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whw5
Jul 21, 2004, 11:28 AM
I just bought the simsons season 3 on dvd and I would like to put it on my harddrive so that I can watch it without the dvds in the rom-drive. If I wanted to put the dvd's onto my computer how would i go about doing it. Also how much space would a dvd take up and how good would be the quality?


opps sry I put this in the wrong catagory. Sry guys!!!!!



jeremy.king
Jul 21, 2004, 11:49 AM
First you search the forums, then you will find that your answer is MacTheRipper (http://www.wormintheapple.gr/macdvd/mtr.html) amongst a slew of others. The size will depend on the content, but will never be larger than 9GB.

Now your next question will be "How do I compress" or convert formats...My response is show some effort and search. Many many threads on this very topic

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 21, 2004, 11:58 AM
I find that Mac the Ripper to be very good, and there is Version 2 out now.

To help you out a popular DVD compression program is DVD2OneX.

Hope this helps.

krimson
Jul 21, 2004, 12:03 PM
from memory, and it's probably off...
7.2G, 7.4G, 5.4G

IF you dont want to burn them, all you really need to do is put the DVD's in, launch DVD Player to decode, and drag n drop. once you have them on your drive, just use the file/open video_Ts folder, and then hit play.

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 12:27 PM
from memory, and it's probably off...
7.2G, 7.4G, 5.4G

IF you dont want to burn them, all you really need to do is put the DVD's in, launch DVD Player to decode, and drag n drop. once you have them on your drive, just use the file/open video_Ts folder, and then hit play.

I've been using DVDBackup (http://www.wormintheapple.gr/macdvd/DVDbackup.html) to decrypt - how do you use DVD Player to do it? Just have the movie open as you drag and drop?

FWIW, I've found that DVDRemaster (http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/) does a good job of shrinking movies to smaller sizes.

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 12:36 PM
IF you dont want to burn them....

Suppose I do want to burn them?

Here's my story: my 3 1/2 year old daughter took all - I mean all - of her DVDs on a flight to visit my parents. She took them in a DVD wallet. On the flight back, the wallet was left in the plane and, of course, never found. Even though it had our name and phone number in it.

And, yes, I know I was stupid not to check to ensure that she still had it in her backpack, but we had a ton of stuff to carry, and... anyway, whatever, my bad.

We've since repurchased all of the "essential" ones that we could find, like good little law-abiding citizens. However, certain Disney ones are back in the stupid Disney "vault", so we can't get them. I'm thinking of copying some from friends. Yes, I know it's illegal. However, I bought the original DVD, I still have the cases, I bought all the ones I still could, and it isn't my fault that Disney won't sell me the replacements. And, no, i'm not spending $100 on eBay to get some out-of-circulation movie I already paid too much for.

So, given that I can get them decrypted and sized for a single DVD, how do I burn a readable - on standard DVD players - DVD? Simply copying the files back doesn't work, unless I'm doing it wrong. Do I need something like Toast?

Edit: I did use the search, and didn't find anything relevant. Of course, searching on "DVD burn" turned up a lot of posts, and I'm sure I missed the 200 with useful information, but I didn't see this answered.

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 21, 2004, 12:39 PM
Why do people even bother responding to a thread if it rankles them that the question has been raised before?

edesignuk
Jul 21, 2004, 12:44 PM
Why do people even bother responding to a thread if it rankles them that the question has been raised before? "People" (obviously meaning me) respond because this question has been posted so, so, so, so many times that with just the smallest effort you should be able to find all you need to know from all the previous threads.
No need for rudeness here.So sorry *slaps wrist* :D

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 21, 2004, 12:46 PM
Edit: I did use the search, and didn't find anything relevant. Of course, searching on "DVD burn" turned up a lot of posts, and I'm sure I missed the 200 with useful information, but I didn't see this answered.

Thank you! If you don't know the right terms you end up with a bad search. And even then you end up with threads that the answer may be buried deep in 20+ pages.

And in this case the title was very clear on the info sought. If it is a question that has been asked before, and someone has nothing to add to the topic - THEN IGNORE IT!

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 12:55 PM
Just to clarify my question above:

I know how to get from a DVD to a decrypted, properly sized VIDEO_TS folder (and empty AUDIO_TS folder) with no hidden .DS_Store files - on my Mac.

I'm just curious if anyone can tell me the precise steps used to go from that to a readable DVD. Perhaps it's brainless and I just messed something up when I burned those two folders to a DVD.

Just checked the DVD I burned back inthe Mac - I ended up with .DS_Store files on it, although I'd deleted them before. Presumably, this is my problem. How do I burn without creating those files?

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 21, 2004, 01:01 PM
Just to clarify my question above:

I know how to get from a DVD to a decrypted, properly sized VIDEO_TS folder (and empty AUDIO_TS folder) with no hidden .DS_Store files - on my Mac.

I'm just curious if anyone can tell me the precise steps used to go from that to a readable DVD. Perhaps it's brainless and I just messed something up when I burned those two folders to a DVD.

Just checked the DVD I burned back inthe Mac - I ended up with .DS_Store files on it, although I'd deleted them before. Presumably, this is my problem. How do I burn without creating those files?

If you use Toast 6 and the UDF format; when you drag the DVD folder over, you will see the DS file. Just drag it off the Toast. And you should be done.

krimson
Jul 21, 2004, 01:01 PM
I've been using DVDBackup (http://www.wormintheapple.gr/macdvd/DVDbackup.html) to decrypt - how do you use DVD Player to do it? Just have the movie open as you drag and drop?

FWIW, I've found that DVDRemaster (http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/) does a good job of shrinking movies to smaller sizes.

All you really need is for DVD Player to decrypt the disc and have the decryption code in memory (or something) once that's done you can read the disc to copy it over. I usually just let it get to the menu, then pause it somewhere.

krimson
Jul 21, 2004, 01:01 PM
ds.store makes absolutely NO difference...

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 21, 2004, 01:03 PM
"People" (obviously meaning me) respond because this question has been posted so, so, so, so many times that with just the smallest effort you should be able to find all you need to know from all the previous threads.
So sorry *slaps wrist* :D

It wasn't just you (though the image was over the top IMO :) ).

jeremy.king
Jul 21, 2004, 01:56 PM
It wasn't just you (though the image was over the top IMO :) ).

I thought I was pretty polite about it. I told the person to use the search feature on this site's forums, and I answered his question.

There are so many people on these boards now that are even too lazy to google for an answer. They need to be spoonfed in a sense, and that's just lazy.

whw5
Jul 21, 2004, 02:07 PM
actually I realized this after I posted the thread and I proceded to search google. I did not know proper term however so I was unable to find good results. If my laziness annoys you the please just dont answer to these kind of forums.

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 21, 2004, 02:12 PM
All you really need is for DVD Player to decrypt the disc and have the decryption code in memory (or something) once that's done you can read the disc to copy it over. I usually just let it get to the menu, then pause it somewhere.

Mac The Ripper 2.0 does not require the running of DVD Player to decrypt.

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 02:17 PM
If you use Toast 6 and the UDF format; when you drag the DVD folder over, you will see the DS file. Just drag it off the Toast. And you should be done.

Thanks! I have Toast 5 (on a different system, but I can copy the files there); I suppose it'll work fine. Otherwise, I see no problem with the DVD I burned, and it plays with DVD Player, just not either of my Sony DVD players. Only thing I can see "wrong" with it is the .DS_Store file, which apparently isn't a bad thing. Oh well.

And I understand why people jump on others who post obvious questions - or people like me, who hijack a thread (I'll beat my head on the wall afterwards for atonement). I just figured people who could answer the title question in this thread could answer mine.

However, it isn't always easy to find an answer. Sometimes, there will be a nice thread found with great details. Often, though, it's hard to find an answer. Or a useful answer. Lots of "use Disk Utility" or "repair permissions"-type answers without details on how to do those things (and, yes, I know how to do them - just an example of how often the advice is just a bit short of answering a question with specific steps).

In the end, after looking around a bit - and I do think people should search first - it's often easier to just post than to continue to dig through old threads. It's even easier to ignore a post if you think it's an obvious question.

edesignuk
Jul 21, 2004, 02:36 PM
Now why is the world have the mods removed my eariler posts? Now half of this thread makes no sense to anyone reading it for the first time, what was the point in deleting them?? :rolleyes:

krimson
Jul 21, 2004, 02:39 PM
Mac The Ripper 2.0 does not require the running of DVD Player to decrypt.

You still gotta launch an app... MTR2, or Dvdplayer.. dvd player may require a few seconds more, but I'm not that lazy.. yet. :D

SilentPanda
Jul 21, 2004, 02:39 PM
Make sure when you burn the DVD you have an AUDIO_TS folder even if the folder is empty. Some DVD players look for this folder to be present.

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 02:39 PM
Now why is the world have the mods removed my eariler posts? Now half of this thread makes no sense to anyone reading it for the first time, what was the point in deleting them?? :rolleyes:

FWIW, I wasn't bothered by them. Truth be told, I assume that what I'm looking for is available via Search and I'm just too ignorant to find it. However, I've gotten the help I need, so I'm happy. And actually, I like your picture's-worth-a-thousand-words posts.

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 02:47 PM
Make sure when you burn the DVD you have an AUDIO_TS folder [B]even if the folder is empty[\B]. Some DVD players look for this folder to be present.

Thanks. It's there. Here's the listing:


[Dual-G5:/Volumes/DIEANOTHERDAY_DISC1] joe% ls -a
. .. .DS_Store AUDIO_TS VIDEO_TS
[Dual-G5:/Volumes/DIEANOTHERDAY_DISC1] joe% ls -a *
AUDIO_TS:
. ..

VIDEO_TS:
. VTS_01_0.BUP VTS_02_0.IFO VTS_03_0.VOB VTS_04_1.VOB VTS_05_2.VOB VTS_06_0.VOB VTS_07_1.VOB
.. VTS_01_0.IFO VTS_02_0.VOB VTS_03_1.VOB VTS_05_0.BUP VTS_05_3.VOB VTS_06_1.VOB
VIDEO_TS.BUP VTS_01_0.VOB VTS_02_1.VOB VTS_04_0.BUP VTS_05_0.IFO VTS_05_4.VOB VTS_07_0.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO VTS_01_1.VOB VTS_03_0.BUP VTS_04_0.IFO VTS_05_0.VOB VTS_06_0.BUP VTS_07_0.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB VTS_02_0.BUP VTS_03_0.IFO VTS_04_0.VOB VTS_05_1.VOB VTS_06_0.IFO VTS_07_0.VOB


And, yes, "Die Another Day" isn't a children's movie. It's what I had at my desk when I was testing this out before trying to find the DVDs I wanted to burn. I figured that if it looked OK, "Snow White" surely would.

seamuskrat
Jul 21, 2004, 02:58 PM
You are n the proper track.

STEP 1;

RIP
Use:
MacTheRipper 2.0 good and easy
DVDBAckup good and easy
OSEx works, less GUI like

Now you have a VIDEO_TS folder on the harddrive.

STEP 2
Test
Open DVD player. Go to FILE choose Open VIDEO_TS folder. Open YOUR Video_TS folder and play. test DVD.

STEP 3
Compression
If its over 4.4 gigs, you need compression.

DVD2One Great but costs $99.00 worth it, but not for casual backup.
DVDRequatisizer Also good, shareware and less than $99.00 Better choice

Compress to 4.4 gig.

STEP 4
Burn
Take the COMPRESSED VIDEO_TS folder and drag to TOATS, or ANY DVD burning software, delete the .DSStore (not required, but some players get funky withit) And Burn.

STEP 4a
DVDImager. It will make a DiscUtility image with VIDEO_TS folder and you can burn with DISKUTILITY for free.

Check out http://www.wormintheapple.gr/macdvd/download3.html for tutorials

and

http://www.cdcovers.cc/ or DVDCoverart.com for artwork. Easier than scanning your own.

Of course, its ambiguous whether any of this is legal. For sure, you must own the original DVD. So play nice and backup responsibly.

Suppose I do want to burn them?

Here's my story: my 3 1/2 year old daughter took all - I mean all - of her DVDs on a flight to visit my parents. She took them in a DVD wallet. On the flight back, the wallet was left in the plane and, of course, never found. Even though it had our name and phone number in it.

And, yes, I know I was stupid not to check to ensure that she still had it in her backpack, but we had a ton of stuff to carry, and... anyway, whatever, my bad.

We've since repurchased all of the "essential" ones that we could find, like good little law-abiding citizens. However, certain Disney ones are back in the stupid Disney "vault", so we can't get them. I'm thinking of copying some from friends. Yes, I know it's illegal. However, I bought the original DVD, I still have the cases, I bought all the ones I still could, and it isn't my fault that Disney won't sell me the replacements. And, no, i'm not spending $100 on eBay to get some out-of-circulation movie I already paid too much for.

So, given that I can get them decrypted and sized for a single DVD, how do I burn a readable - on standard DVD players - DVD? Simply copying the files back doesn't work, unless I'm doing it wrong. Do I need something like Toast?

Edit: I did use the search, and didn't find anything relevant. Of course, searching on "DVD burn" turned up a lot of posts, and I'm sure I missed the 200 with useful information, but I didn't see this answered.

spookykids
Jul 21, 2004, 03:39 PM
The link should help...

http://www.videohelp.com/guides#1;59

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 03:43 PM
Thank you for all the help. More importantly, my 3 1/2 year old thanks you!

BLINK
Jul 21, 2004, 04:10 PM
Hey guys! This topic is a great one to discuss. I am new to this and have never done it before. Therefore I request no bashing or insults if I ask obvious questions. If they are so obvious, then please answer them for me! Anyway, I managed to rip the DVD onto my computer and it plays successfuly in my computer without the actual DVD. It is now 7.29 GB, therefore it needs compression. DVD2OneX requires $99 if you want to compress more than 30 minutes worth of files. DVDRemaster also requires a purchase. The demo of DVDRemaster will "cripple" my video for 5 seconds every minute. I do not want that either. I tried to look up DVDRequatisizer which seamuskrat suggested. I could not find it! So, does anyone know anyone program that could be used for compression?

Another question: Is step 4a in seamuskrat's step-by-step guide needed when burning my DVD? I assume it isnt, but then again I am new. So point me in the right direction. I dont quite understand it...

Thank you!

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 04:24 PM
Another question: Is step 4a in seamuskrat's step-by-step guide needed when burning my DVD? I assume it isnt, but then again I am new. So point me in the right direction. I dont quite understand it...

Thank you!

I think that 4a is an alternative to 4. Note that you can find DVDImager here (http://lonestar.utsa.edu/llee/applescript/dvdimager.html)

BLINK
Jul 21, 2004, 04:30 PM
What did you use to compress your DVD with, jsw?

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 04:47 PM
What did you use to compress your DVD with, jsw?

I used DVDRemaster, since I couldn't see any real reason to spend the money on DVD2OneX - as far as I can tell, the only real plus is that it's (possibly) faster, and that it creates the disk image automatically.

I couldn't find anything free, so I went with the cheapest one I could find - DVDRemaster - and it works fine for me. I'm sure there is something free/cheaper out there; I just couldn't find one and my brother had recommended DVDRemaster, so I bought it.

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 05:27 PM
BLINK:

FWIW, I've tried all the steps above, but to no avail. I have burned a DVD-R which looks to my Mac just like the original DVD - i.e., I insert it into the tray, and DVD Player comes up and begins playing the disk. However, neither of my Sony DVD players, nor my Panasonic DVD Recorder, can read the disk. Perhaps I'm using bad media - I've got Memorex 4X DVD-R media, which seems fine (the Panasonic is fine with burning DVDs with it).

Here's what I did:


Copied the DVD content into a folder on my Mac.
Used DVDBackup to decrypt the DVD (but MacTheRipper looks interesting - I'll try that next).
Used DVD Remaster to reduce it (BTW, I was thinking that DVD2one was a lot more expensive; it isn't - 50 Euros, so not much more)
Used DVD Imager to create a disk image
Used Disk Utility to burn the image.


The resulting DVD looks fine to my Mac but won't play elsewhere.

Perhaps I need to use Toast. Looking into that now.

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 21, 2004, 06:27 PM
BLINK:

FWIW, I've tried all the steps above, but to no avail. I have burned a DVD-R which looks to my Mac just like the original DVD - i.e., I insert it into the tray, and DVD Player comes up and begins playing the disk. However, neither of my Sony DVD players, nor my Panasonic DVD Recorder, can read the disk. Perhaps I'm using bad media - I've got Memorex 4X DVD-R media, which seems fine (the Panasonic is fine with burning DVDs with it).

Here's what I did:


Copied the DVD content into a folder on my Mac.
Used DVDBackup to decrypt the DVD (but MacTheRipper looks interesting - I'll try that next).
Used DVD Remaster to reduce it (BTW, I was thinking that DVD2one was a lot more expensive; it isn't - 50 Euros, so not much more)
Used DVD Imager to create a disk image
Used Disk Utility to burn the image.


The resulting DVD looks fine to my Mac but won't play elsewhere.

Perhaps I need to use Toast. Looking into that now.

Silly question, how old are the Sony's and Panasonic DVD players? Not all players can read the DVD-R disks. There was a website that had a compatibility list.

jsw
Jul 21, 2004, 06:55 PM
Silly question, how old are the Sony's and Panasonic DVD players? Not all players can read the DVD-R disks. There was a website that had a compatibility list.

The Panasonic isn't even a year old, and actually writes to the same DVD-R's I've burned on (it's a DVR). But, when I insert the DVD burned as noted above, it says "incompatible media" or some such. I have to assume something minor is amiss - I just don't know what. I'm going to try the Toast route and see if it makes a difference. I know I'm missing one tiny thing, and it's driving me nuts!

Rod Rod
Jul 22, 2004, 12:23 AM
Yup, the key to making a playable / compatible disc is selecting the "Copy" tab in Toast, selecting the "UDF DVD-ROM" format option and then dragging in your disk image.

slughead
Jul 26, 2004, 02:05 PM
Yup, the key to making a playable / compatible disc is selecting the "Copy" tab in Toast, selecting the "UDF DVD-ROM" format option and then dragging in your disk image.

Is there a way to do this without toast??

Rod Rod
Jul 26, 2004, 02:44 PM
Is there a way to do this without toast??

jsw explained it in post#31. I haven't used that method though, and I suppose "disk imager" is freeware or shareware.

jsw
Jul 26, 2004, 02:54 PM
jsw explained it in post#31. I haven't used that method though, and I suppose "disk imager" is freeware or shareware.

Well, the method I posted didn't work - the disk wasn't readable outside the Mac. Guess I need to use Toast?

krimson
Jul 26, 2004, 03:06 PM
toast is very useful, i would definately recommend getting it. especially if you burn alot of discs like I do.

Rod Rod
Oct 16, 2004, 11:05 PM
Well, the method I posted didn't work - the disk wasn't readable outside the Mac. Guess I need to use Toast?

My July 22 post wasn't completely accurate, so I'll retract and correct it:

Once you're finished re-sizing your DVD-9 source to fit on a (burnable) DVD-5, you'll have a VIDEO_TS folder.

1. Launch Toast.
2. Select the Data tab.
3. Under the "Advanced" tab in the drawer, select "DVD-ROM (UDF)."
4. Click "New Disc" (bottom left corner).
5. Rename "My Disc" to whatever you like.
6. Inside this new disc, create a new folder. Click "New Folder" (bottom left corner) and name the new folder "AUDIO_TS." Leave that folder empty.
7. Drag your VIDEO_TS folder into your new disc.

At this point you should have two folders, AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS, right beside each other. Hopefully this won't be too tricky. One of my friends couldn't understand what this meant, and I think he was placing his VIDEO_TS folder inside his AUDIO_TS folder. You don't want that. You want the two folders to be on the same level, beside each other, and not one inside the other.

If you have any .dsstore, desktop.ds, desktop.db or other random files, remove them.

Now you're ready to burn.

The resulting disc work work on any DVD-R capable set-top player.