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MacRumors
Aug 17, 2009, 03:58 PM
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Electronista points out (http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/08/17/iphone.most.used.on.flickr/) that Flickr's Camera Finder (http://www.flickr.com/cameras/) is now showing that the iPhone is the most popular camera used for photos uploaded to the image sharing site. After approximately six weeks of trailing just behind the Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi, the iPhone has surged into the lead with a spike in activity over the past several weeks.


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/08/17/165554-flickr_camera_500.png

Flickr notes that the data is taken on a daily basis and measures the proportion of members who upload at least one photo from a specific camera on any given day. Because not all camera phones include model-identifying information in their metadata, such devices are under-represented in Flickr's data, although model identification is possible for approximately two-thirds of images uploaded.

Apple's iPhone has long been the most popular of the identifiable camera phones for Flickr uploads.


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/08/17/165554-flickr_phones_500.png


Article Link: iPhone Becomes Most Popular Camera for Flickr Photos (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/08/17/iphone-becomes-most-popular-camera-for-flickr-photos/)



GoCubsGo
Aug 17, 2009, 04:00 PM
This title is misleading. The iPhone leads CAMERAPHONES not CAMERAS.

Dmac77
Aug 17, 2009, 04:16 PM
This title is misleading. The iPhone leads CAMERAPHONES not CAMERAS.

Actually, according to the graphs, the iPhone leads in cameraphones, and normal cameras.

Don

newyorksole
Aug 17, 2009, 04:23 PM
This title is misleading. The iPhone leads CAMERAPHONES not CAMERAS.

Maybe you should take a CLOSER look.

I'm glad the iPhone is doing so well. But damn some company needs to do well also so Apple steps up the iPhone game!

iphones4evry1
Aug 17, 2009, 05:43 PM
This makes sense, since it is the camera that is always with you.

This title is misleading. The iPhone leads CAMERAPHONES not CAMERAS.

There are two graphs above.
The first graph is for all cameras.
The second graph is for cameraphones.
:)


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kymac
Aug 17, 2009, 05:43 PM
this is cool and all.. but its pretty annoying when you go to flickr to be inspired by all of the professional photographs and its overloaded with cellphone pics. not like it used to be!

eron
Aug 17, 2009, 06:13 PM
this is cool and all.. but its pretty annoying when you go to flickr to be inspired by all of the professional photographs and its overloaded with cellphone pics. not like it used to be!

Well, there are now more AWESOME pics uploaded by professional photographers on their iphones.

Many would argue that it's the skills that matters, not the camera.

macjram
Aug 17, 2009, 06:18 PM
Well, there are now more AWESOME pics uploaded by professional photographers on their iphones.

Many would argue that it's the skills that matters, not the camera.

Photography is 80% the photographer and 20% camera.

something like that ;)

GoCubsGo
Aug 17, 2009, 06:19 PM
Oh **** missed the little yellow line. :o

nickXedge
Aug 17, 2009, 07:27 PM
Well, there are now more AWESOME pics uploaded by professional photographers on their iphones.

Many would argue that it's the skills that matters, not the camera.

While I generally agree that the photographer is more important than the camera, there is a substantial difference in image quality when you're using a camera-phone versus using a full featured digital SLR.

Macmaniac
Aug 17, 2009, 08:50 PM
Great, now I can look at more terrible photos on Flickr:rolleyes:

eastercat
Aug 17, 2009, 08:57 PM
I get the feeling this won't prompt Apple to add a higher quality lens to the iPhone. While megapixels are nice, the lenses can make or break the camera.

batchtaster
Aug 17, 2009, 09:29 PM
this is cool and all.. but its pretty annoying when you go to flickr to be inspired by all of the professional photographs and its overloaded with cellphone pics. not like it used to be!

How terrible for you.

All these regular people invading realms previously occupied by the elite few.

You know, I hear the "regular people" are also making, *gasp*, movies now? Where will it end?

Rampant sarcasm aside, Flickr is hardly a professional photographer's site; it never has been. It's a photo-sharing site.

nickXedge
Aug 17, 2009, 09:54 PM
How terrible for you.

All these regular people invading realms previously occupied by the elite few.

You know, I hear the "regular people" are also making, *gasp*, movies now? Where will it end?

Rampant sarcasm aside, Flickr is hardly a professional photographer's site; it never has been. It's a photo-sharing site.

l0lz. Nicely done. I define the "regular people" identified in this post. And it is so true. :D

spillproof
Aug 17, 2009, 10:45 PM
Good for Flicker. I wonder how Photobucket is doing?

kymac
Aug 17, 2009, 11:51 PM
Rampant sarcasm aside, Flickr is hardly a professional photographer's site; it never has been. It's a photo-sharing site.

myspace and photobucket are also photo sharing sites, i would go and say that flickr is at a different level than those two. no?

Evangelion
Aug 18, 2009, 02:18 AM
While I generally agree that the photographer is more important than the camera, there is a substantial difference in image quality when you're using a camera-phone versus using a full featured digital SLR.

So, according to you, the "image quality" is an important part of "great photograph"? I guess pictures by Rober Capa are crap, since they are black & white, and quite grainy?

Most of the great pictures that we know of were taken with cameras that have crappy image-quality when compared to todays cameras. By your logic, those are in fact crappy pictures, because you need to have lots and lots of pixels, and all kinds of bells and whistles that improve "image quality" and therefore make the pictures better...

Seriously: you can take great pictures with crappy cameras, and you can take crappy pictures with hi-end DSLR. No amount of "image quality" will turn crappy picture in to a great picture.

myspace and photobucket are also photo sharing sites, i would go and say that flickr is at a different level than those two. no?

And Ford is above Lada, but that doesn't mean that Ford is a "hi-end" brand.

I would guess that serious photographers would be looking at sites like smugmug.

netdoc66
Aug 18, 2009, 02:54 AM
I own many professional cameras and the iPhone 3GS IS my everyday camera.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/photocology/3733066787/

I laugh when I read the comments on this site. A lot of your speak with authority sound like 10 year olds.

sushi
Aug 18, 2009, 03:06 AM
Electronista points out (http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/08/17/iphone.most.used.on.flickr/) that Flickr's Camera Finder (http://www.flickr.com/cameras/) is now showing that the iPhone is the most popular camera used for photos uploaded to the image sharing site.
Based upon what I've read on MR regarding the iPhone camera complaints, I thought that the iPhone camera was not good enough to take decent pictures. Silly me.

Convenience and a decent quality camera sure changes things. Glad to see.

Dagless
Aug 18, 2009, 06:35 AM
I'd say that "oh noes we're going to have lots of small photos on Flickr", but they're already all tiny. Why is the default size so small on that site, and most the people I used to follow didn't even include an option for larger viewing. Could do with some upgrades.

GoCubsGo
Aug 18, 2009, 06:38 AM
I get the feeling this won't prompt Apple to add a higher quality lens to the iPhone. While megapixels are nice, the lenses can make or break the camera.

It's the glass and the sensor. Here's the deal. If you want to shoot pics with your cell phone be my guest. I do and it's fine. The iPhone has an ok camera as far as I'm concerned. But it pales in comparison to my point and shoot G9 and my DSLR (d300). I can't shoot what I've shot with my d300 using my cell phone.

metavida
Aug 18, 2009, 07:15 AM
While the iPhone's growth is impressive, I'm pretty sure that the Flickr graph still shows the Canon Digital Rebel EOS is currently the top camera. The Digital Rebel EOS XSi is the successor to the XTi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_450D). Reading Flickr's graph to say that the iPhone is the #1 camera is like reading this graph (http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-US-monthly-200807-200906) to say that Firefox was (almost) more popular that Internet Explorer. It's only true if you ignore the other version of the products.

Evangelion
Aug 18, 2009, 07:16 AM
I can't shoot what I've shot with my d300 using my cell phone.

But still, the best camera you have, is the one that is with you. Your D300 might take better pictures, everything else being equal. But that doesn't help you one bit if you see something interesting, and your D300 is at home, while your iPhone is in your pocket...

Small White Car
Aug 18, 2009, 08:44 AM
So, according to you, the "image quality" is an important part of "great photograph"? I guess pictures by Rober Capa are crap, since they are black & white, and quite grainy?



You mean like this? http://8.media.tumblr.com/6jKnmPOPDob6pec5qMlBlHbNo1_400.jpg

That photo comes from a camera MANY times better than an iPhone camera.

So, Robert Capa used cameras way better than iPhone cameras. Good job finding an example that's the exact opposite of your argument. Maybe you should think of examples that agree with you instead of fight against you.

jamierson2k
Aug 18, 2009, 08:44 AM
anyone else notice that the first graph no longer shows iPhone's recent growth?

GoCubsGo
Aug 18, 2009, 08:51 AM
But still, the best camera you have, is the one that is with you. Your D300 might take better pictures, everything else being equal. But that doesn't help you one bit if you see something interesting, and your D300 is at home, while your iPhone is in your pocket...

I seriously don't disagree. However, my point was that the phone hasn't replaced my DSLR. Someone around here gave me the impression that we were being elitist saying the phone sucked as a camera and such. Or I may have misread. I've been known to do that. ;)

But yes, the phone is always with me. The D300, not so much. Comparing the two is just ... well silly to me

sushi
Aug 18, 2009, 09:37 AM
But still, the best camera you have, is the one that is with you.
So very true.

Back in the film days, I had a Canon A-1 with assorted lens and other equipment in a nice monogramed camera bag. It took some nice pictures when I had it.

I also had an Olympus 35mm instamatic camera that I carried with me all the time. Very convenient. I took 99% of my pictures with that camera because I always had it with me.

Evangelion
Aug 18, 2009, 01:14 PM
You mean like this? http://8.media.tumblr.com/6jKnmPOPDob6pec5qMlBlHbNo1_400.jpg


I mean like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Capa%2C_Death_of_a_Loyalist_Soldier.jpg

Something like that could easily be taken with an iPhone. Should we now be complaining that that is not a great picture because the image-quality is not perfect? Since when is greatness of a picture determined by it's "technical features"?

That photo comes from a camera MANY times better than an iPhone camera.

So, Robert Capa used cameras way better than iPhone cameras. Good job finding an example that's the exact opposite of your argument. Maybe you should think of examples that agree with you instead of fight against you.

Here's a hint: I wasn't comparing Capa and his gear to iPhone specificly, but all todays cameras that are not "hi-end". And that includes cameras like todays point 'n shoots. Your elitist attitude that photography should only be limited to the select few with DSLR's and the like really has no room in photography.

I bet that Capa would have been thrilled to have an iPhone-camera with him. You do not need to have expensive and sophisticated gear to take great photographs.

Sure, DSLR gives you more options than iPhone does, everything else being equal. Bust most photographers do not know how to take advantage of those options and features. And most of the time you do not have your DSLR with you.

Should we now be oohing and aahing pictures that have great technical specs but are otherwise crap, as opposed to applauding great pictures that might be a bit grainy, or under/overexposed?

MrSmith
Aug 18, 2009, 11:35 PM
I mean like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Capa%2C_Death_of_a_Loyalist_Soldier.jpg




It was faked. Keep up. ;)

Evangelion
Aug 19, 2009, 02:18 AM
It was faked. Keep up. ;)

It's 100% irrelevant whether it was faked or not, since we are talking about the image-quality of the picture, not the authenticity of the events its depicting.

If you want to take part in the discussion, at least try to understand what we are talking about.

MrSmith
Aug 19, 2009, 02:58 AM
Someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning. Didn't they, Mr Grumpy? :(

Evangelion
Aug 19, 2009, 03:19 AM
Someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning. Didn't they, Mr Grumpy? :(

Lets just say that snarky replies annoy me. And yes, I'm quilty of those as well on occasion.

kdarling
Aug 19, 2009, 07:10 AM
Hmmm.

Besides their caveat that non-identifiable phones are left off the chart....

It's interesting that the charts split out each Blackberry or Canon model, thus leading to lower results for each.

And yet ALL iPhone models are totalled together. Put the Canon Rebels together in a similar manner, and you lose the reader enticing headline.

I'm sure iPhones count for a ton of photos, but I don't understand why some charts have to go out of their way to manipulate the results.

nickXedge
Aug 19, 2009, 10:36 AM
So, according to you, the "image quality" is an important part of "great photograph"? I guess pictures by Rober Capa are crap, since they are black & white, and quite grainy?

Most of the great pictures that we know of were taken with cameras that have crappy image-quality when compared to todays cameras. By your logic, those are in fact crappy pictures, because you need to have lots and lots of pixels, and all kinds of bells and whistles that improve "image quality" and therefore make the pictures better...

Seriously: you can take great pictures with crappy cameras, and you can take crappy pictures with hi-end DSLR. No amount of "image quality" will turn crappy picture in to a great picture.

First of all, relax. Second, I never said image quality is an important part of "great photograph." You are making assumptions based on one sentence posted in an online forum. Furthermore, I'm not familiar with a lot of professional photography and never claimed to be, however I never said black and white pictures were crappy nor did I mention anything about color. Grainy can be good and a desired result depending what you are trying to achieve, and also something I didn't mention before.

I never said anything about crappy pictures at all for that matter, that's something you decided was a result of poor equipment. My simple point was that to the general public and people who use these image-sharing websites, such as Flickr, DSLRs will take better pictures than a camera-phone. I was not saying anything about professional photography at all, and if that's what you think this thread is about, I think you are sorely mistaken. This entire thread is focused on Flickr, which while some believe is/was a high-end image-sharing site, is generally used by everyday regular people, who apparently by your standards, take "crappy" pictures.

I repeat the most important part of what I said, RELAX.

iPhone 62S
Aug 19, 2009, 10:44 AM
The Photos app needs a "Send to Flickr" option, only fair since the Pre has this feature and the iPhone lets you upload videos you record to YouTube.

iluvgr8tdeals
Aug 20, 2009, 02:09 AM
I guess everybody is toying with their 3G or 3GS, taking pictures of their lunch or dog to post onto flickr. I want youtube (owned by the 'evil rival' company Google!) to post the spike of videos posted by 3GS owners!

I wonder what shall happen when MMS is officially enabled! A spike in MMSs sent!

The excitement shall soon fade away...

iPhone 62S
Aug 20, 2009, 04:17 AM
I guess everybody is toying with their 3G or 3GS, taking pictures of their lunch or dog to post onto flickr. I want youtube (owned by the 'evil rival' company Google!) to post the spike of videos posted by 3GS owners!

I wonder what shall happen when MMS is officially enabled! A spike in MMSs sent!

The excitement shall soon fade away...

Well in the 6 days after the 3GS was released, mobile YouTube uploads went up 400%!

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Aug 28, 2009, 02:18 AM
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susan123
Sep 1, 2009, 02:14 AM
Hey i am one of them, out there in the yellow. Just love flicker, its a superb website where i can share each & every pic i click. Just love it!

marrykonta
Oct 3, 2009, 06:01 AM
Hi MacRumors,

Well,Actually, according to the graphs, the iPhone leads in camera-phones, and normal cameras.Maybe you should take a CLOSER look.I am glad the iPhone is doing so well in average 1-2 years. But damn some company needs to do well also so Apple steps up the iPhone game!

Thanks