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xy14
Jul 10, 2004, 05:27 PM
Does anyone know of a web browser that costs less than $20 and is less than 15MB? I am doing a study and I am trying to compare them.

EDIT: I am going to show you web browsers that I find.

Here is a very simple web browser called iSurf compatible with OS 10.3. It is free and guess what: IT IS ONLY A 60KB DOWNLOAD!! When decompressed it is 200kb. Click here (http://justin.gq.nu/isurf.zip) to download it.



crazzyeddie
Jul 10, 2004, 06:06 PM
I have some news for you... Safari and many web browsers for OS X that are under 10MB use Webkit. This is Apple's web engine, so any apps that use it are technically not self-contained browsers, but only GUI front-ends to the webkit.

crazzyeddie
Jul 10, 2004, 06:11 PM
I did some searching despite my last post and found these:

Dillo (search VersionTracker)
Camino (uses Gekko [aka Mozilla] engine)

King Cobra
Jul 10, 2004, 06:16 PM
Click here (http://justin.gq.nu/isurf.zip) to download it.
I can't download it. I got a Forbidden message and then this:

Remote Host: [...]

You do not have permission to access http://justin.gq.nu/iSurf.zip

Data files must be stored on the same site they are linked from.

Thank you for using FreeServers

Duff-Man
Jul 10, 2004, 06:17 PM
Duff-Man says...Do you mean as a d/l or after it is expanded? Mozilla Firefox (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19029) is an 8.5 MB d/l but over 25 after expanded. Camino is over 20MB after expansion as well....oh yeah!

HexMonkey
Jul 10, 2004, 06:20 PM
Using WebKit, there's Shiira (http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/index-e.html) (similar features to Safari), TrailBlazer (http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/macwarriors/projects/trailblazer/) (innovative view of history) and a number of others.

You might find this site (http://darrel.knutson.com/mac/www/browsers.html) on Mac browsers useful.

King Cobra
Jul 10, 2004, 06:21 PM
There is a list here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.6/

One of the items is mozilla-mac-MachO-1.6.dmg.gz (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.6/mozilla-mac-MachO-1.6.dmg.gz). It is listed as 14.9MB. When I began to download it, however, my progress dialog showed #KB out of 152##KB. So I'm not sure if that still counts as under 15MB.

Oh, and it's free, hard to crash, and has lots of features. Actually, it only crashed on me maybe 3 times in the past 750+ hours of browser usage.

Jalexster
Jul 10, 2004, 07:54 PM
How big is Firefox? Thats a good browser. I looked at Camino, but couldn't try it because I currently have no access to my mac. I'm typing this with Cambridge Supertiger on my WinXP machine.

FuzzyBallz
Jul 10, 2004, 09:41 PM
FireFox 0.9.1 is around 23-25MB, I don't remember.

Wait, people pay money for web browsers? Seriously? Damn, and I thought people who buy screen cleaning solutions are high.

King Cobra
Jul 10, 2004, 09:45 PM
FireFox (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/) is 8.6MB, nowhere near 23 or 25MB.


I'm typing this with Cambridge Supertiger on my WinXP machine.
http://www.thetechpub.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Duff-Man
Jul 10, 2004, 09:50 PM
FireFox (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/) is 8.6MB, nowhere near 23 or 25MB.

http://www.thetechpub.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_razz.gifDuff-Man says...as I asked the above - is this person looking for d/l size or expanded size? Firefox *is* an 8.5mb d/l, but after expanded it is over 20mb.....oh yeah!

Jalexster
Jul 10, 2004, 10:45 PM
I'm now using Hoyle Waterbunny. This is not a joke.

FuzzyBallz
Jul 10, 2004, 11:13 PM
Duff-Man says...as I asked the above - is this person looking for d/l size or expanded size? Firefox *is* an 8.5mb d/l, but after expanded it is over 20mb.....oh yeah!
Exactly.

FelixDerKater
Jul 11, 2004, 01:29 AM
Does anyone really care that their browser is greater than 15MB anymore? I'm assuming that anyone using OS X will have much more than 15MB of free space. Browser size, to a certain extent, is becoming a non-issue.

Mitthrawnuruodo
Jul 11, 2004, 04:47 AM
Opera (http://www.opera.com/) is quite small (4.2 MB according to Mac OS X Software site (http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/internet_utilities/opera.html)) and is fast and quite good (ties with Firefox as my backup browser). Can be run for free in ad mode or you can register for like $30 for students and a bit more for others.

King Cobra
Jul 11, 2004, 09:54 AM
Duff-Man says...as I asked the above - is this person looking for d/l size or expanded size? Firefox *is* an 8.5mb d/l, but after expanded it is over 20mb.....oh yeah!
So Duff-Man has finally shut me up for a change...actually, no you didn't. It's 8.6MB according to the site, and 8.722MB according to Mozilla's download manager, not 8.5MB. So there. Keep up the "Duff-Man" style. :D

diehlr
Jul 11, 2004, 11:02 AM
What is the point in gauging a web browser on the amount of disk space it takes up? What you should be more concerned about is the amount of RAM and VM it uses while browsing typical sites.

itsumo
Jul 12, 2004, 08:07 AM
What is the point in gauging a web browser on the amount of disk space it takes up?
Maybe he wants to run it off a (very small) usb memory stick or something. It does seem a bit pointless though!

michaelrjohnson
Jul 12, 2004, 10:23 AM
Wait, people pay money for web browsers? Seriously? Damn, and I thought people who buy screen cleaning solutions are high.

I have to agree... With so many options available, who would pay for a browser? It just doesnt seem to make sense! It's just a waste of money, I mean, FireFox is free, and is one of the best browsers out there. It's always current, unlike that $35 "Pop-up Blocker" software people buy from Best Buy, Circuit City, and the like... People waste their money because they dont know what they're doing.

FelixDerKater
Jul 13, 2004, 07:28 AM
Should browsers be free? Imagine where some of these modern browsers would be if there were some sort of monetary incentive for the developers.

whooleytoo
Jul 13, 2004, 09:23 AM
Does anyone really care that their browser is greater than 15MB anymore? I'm assuming that anyone using OS X will have much more than 15MB of free space. Browser size, to a certain extent, is becoming a non-issue.

If you're stuck on a very slow dialup connection and need to download a browser, download size would be a serious concern. (And yes, there are lots of people who don't have broadband, or even 56Kbps of bandwidth).

michaelrjohnson
Jul 13, 2004, 09:24 AM
Should browsers be free? Imagine where some of these modern browsers would be if there were some sort of monetary incentive for the developers.

Well, I like to think that Safari is a "modern browser" and the developers at Apple are surely getting paid. As for the Mozilla project, it would be nearly impossible to generate a fair pay structure for all the developers who work on it. So, I'm going to have to say: No, I dont' think browsers would be *significantly* more advanced if browsers weren't free.