I also work. I've contacted att numerous times and they can't or won't do anything about my situation. When they blamed the phone Apple was kind enough to swap it out with a new one to prove it was the network (and I also swapped out the sim card as well).

I would like to wait a year and see if Apple goes with a different carrier but I need a cell phone in my house. I have the cheapest plan I can get with att ($59.99+) which gets me 450 min, 200 sms and unlimited data. I will be calling t-mobile this weekend to go over calling plans but am I to understand they've cranked up their data plans so it is now price wise the same or worse than what I am paying now? I'm hoping to go with a 1 yr contract so I'm not stuck if there is something new in a year.

pesawyer
Aug 26, 2009, 12:28 AM
This could mean several things:

1) T-mobile's sales of it's own cell phones is increasing quickly (Sidekick) and they need the bandwidth for their own customers.

2) T-mobile is in talks with Apple to bring the iPhone to T-mobile when the AT&T contract expires.

3) None of the above; and T-mobile is only hurting themselves and creating bad public relations. The general public knows that iPhones can run on T-mobile, and this has been VERY good publicity for T-mobile over the past year.

If you have a "Sidekick" account you ARE a T-mobile customer....who should care what phone you use? What difference does it make if you download 1GB with a Sidekick or an iPhone??? Bandwidth is bandwidth, the end user device shouldn't matter what so ever.

mccldwll
Aug 26, 2009, 07:10 AM
I have the cheapest plan I can get with att ($59.99+) which gets me 450 min, 200 sms and unlimited data. I will be calling t-mobile this weekend to go over calling plans but am I to understand they've cranked up their data plans so it is now price wise the same or worse than what I am paying now? I'm hoping to go with a 1 yr contract so I'm not stuck if there is something new in a year.


AT&T and T-Mobile have a lot of tower sharing agreements so very possible that a switch to T-Mobile would make no difference at all. We used to get bad service on a T-Mobile prepaid phone at house. Now, get great service and when turn on it says "Welcome to AT&T." I'd stick with 2G and AT&T for now. Might want to look into one of those cases with built in antennas (Belkin?) to improve signal.

aristobrat
Aug 26, 2009, 08:53 AM
If you have a "Sidekick" account you ARE a T-mobile customer....who should care what phone you use? What difference does it make if you download 1GB with a Sidekick or an iPhone??? Bandwidth is bandwidth, the end user device shouldn't matter what so ever.
At one point, Sidekick HTTP traffic went through special servers (run by Danger) that compressed and converted web pages to make them faster and formatted more properly for the Sidekicks browser. Don't know if that's still the case, but sometimes things aren't as cut and dry as you'd think.

eastercat
Aug 26, 2009, 09:37 AM
If you have a "Sidekick" account you ARE a T-mobile customer....who should care what phone you use? What difference does it make if you download 1GB with a Sidekick or an iPhone??? Bandwidth is bandwidth, the end user device shouldn't matter what so ever.
While bandwidth is bandwidth, one device makes it easier to use more bandwidth. It's sort of like the situation with toilets: one is low flow, while the other uses more water.
Unless I'm mistaken, it's not as easy to surf the internet using the sidekick as it is on the iPhone. If you're T-Mobile, you want to make sure that your legitimate customers have the necessary bandwidth. You can argue all you want, but the iPhone users aren't legitimate customers.
Personally, I want Apple to offer an unlocked version. This way, I can choose between T-Mobile or AT&T.

TuckBodi
Aug 26, 2009, 10:49 AM
AT&T and T-Mobile have a lot of tower sharing agreements so very possible that a switch to T-Mobile would make no difference at all. We used to get bad service on a T-Mobile prepaid phone at house. Now, get great service and when turn on it says "Welcome to AT&T." I'd stick with 2G and AT&T for now. Might want to look into one of those cases with built in antennas (Belkin?) to improve signal.

Hmmmm, interesting. Before the iPhone came out I was on t-mobile and I was getting 5 bars at my house and had great service here in Denver. The day I came home with my iPhone (and att) I was at 3 bars. Then they rolled out their 3G network and I went to 2 bars and in the last several months I went to 1/0 bars. It's well documented they're moving cell space from 2G to 3G to accommodate all the new users and I have no hope they'll ever amp up their reception in my area ever again. As a sidenote, there are spots in Denver I can get 3, 4 & 5 bars, it's just my neighborhood which has taken such a hit.

I wonder....if I can found a friend who'll let me, if I can take their Tmo sim card and throw it into my phone to test coverage (after I unlock of course) with a few phone calls. That way I'm not jumping into a contract and getting screwed like I am now. If it sucks then I just wait for something better down the road, hopefully next June. Hmmmm...

mkrishnan
Aug 26, 2009, 11:27 AM
I have the cheapest plan I can get with att ($59.99+) which gets me 450 min, 200 sms and unlimited data. I will be calling t-mobile this weekend to go over calling plans but am I to understand they've cranked up their data plans so it is now price wise the same or worse than what I am paying now?

It's probably worth calling them, but no, as I understand it, there's nothing really competitive with that anymore.

sidekickdata
Aug 7, 2010, 10:22 PM
You can now use the prepaid sidekick plan with a iPhone. The site that explains how is here: http://sidekickdataproxy.freetzi.com

marteen77
Aug 16, 2010, 03:12 AM
Hi,

iPhone users on their network to use a prepaid Sidekick data plan. Responses to questions from T-Mobile USA's Twitter account state, "You will no longer be able to use an I Phone [sic] with the Sidekick data plan" and "The Sidekick Data plan is meant for a Sidekick device. You may want to look into changing your data plan if u r sic using an i Phone.I think it's funny that 1$/day is reasonable for unlimited data but people have a his s y fit when they only get 6gigs for 30$ a month in Canada.seriously.I have never ever seen anyone in any of the stores i have worked for even come close to that 6GB of data on their plans. most stay under 1GB.

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technoholicjakk
Aug 16, 2010, 10:10 AM
I'm always glad to hear about MO's actually listening to what their customers want. Go T-Mobile, woop woop.