View Full Version : When do people expect PowerBook G5s to be released?
macreator
Jul 23, 2004, 11:14 PM
So here's a question for thought:
When do people expect Apple to release PowerBook G5s. Keep in mind that they are putting them in iMacs shortly. Voice your date expectations.
invaLPsion
Jul 23, 2004, 11:27 PM
EASY
MWSF2005
Nuff' said.
musicpyrite
Jul 23, 2004, 11:36 PM
If they aren't at MWSF 2005, then I'd guess last quater of 2005, or MacWorld 2006.
Hoping for MWSF 2005. :)
Dr. Dastardly
Jul 23, 2004, 11:36 PM
I tend to agree with Frink.
Duff-Man
Jul 23, 2004, 11:42 PM
Duff-Man says...I also think we will see some announcement at MWSF...but shipping in February (which probably means March...)...oh yeah!
Kingsnapped
Jul 23, 2004, 11:52 PM
OMG.... DUFF MAN(!) got a 'tar.... I was surprised to see what he chose... OH YEAHHHHH...
/threadjack
...late 2005.
goodwill
Jul 24, 2004, 12:28 AM
I agree, MWSF 2005. I think for sure it will be announced just like Tiger was and then won't be ready for release until January 2006.
LeeTom
Jul 24, 2004, 12:47 AM
I disagree. I think that the Powerbook G5s will be announced at the earliest next June, with shipping before the 2005-2006 school year; possibly announced in September 2005, and shipping for Christmas 2005.
Lee Tom
~Shard~
Jul 24, 2004, 01:03 AM
Optimistically, they could be announced at MWSF, but definitely wouldn't be shipping until a few months later if this was indeed the case. I'd lean more to late spring/early summer for them to show up, and even then, shipping might occur just in time for the back to school season. Ramming a server-class chip such as the G5 into that small enclosure will definitely be quite the engineering feat, so I don't see it happening anytime soon.
So if you're planning on buying a PowerBook and are wondering about the G5, DON'T - just buy a PowerBook now, unless you don't mind waiting an entire year. :cool:
~Shard~
Jul 24, 2004, 01:04 AM
Duff-Man says...I also think we will see some announcement at MWSF...but shipping in February (which probably means March...)...oh yeah!
Nice to see you finally got an avatar, Duff-Man! What can I say, it suits you... oh yeah! :cool:
mklos
Jul 25, 2004, 04:35 PM
I don't think you'll see a G5 in a PowerBook for quite some time. IBM is having enough trouble as it is getting enough quality processors for the PowerMac, Xserve, and iMac models. You also have to remember that its a hell of a lot easier to put a G5 in a desktop where its 100x easier to cool it and there isn't any power saving restrictions. The G5 processor still uses a lot of power, and creates a good amount of heat, even using a 90nm process. To prove my point, Apple has to use liquid cooling to continue cooling it quietly. Its not really possible to throw 8 or 9 fans in it because that will eat at the battery life. I just don't see it until very late next year, maybe even early 2006.
aswitcher
Jul 25, 2004, 05:12 PM
I think there about 12 months away. Look at the issues with the G5iMac thats been delayed, what, 3 months...
Also consider that any Rev A is likely to have a few hardware bugs...although I am sure I will be envious
~Shard~
Jul 25, 2004, 05:40 PM
I think there about 12 months away. Look at the issues with the G5iMac thats been delayed, what, 3 months...
Also consider that any Rev A is likely to have a few hardware bugs...although I am sure I will be envious
Yep, I agree - we won't see G5 PowerBooks for at least another year... And I don't think I'll be wanting to own a RevA one... ;)
Abstract
Jul 25, 2004, 06:05 PM
I'd expect to see them at WWDC, not MWSF in January. No way. :)
And any smart person would wait until the rev B comes out. Even the rev A 12" Aluminium Powerbook with the G4 was hot, and they didn't fix that problem until rev B (which I own). Imagine how hot it'll get with a G5 in there. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple says that figuring out how to cool the G5 in the 12" Powerbook is why its taking so long, and that they can already do it in the 17" enclosure.
quagmire
Jul 25, 2004, 07:50 PM
The earliest is going to be MWSF and the latest is paris in september 2005. Most likely I see it is MWSF. If they can fit a G5 in the imac they can fit it in the powerbook( 12" funeral). The second most likely is WWDC 2005. Paris is just to satisfy the people believe the fall 2005. But, won't happen.
Macmaniac
Jul 25, 2004, 08:11 PM
I think the arrival date is going to be very tied into with what the iMac G5's design is going to be. If its just a display with a computer behind it (a thicker version of the Studio Display) that may be a good sign that a PB G5 is coming soon since this setup would be a lot harder to cool. Now if it looks similar to the half dome model then this could mean that Apple still needs a bit of space to cool the G5, so that could mean Apple still has hurdles before they can squeeze the G5 into a PB. I hope MWSF.
captain da
Jul 25, 2004, 08:38 PM
i think january as well. some people on other forums claim to have friends who have seen prototypes, including this one
obviously this is just a rumour, but still:
http://199.105.116.92/52004E.php
be sure to read page 2 as well.
i'd heard they were thinking carbon fibre because it was the only material strong enough to stay structurally sound after cutting out all the holes they need for vents.
btw, i really want them to be shipping by the middle of summer 05, because i'm going to get a powerbook for university, and don't really want to be stuck for four years with the last g4 revision.
Littleodie914
Jul 25, 2004, 09:11 PM
Yep, I agree - we won't see G5 PowerBooks for at least another year... And I don't think I'll be wanting to own a RevA one... ;) Haha yea, like M&M's... Cept these WOULD melt in your hands! I'm interested in seeing how they deal with the heat issue... No way would they liquid cool a laptop... Right? :confused:
Duff-Man
Jul 25, 2004, 09:20 PM
i think january as well. some people on other forums claim to have friends who have seen prototypes, including this one
obviously this is just a rumour, but still:
http://199.105.116.92/52004E.php
be sure to read page 2 as well.Duff-Man says...MOSR...hahahah...that is not rumour - it is a lot closer to fantasy...oh yeah!
Chip NoVaMac
Jul 25, 2004, 09:58 PM
Duff-Man says...MOSR...hahahah...that is not rumour - it is a lot closer to fantasy...oh yeah!
Duff-Man, with all respect you have had one two many Duff's. Mark my words, June will the soonest for a PB G5.
oh yeah!
quagmire
Jul 25, 2004, 10:37 PM
I see the powerbooks and imacs kind of twinded together. They are both have small enclosures. If the imac G5 stays or shrinks in size we can probably say powerbook G5 are not that far away. If the imac really gets bigger the pbook G5 is another year away. Directed to the article. How accurate have macosrumors been before they went down. I heard from alot of people they have a bad record of being right. Frankly no material can protect the inside. I see apple sticking with the metal look. Plastic for apple pro machines are dead. I wouldn't care if the metal is pu over plastic but, plastic being viewable on the outside is gone.
jsw
Jul 25, 2004, 10:54 PM
Duff-Man, with all respect you have had one two many Duff's. Mark my words, June will the soonest for a PB G5.
oh yeah!
I think that Apple will do absolutely everything in its power to release Tiger and the new G5s in close proximity. I'm guessing late spring. They can always help heat issues by first issuing a "slow" G5 - 1.6, say. Or maybe even slower, if IBM will make them.
Chip NoVaMac
Jul 25, 2004, 11:15 PM
I think that Apple will do absolutely everything in its power to release Tiger and the new G5s in close proximity. I'm guessing late spring. They can always help heat issues by first issuing a "slow" G5 - 1.6, say. Or maybe even slower, if IBM will make them.
Late Spring would put in the May June timeframe.
JFreak
Jul 26, 2004, 12:45 AM
one powerbook revision has a lifespan of about 9 months, so that would put two possible and likely release dates to jan/feb and sept/oct next year. third possibility would be the wwdc next summer.
(no way they will release those babies this year, and should they not be able to release it very early next year, they will have to put out another G4PB and if they do that, they have to wait at least 4-5 months before they can announce the next big thing. otherwise every one of the last G4 revision owners would be pissed off badly.)
i hope it's january, but wouldn't be surprised if they can't do it then. anyway, i'm almost 100% sure january is the next time we see new powerbooks (be it G4 or G5).
macreator
Jul 27, 2004, 07:21 AM
Does it make any difference that now the iMac (consumer) will have a G5 and the pro laptop (the PowerBook) will still have a G4? Would that in anyway way mean that it would be more likely for a PBG5 to come out soon after the iMac G5?
~Shard~
Jul 27, 2004, 08:29 AM
Does it make any difference that now the iMac (consumer) will have a G5 and the pro laptop (the PowerBook) will still have a G4? Would that in anyway way mean that it would be more likely for a PBG5 to come out soon after the iMac G5?
Not really. Although one could argue that, if a consumer-level machine is geting a G5, the Pro-level machine DEFINITELY should, I don't think you can look at it this way. I think a more accurate view is that if Apple can put the G5 in an iMac, what sense would it make to hold that product back simply so that a G5 PowerBook could be developed more and the two could be released closer to each other? If Apple can do a G5 iMac, DO IT, and who cares if the G5 PowerBook won't be ready for another year. Hell, shove the G5 into an eMac if you get the chance as well! ;)
Chip NoVaMac
Jul 27, 2004, 09:29 AM
Hell, shove the G5 into an eMac if you get the chance as well! ;)
Man, and put a video card in that Core Image can support, oh yeah.
TDM21
Jul 27, 2004, 10:25 AM
I'm thinking that if the G5 pb does show up at MWSF there will only be a 15" and 17". Think of it as when they released the 12" and 17" ALpb and was still selling the TiPB. I say the 12" will still hold onto the G4 until things like heat issues are worked out.
*note: They are now putting AMD64 processors in laptops now. Do they not create some heat as well?
CmdrLaForge
Jul 27, 2004, 10:39 AM
my guess is announced at MWSF05 and shipping in March 05 or April 05.
rueyeet
Jul 27, 2004, 10:40 AM
So if you're planning on buying a PowerBook and are wondering about the G5, DON'T - just buy a PowerBook now, unless you don't mind waiting an entire year. :cool:And then another however many months, for Rev. B.
I do think that if Apple can swing an iMac G5 with the rumored behind-LCD enclosure, they'll have essentially solved the problem of getting a G5 in a 'Book-sized form factor. But since that iMac enclosure itself is still only a rumor, and the only thing we know for sure is that Apple intends the next iMac to be G5, I wouldn't want to be making any purchasing decisions until the new iMac is revealed. And given that this won't be until the Paris Expo in September at the earliest....
If you can't wait at least a year, buy your PowerBook now.
netytan
Jul 27, 2004, 11:13 AM
Actually the PBG5s don't interest me that much. I mean, im looking forward to having a 64bit processor in my portable but I know its gonna be a very long time before the G5s are as refined as the PBG4s are right now. Frankly im hoping for one more G4 release before we move up, just to get things prefect!
That way, the G4 should last me untill the G5s are as cool as the current PBs - no pun intended ;).
What do you think the chances of this happening are?
Mark.
stevehaslip
Jul 27, 2004, 11:32 AM
Actually the PBG5s don't interest me that much. I mean, im looking forward to having a 64bit processor in my portable but I know its gonna be a very long time before the G5s are as refined as the PBG4s are right now. Frankly im hoping for one more G4 release before we move up, just to get things prefect!
That way, the G4 should last me untill the G5s are as cool as the current PBs - no pun intended ;).
What do you think the chances of this happening are?
Mark.
i don't think you will have to wait too long, the imac a compact computer it can't have the fans and cooling system does that the powermac does, its more like a laptop than a conventional computer. so if they are releasing a new imac in september i can't see the powerbook g5 being far behind. But they haven't made it easy given the form factor that the pbg4 has. People won't be happy if the PBG5 is a brick!!!
keysersoze
Jul 27, 2004, 12:00 PM
i don't think you will have to wait too long, the imac a compact computer it can't have the fans and cooling system does that the powermac does, its more like a laptop than a conventional computer. so if they are releasing a new imac in september i can't see the powerbook g5 being far behind. But they haven't made it easy given the form factor that the pbg4 has. People won't be happy if the PBG5 is a brick!!!
I agree. Would YOU want a G5 PowerBook if it looked like this?
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook/stats/mac_portable.html
:)
stevehaslip
Jul 27, 2004, 12:54 PM
I agree. Would YOU want a G5 PowerBook if it looked like this?
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook/stats/mac_portable.html
:)
hehehehehehe! :p i was sure that the pic you were gonna link to would be that fat powerbook with a grill and a g5 label on the side, but that was sooo much better!!! :p
Chip NoVaMac
Jul 27, 2004, 01:12 PM
hehehehehehe! :p i was sure that the pic you were gonna link to would be that fat powerbook with a grill and a g5 label on the side, but that was sooo much better!!! :p
I had posted a thread about the idea of a thicker G5 PB. The thought I had was to better have a thicker PB to accommodate the G% and the heating issues. My thought was to have a PB Pro series till such time that the G5 heat issues could be solved. The answer was no for the most part.
Florida Gator
Jul 27, 2004, 01:50 PM
I would hope that in this day and age, IBM or Freescale would look to build a chip specifically designed for a laptop rather than scaling and trying to jam in a server/desktop chip. I look forward to that the most and am hoping for a new chip to be centrinoeqsue more than the G5.
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