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cursorx
Aug 8, 2004, 01:15 AM
Yo all! I know this is just one of the other 15" and 17" threads. But I am confused :)

After reading Macrumors for quite a long time, I am convinced. I need to switch. But I am not sure which one I should choose 15" or 17". The price difference I am gettin' is about 150$ between both and largely I would using the machine at my office as a desktop replacement, and take it for presentations etc.

What should I get? Which one will hold more value, considering the fact that I might want to upgrade two years down the line. Is the 17" too big/heavier than the 15? I would like to occasionaly carry the PB to cofee houses/similar places and work or do some client presentations as well.. would a 17" even fit there?

I don't have access to an Apple Centre here, so the only time I see both of them in real life would be when I am ready to buy it. Each one of the person I have talked to who have had PB's have different opinions.. two die hard guys recommend the 15, and say the 17" is an overkill, and is difficult to travel with and is heavy etc. etc.. Now I had a Compaq before, and I would say that would be bulky.

I would love to get some help :)

paxtonandrew
Aug 8, 2004, 01:55 AM
Depending on what you do or need the computer for, each size comes into its own. Do you need speed or portability?

Speed; go for the high end 15, or the 17 inch
Portability; go for either of the 15 inchers.

I have a 15 inch, with the 1.33 ghz cpu. I have no qualms wih taking it on holidays with me, or leaving it connected to a 23 inch (old model) screen. It really comes down to personal preference.

Nspace
Aug 8, 2004, 03:55 AM
I was really pleased with the 15". It was bigger than I thought when I checked them out. Unless your doing work you really feel you need the additional real estate on the screen then the 15" will probably serve you well and give you the added portability.

If it will be only the ocaissional trip where you not using the Powerbook in your office and you want the additional screen space I would go for the 17". The 17" is quite big and I think it is is a little wide for "laptop" usage.

It can be a tough decision but I can assure you, you will be pleased with either size :D

cursorx
Aug 8, 2004, 06:23 AM
If it will be only the ocaissional trip where you not using the Powerbook in your office and you want the additional screen space I would go for the 17". The 17" is quite big and I think it is is a little wide for "laptop" usage.

It can be a tough decision but I can assure you, you will be pleased with either size :D

Yep. It's tough, and after deliberating for sometime about 17" now I think I should go for 15", so I am swinging. But then how much difference can 1.5" make.. arrgh!

One of my friends suggested using a LCD panel and then spanning a 15" when I am in office.. but I think that's not really a good idea.. I don't want to clutter my desk with all gadgets :)

PieMac
Aug 8, 2004, 10:48 AM
I'm struggling with the exact same decision. I currently have the 17" Studio display (that I have grown very accustomed to in the last 10 months-both resolution and size-wise) and I am thinking of selling it and my dual G4 PowerMac and scaling down to a single Powerbook. I used a 14" iBook for my primary computer for a year and a half and my eyes got really tired of the smaller screen...as well as the resolution on it.

I tend to be drawn to the 15" overall, but I have this fear that I've just grown too accustomed to my 17" Studio display and would really miss the extra screen real estate. I prefer a 17" cinema screen to the square Studio display and that can be had with the 17" powerbook. If I could swing it, I would probably just keep the Studio display and get the 15" and have the best of both, but unfortunately, I need to sell both to afford the powerbook.

I would think that either one will hold it's value about the same...after all they are both Apple Powerbooks :)

Of course, ideally, wouldn't it be nice to have the 15" PB with the new 20" display ...? :D

mac_gal
Aug 8, 2004, 12:04 PM
I'd suggest the 15".

I love taking my 15" PB to coffee shops, but sometimes I'll have to stop somewhere on the way. I don't like leaving my PB in the car, so I take it out of the car and carry it.

A bag holding a 15" PB is a LOT more discrete than carrying a bag holding a 17" PB. Also, your back will thank you. :)

Oh yes, and depending where you go, a 17" may not fit well on a coffee shop table. I've seen one atop the standard round Starbucks tables and it consumed the ENTIRE table space.

puckhead193
Aug 8, 2004, 12:48 PM
I just got my 15" on monday and I love i. Its the perfect size. I can have Safari and AIM open at the same time. It light so I can take it anywhere. Its powerfull. its the greatest lapatop I ever owned. There a few quirks but there are far less then my old Dell. There's no apple dealers near you? Not even a compusa. So you can accually see the difference.

Natalia81
Aug 8, 2004, 01:47 PM
There a few quirks but there are far less then my old Dell. There's no apple dealers near you? Not even a compusa. So you can accually see the difference.

What quirks does it have? I'm still deciding between the 12" or 15" PB, if I even decide to make the big switch from windows. The closest Apple store/reseller from me is like 1.5 hrs away, which totally sucks!!!

idkew
Aug 8, 2004, 04:13 PM
i love my 17". love it more than my 15" i used to own.

puckhead193
Aug 8, 2004, 04:20 PM
What quirks does it have? I'm still deciding between the 12" or 15" PB, if I even decide to make the big switch from windows. The closest Apple store/reseller from me is like 1.5 hrs away, which totally sucks!!!

The only thing i find annoying is the trackpad. In fact i spent most of day looking for a mouse...but when i found one i liked they didn't have it in stock :mad: any suggestions?

Calvinatir
Aug 8, 2004, 06:34 PM
i LOVE my 17" PB! Wouldn't trade it for a 15!

cursorx
Aug 10, 2004, 12:21 AM
What I am seriously pondering is if there is some one here who bought a 15" then wished they had a 17" or vice versa. As I see it, I am spending those green bucks only once :D

Of late I have been sizing cofee tables!

PieMac
Aug 10, 2004, 06:27 AM
Are there any women on the board who have the 17"? Also, I wonder how the size is as far as just using it in your lap in general...Is it uncomfortable or awkward?

Corrupted
Aug 10, 2004, 11:09 AM
I'm on my 3rd PB. My first 2 was a Ti 500 and Ti 667 DVI and I have a 17" 1.33 now and I definitely prefer my 17" over the others. Trust me the 1440x900 resolution is alot better.

Converted2Truth
Aug 10, 2004, 11:34 AM
I'd go with the 15 incher. But the 17 inch give you more cooking space. I prefer my eggs over medium with a side of well done hashbrowns. Others want bacon and sausage too. With the 17", you can cook everything at once!

Eevee
Aug 10, 2004, 12:17 PM
Like you, I wasn't sure which powerbook to get. But after checking out the 15" and 17" at an Apple Store, I decided to get the 15". The 17" is really WIDE, and a bit heavy to carry when traveling. But if you are not traveling a lot, then get the 17". Or you can get teh 15" and a 17" display!

I just ordered my 15" powerbook (2 gig memory!) and an ipod. The Cram and Jam deal is great!

alanbuilds
Aug 10, 2004, 12:30 PM
ONLY $150. MORE FOR THE 17"ER?!?!?!?!! Which one will hold resale value better? -- NO BRAINER -- 17" !

Plus,(and,strangely, I've never seen this mentioned before on the countless 15" vs. 17" threads) the 17" is now the ONLY Powerbook-skinny, paperthin how-on-earth-is-this-possible-oh-my-god-is-this-beautiful! powerbook left. The 15" and 12" have bulked up slightly since the orginal Ti-books debuted as the only <1" full-featured notebook on earth. The others have broken the inch-thin limit, and feel more like normal notebooks. The 17", however, is still pure magic!

I think that the 17" looks & feels even better closed than open, carrying it unjacketed in your hand like the most beautiful, magical art presentation portfolio --- no heavy art work inside, but everything's inside! Holy Ives! --- the rounded edges feel so incredibly great in your hand . . .

Too bad you don't have an Apple store nearby; it's hard for me to imagine someone picking up & holding a 17" in carrying position and not falling at least somewhat in love . . . and for bascally the same price . . .

And now that higher-end digital cameras' resolutions are double or more the resolution of almost any LCD screen, monitor or projector (the new popular 8MP chip in KonicaMinolta, Olympus, Sony, Canon and Nikon point-and-shoots = 3264 x 2448 pixels; while Kodak’s 14MP chip = 4560 x 3048 pixels !!! What’ch ya gonna do?!!), ALL available screen sizes, even the new monster 30" (2560x1600) desktop, are starting to look mighty small!

(That said, none of the notebook screens are as bright as their stand-alone counterparts, if you're thinking of a [expensive] two-monitor solution . . .)

[And, although, in the spirit of complete disclosure, I have to admit, I'm quite happy with my 15" . . .]

Joeytpg
Aug 10, 2004, 03:44 PM
well......i'm a happy 15" 1.33 owner and i'll tell you right away..............this beauty feel INCREDIBLE!.....and it's awsomely jaw dropping.........but let me tell you.......if i hadn't been short in money......you bet i'd be infront of a 17" incher..........the screen real state is a peace of art!.....magical display........it's an amazing machine!!...and IT'S NOT THAT HEAVY!!.....and c'mon are you the weakest guy/girl around??...

come on man......it's not like having a 30 pound weight in your bag, just make sure you get a good confortable bag or backpack to carry it and that's IT!....

......and jesus HOW small are those coffee shop tables that you guys sit in?....if they're THAT small.....then don't go there man......cuz it's not about having a 15" or a 17" fit the table..................how 'bout those medicine student that have like 5 400 + pages books and still go there and sit with their books to study?.......

so don't pay attention to that man.........if you can.....get the 17" you won't regret it........i definitely don't regret getting this 15" I LOVE IT! (it replaced my 17" CTR PC monitor and PC desktop, and believe me i don't feel the need to go back......BUT.....my eyes ARE definitely acustomed to looking at the 15" and IT DOES feel a little small SOMETIMES! (after staring at it for 2 to 3 hours you feel it's a little bit smaller..... but at the same time i have to say that it doesn't hurt your eyes! heheh so it's magical!

i can definitely live with this beauty, but trust me the 17" is the sweetest DEAL around! :D

you'll be happy either way!.....BUT GET THE 17" if you can! :D

Lancetx
Aug 10, 2004, 04:18 PM
If you can afford them both I say definitely go for the 17" PB. I'm biased as that is what I have, but I still laugh when people say it is so huge and heavy. When you compare it to the 15" PB, you really see what little size/weight difference there really is. If less than 2 inches more width, less than one inch more depth and an extra 1.2 lbs makes that big of a difference I certainly haven't noticed it. :D

(HxWxD & Weight)
15" PB: 1.1 x 13.7 x 9.5 5.7 lbs
17" PB: 1.0 x 15.4 x 10.2 6.9 lbs

Actually when I was in the market for a new PowerBook recently, I had a hard time deciding between the 12" & 17" models. I never even considered going with the 15" because I figured if I'm going to "go big" that I should go all the way since the size and weight difference wasn't that great between the 15" and 17". In the end it was very tough passing on the 12" because it's so tiny and light. However, I got such a good deal on a 17" from Amazon, plus the fact that the 17" widescreen is so amazing that I just couldn't pass it up. But of course, everyone has different needs so I hope you end up with the PowerBook that fits you best like I did. :)

kasei
Aug 10, 2004, 04:39 PM
I too went through the same process in determining which should I buy. I finally settled on the 17" PowerBook and I have not looked back. As far as traveling, I am on the plane 4 times a month and I have not had any problems using the 17" PowerBook in cattle class or business class. I bought a Brenthaven backpack to make sure nothing would happen to it. I have gotten use to the size and find it very practical to use.

I say if push comes to shove, get the most you can for the money you have to spend. The only time I really notice the size is when I pull it out of the bag or when it is sitting next to another laptops.

Either way you won't go wrong. I switched 8 months ago and I am glad I did.

Good luck!

Loge
Aug 10, 2004, 06:04 PM
I use a 17 in now after just over a year with the 15 in. After a few days use, I hardly notice the increased weight and size of the unit. On the other hand the extra screen real estate (18.5%) is something I notice all the time. :)

Surreal
Aug 10, 2004, 07:51 PM
The 17 is really just an imposing behemoth.

really

sit in front of a 17 in and think to yourself... when i want to go places with my laptop...do i want to consider the size?

if yes...do it

i am a college student and am aboout(wthin the year LoL) to buy a powerbook.

I greatly appreciate that apple had the good sense to make the high end 15 identical to the 17 in all other areas.

so it actually si ONLY an issue of size. i prefer the 15...because a 17 would die..i am nomadic...and 17 is HUGE.

PieMac
Aug 11, 2004, 06:51 AM
After struggling with this decision for a week, I took the plunge and ordered the 17" powerbook (along with the iCurve) from Amazon.com. Both the 15" and the 17" are on sale right now (I saved around $140.00 off Apple's retail price plus free shipping and no tax). Also, they will let you return it within 30 days if you are unhappy with it for any reason minus the return shipping-there is no re-stocking fee as long as it's in like new condition and all packaging is in tact. From an email I received from them:

...As noted above, you can return the computer for a full refund if the
computer boxes have not been opened. This obviously precludes
actually using the computer.

However, you can still return the product if you are unsatisfied
with its performance. If the box has been opened and the computer
arrived in working condition, you will be responsible for the
shipping and handling charges associated with the return.

I've ordered lots from Amazon in the past and they've always been great to do business with...better than average and, in this respect, you are covered in the event the 17" proves to be too cumbersome.

As for myself, I concluded that my eyes have just grown too accustomed to my 17" Studio display for me to downgrade in screen size...plus I've always wanted a 17" widescreen, so now I will have it. :)

alanbuilds
Aug 11, 2004, 07:21 AM
The 17 is really just an imposing behemoth.
PC manufacturers all make imposing behemoths (gosh, that's fun to say!) and sell them as laptop/notebooks. Apple makes thin, light, beautiful Powerbooks.

PC notebooks have slimmed down quite a bit in the last few months, but still look pretty silly next to Powerbooks. Recently, Sony and most other PC companies have come out with their own versions of 17" (Well, actually, they're on second generation). Please! They're like strapping your family's basement TV and a minitower to a handtruck! They're battleships! Just go down to your nearest PC store, take a look, and suddenly the 17" Powerbook will look like a magical, featherweight, almost-not-there object of desire . . .

alanbuilds
Aug 11, 2004, 07:25 AM
After struggling with this decision for a week, I took the plunge and ordered the 17" powerbook . . . I've always wanted a 17" widescreen, so now I will have it. :)
Congratulations!

(Let us know how you like it!)

Vanilla
Aug 11, 2004, 07:47 AM
After struggling with this decision for a week, I took the plunge and ordered the 17" powerbook

Congratulations! You've made a fine, fine choice.

I've had mine for nearly two months and I'm still in love. I use it every day at work, connected to a pc network, carrying it to and from home and truly size/weight is not an issue. The screen real estate is just awesome, its fast, its stable and its beautiful.

Its nothing short of miraculous what Ives has done here.

Vanilla

PieMac
Aug 11, 2004, 08:58 AM
Congratulations!

(Let us know how you like it!)

Will do and thanks! I just checked the status and they are preparing it for shipment...keeping my fingers crossed that it will hopefully get here Friday!
:D

Lancetx
Aug 11, 2004, 11:19 AM
Will do and thanks! I just checked the status and they are preparing it for shipment...keeping my fingers crossed that it will hopefully get here Friday!
:D

Congrats on the purchase! I too ordered my 17" PB from Amazon (in late July) and even with the free "super saver shipping" I received mine from UPS on a Tuesday after ordering it just that previous Saturday. They also packed it great (triple boxed!) and overall were great to deal with. :)

PieMac
Aug 11, 2004, 12:20 PM
Congrats on the purchase! I too ordered my 17" PB from Amazon (in late July) and even with the free "super saver shipping" I received mine from UPS on a Tuesday after ordering it just that previous Saturday. They also packed it great (triple boxed!) and overall were great to deal with. :)

Thanks! That's really encouraging to hear! Is it running good for you? Any dead or stuck pixels?

Jovian9
Aug 11, 2004, 12:21 PM
I've had a number of 14" iBooks, a 12" G4 iBook, and now a 17" PowerBook.......and the 17" is the best of all (granted it's a PB and not an iBook like the others). The screen is sharp and has plenty of room for multiple windows. If you're traveling it is not that heavy to carry around, just be sure to get a comfortable case that holds what you need with the PB (to me this is the most important issue for traveling with a 17"). I love my PB and may never buy a smaller laptop again. You will not be disappointed with the 17" and it's a great size for desktop use/replacement......but if you want easier portability go for the 15".

PieMac
Aug 11, 2004, 12:26 PM
I've had a number of 14" iBooks, a 12" G4 iBook...

That's one of the deciding factors in my going with the 17" powerbook...I have a 14" iBook (that I will soon be Ebaying) and I figured that the 15" screen wouldn't be that big of a difference.

What case did you get for your 17"?

Jovian9
Aug 11, 2004, 01:03 PM
What case did you get for your 17"?

I bought a case made by Macally. I bought this b/c I carry around various cables, CD-R's/DVD-R's, a stand, headphones for my iPod, my iPod, a mouse, and some games and this case holds them all. This case also fits so that the strap hangs on one shoulder while the PB is on the other side of the body which helps distribute the weight while carrying it. It's a great durable case with lots of pockets and room. Here is a link to it:

http://shop.macconnection.com/web/Shopping/Product.htm?catalog%5Fname=PCCGeneral&category%5Fname=&product%5Fid=4768682&variant%5Fid=&SearchLogID=%7B7193C99F%2DDED9%2D4CDC%2DBC74%2DEED00B0A19BA%7D

You might also look into getting a PowerSleevz and a ScreensavRz to slide your case into (protect the outside) and put over your keyboard when closing the PB to keep the keys from pressing on the screen and to keep the oils from your fingers from going from the keys onto the screen (these can also be used to clean the screen). These protect the PB very well. Here is a link to these:

http://thinkdifferentstore.com/index.php?cPath=35&osCsid=b1356e96aa163d7072f0103f77f511ed

Hope this helps!

PieMac
Aug 11, 2004, 01:07 PM
Many thanks for the info! :)

Lancetx
Aug 11, 2004, 02:05 PM
Thanks! That's really encouraging to hear! Is it running good for you? Any dead or stuck pixels?

It's been great so far in the 2 weeks since it arrived. It showed up in perfect shape with no dead pixels and I haven't regretted going with the 17" at all. As far as cases go, I went with a Vanguard aluminum case and a Tucano Second Skin sleeve. I know it's probably overkill to first put it in a sleeve and then into a hard aluminum case, but I wanted to make absolutely sure it was protected really well. The iCurve has also been great for using it on a desk with an external keyboard/mouse and you'll definitely be glad you picked that up as well. :)

heaven
Aug 13, 2004, 06:32 PM
Congrats! You will love your PB! Now you can really show off infront of your friends :cool: Trust me ;)

PieMac
Aug 13, 2004, 10:27 PM
I received my 17" today and it really is impressive. Amazon did a great job packaging it and they got it to me within 3 days (and that was with their free "Super Saver Shipping"!). Not to mention that I saved some moola which will come in handy for picking up a case and some knick-knacks for it (I'm thinking Apple wireless keyboard, mouse, and adding a stick of 512 RAM to up the total to 1 GB just for good measure...although it's doing just great on the stock 512). Is this difficult to do? I just noticed that the manual recommends that you take it to an Apple service center for this but I've always upgraded my own RAM on my iBook, PowerMac, and my other half's iMac.

I am majorly impressed with how sleek, thin, and elegent the design is despite it's size...that alone, plus the amazing screen, really more than make up for the extra two inches. Of course, I will be using it primarily around the house and at my desk (I am typing this from the sofa). I don't find it awkward at all on my lap...and I am used to using a 14" iBook for a portable. My only regret is that I am going to have to Ebay my PowerMac and iBook to afford it...but I know it's worth it.

I have to chuckle at those who rave about the size issue...drama queens! ;) :p

cursorx
Aug 13, 2004, 11:51 PM
It's been great so far in the 2 weeks since it arrived. It showed up in perfect shape with no dead pixels and I haven't regretted going with the 17" at all. As far as cases go, I went with a Vanguard aluminum case and a Tucano Second Skin sleeve. I know it's probably overkill to first put it in a sleeve and then into a hard aluminum case, but I wanted to make absolutely sure it was protected really well. The iCurve has also been great for using it on a desk with an external keyboard/mouse and you'll definitely be glad you picked that up as well. :)

So now u aren't wishing u had got the 15? I mean u must be using pretty regularly so the size/weight now doesn't bother you at all? Any second thoughts?

PieMac
Aug 16, 2004, 11:03 PM
After using my new 17" PowerBook for a few days now, I can say that the size really isn't an issue...you adjust to it quickly. I love the screen size (my eyes are grateful) and I definitely feel that it is a fair trade-off. Too, it's so thin and sleek...and that also offsets the size.

I struggled with this same decision for two weeks but I kept coming back to my gut feeling which was the 17". What also helped me make my decision was honestly reaccessing my needs: I was going to be using my PowerBook as a desktop replacement as well as a portable, but I knew that I wouldn't be traveling any large degree with it. I use it mainly around the house, sometimes outside, the occasional trip to the local coffee house, and on trips home to see my family. And screen size was a big factor to me. I really got used to my 17" Studio display and before I graduated to that set-up, I used a 14" iBook which was a great little machine, but after a year and a half, I started jonesing for a larger display. The 15" PB wouldn't have been a major difference. The 17" definitely is and I am very glad I went with it. Anyway, hope this helps and that you reach your decision soon!

DJY
Aug 17, 2004, 04:22 AM
Two months for me and my 17" this weekend as well!!!!

Still very in love and still very much in awe of it, the screen, the OS!

New switcher - who is unsure how long I will be known as a new switcher?

Abstract
Aug 17, 2004, 05:40 AM
Not that this seems to be a great issue, but I just wanted to add that if you don't travel alot, go with the 17". I have a 12", and while I love bringing it to school everyday, once I finish school, I would want a 17".

There are so many things people don't consider when choosing their PB. Firstly, while the 12" is super portable for carrying around, its actually quite awkward to use on your lap. I don't do this often, but when I do, its difficult. Why? Because the footprint is so small that I feel as though its going to fall between my legs and hit the ground. It just doesn't feel comfortable. A 15" would fit better than a 12" or 17". I like my 12" though. :)

Another consideration: If you're going to go portable, the 15" has a shorter battery life than the 17". Yes, that's right. The 15" has the worst battery life of all the Powerbooks. Same battery as the 12", and the 12" can last for about 4 hours on battery life if you're ONLY using Word. The 15" usually lasts less than 3 hours. The 17" has a bigger battery than the 15" and 12", which compensates for the size. This is one reason for the 1.2lbs difference in weight. It would be worth it for Apple to put in the 17" battery into the 15" and make it a tad bit heavier.

The 1280 x 854 resolution of the 15" isn't THAT much greater than the 1024x768 res of the 12", meaning that it doesn't make that much difference in screen real estate. You may as well get the 17" and get the screen real estate that warrants a laptop size greater than the 12". No point going bigger than the 12" if it isn't that much bigger.

PieMac
Aug 17, 2004, 06:35 AM
Another consideration: If you're going to go portable, the 15" has a shorter battery life than the 17". Yes, that's right. The 15" has the worst battery life of all the Powerbooks.

Last night I got 4.5 hours in battery life...and that was while surfing the net with airport on (had bluetooth off).
That's even better than I got on my iBook.

Sven071
Aug 18, 2004, 08:47 PM
I got my 15" pb a few 2 weeks ago, and i am very pleased with the screen size, its just right...................... bow when i look at 14in notebooks, they all look funny to me with out the wide screen................. just my 2 cents

PeterD42
Aug 18, 2004, 09:13 PM
I think if you are going to use it mainly on the desktop I'd go for the 17inch. I love my 15inch and really compared to my old 13 inch Toshiba it is physically smaller. If you are only going to use it occasionally as a "lap" top you could still use the 17inch for this prurpose.

Lancetx
Aug 19, 2004, 03:21 PM
So now u aren't wishing u had got the 15? I mean u must be using pretty regularly so the size/weight now doesn't bother you at all? Any second thoughts?

None whatsoever. Like I said in a previous post, the extra 1.2 lbs is barely noticeable. I absolutely love it and would highly recommend it to anyone. I see that PieMac feels the same now that he has his too.

PieMac
Aug 19, 2004, 03:39 PM
None whatsoever. Like I said in a previous post, the extra 1.2 lbs is barely noticeable. I absolutely love it and would highly recommend it to anyone. I see that PieMac feels the same now that he has his too.

Yep...wouldn't trade it! And I highly recommend Amazon.com as place of purchase and I'm sure Lancetx would agree.

Lancetx
Aug 19, 2004, 04:17 PM
Yep...wouldn't trade it! And I highly recommend Amazon.com as place of purchase and I'm sure Lancetx would agree.

Absolutely. I'm quite happy to hear that your experience with getting your PB from them was as good as mine was. I'll definitely look there first again next time I'm in the market for a new Mac.

wiregen
Aug 19, 2004, 06:00 PM
I am having doubts on mine. I put mine on the for sale/trade for a 15" or a 12".

-Truthfully my biggiest issue is not the weight, but the size and how I need to get an unconvential bag to carry it around.
-Not only that during lections, its so big it attracts attention, in a bad way. always have to sit in the back of the class to get anything done without someone staring. Which is good only if I was in a starbucks.
-My other gripe is how much room it takes...which i quickly remedied by just using the powerbook as my writing space...did i mention is a pretty good place to leave quick post its notes? :)

Which leaves me to my thoughts. Is there a good bag with this laptop to carry books/my laptop/and that is a messanger not backpack style that looks good but also protects? If I actually find a decent messanger style backpack I might actaully keep this, thats my only biggiest annoyance..since I bring this everywhere I go via/ powersleeve and carrying my normal backpack..which is a pain.

Lancetx
Aug 20, 2004, 09:22 AM
I am having doubts on mine. I put mine on the for sale/trade for a 15" or a 12".

-Truthfully my biggiest issue is not the weight, but the size and how I need to get an unconvential bag to carry it around.
-Not only that during lections, its so big it attracts attention, in a bad way. always have to sit in the back of the class to get anything done without someone staring. Which is good only if I was in a starbucks.
-My other gripe is how much room it takes...which i quickly remedied by just using the powerbook as my writing space...did i mention is a pretty good place to leave quick post its notes? :)

I don't blame you. If I were using mine for the same things you are, then I probably would have bought the 12" myself. But thankfully Apple gives us 3 choices so that pretty much fills any need a person may have. Hope it all works out for you. :)

PieMac
Aug 20, 2004, 10:17 AM
Which leaves me to my thoughts. Is there a good bag with this laptop to carry books/my laptop/and that is a messanger not backpack style that looks good but also protects? If I actually find a decent messanger style backpack I might actaully keep this, thats my only biggiest annoyance..since I bring this everywhere I go via/ powersleeve and carrying my normal backpack..which is a pain.

I highly recommend Waterfield (http://www.sfbags.com/). I ordered the sleeve with all of the works and it arrived in just two days and this was from across country with the standard $5.00 shipping! They have a large variety of bags specifically made for the PowerBook line. Some are on the pricey side, but I have no doubt they are worth it. My needs are minimal which is why I just went with the sleeve with foldover flap, shoulder strap with pad (bare none the most comfortable I've ever used...it actually has a "bungee" type effect to it), and the "piggyback" added for peripherals. Oh, and my 17" PowerBook fits perfectly and with ample protection. I had done a good bit of research on a bag/sleeve and found nothing but positive things about this company and their products...and I second that!

I previously had a Crumpler McBains Lovechild for my iBook and while it was a well constructed bag with great looks, this one blows it away.

Rob587
Aug 22, 2004, 04:19 PM
See Im kinda screwed when it comes to this decision. I really need the 17" b/c it needs to be a desktop replacement and I think its really sexy, but it will be for colllege and if I find my self wanting to type notes in class I deffinatley wolnt want to with the 17". Now I know you guys are gonna say "whats the problem just get the 12"", but Im pretty obsessed with the 17" and If I dont end up wanting to take notes in class or find it not that big of a deal ill regret not getting the 17".(dont really like the 15")

PieMac
Aug 22, 2004, 05:14 PM
See Im kinda screwed when it comes to this decision. I really need the 17" b/c it needs to be a desktop replacement and I think its really sexy, but it will be for colllege and if I find my self wanting to type notes in class I deffinatley wolnt want to with the 17". Now I know you guys are gonna say "whats the problem just get the 12"", but Im pretty obsessed with the 17" and If I dont end up wanting to take notes in class or find it not that big of a deal ill regret not getting the 17".(dont really like the 15")

Get the 17" or I think you will wind up regretting it. Believe me, you'll get used to the size very quickly and it really isn't as big of an issue as you think. :)

DJY
Aug 23, 2004, 03:51 AM
Im pretty obsessed with the 17" and If I dont end up wanting to take notes in class or find it not that big of a deal ill regret not getting the 17".(dont really like the 15")

Sounds like there is no problem here then!!!!
I loved the look of the 17"...
was also mostly going to use it as a desktop replacement - but I wanted portability as well...
I thought rationally about the 15 and the 12 (albeit briefly)...

and bought the 17!

LOVE IT! No regrets here!

zelmo
Aug 23, 2004, 06:51 AM
I got my 1.33GHz 15" PB two weeks ago, and I love it, love it, love it!
I wouldn't worry too much about the weight difference in determining which way to go. I mean, after you load down your bag with the PB, cables, mouse, and all the other miscellaneous accoutrements you'll be hauling around, the extra pound or so makes no difference [think deck chair off the Titanic].

The only thing you ought to consider is usage. Will the extra sreen real estate be worth it? Will you feel cramped by the extra size of the 17" beast? Answer these questions, and you'll know what to do.

Rob587
Aug 23, 2004, 10:09 AM
I think I have seen more ppl get the 15" and regret not getting the 17" than ppl that get the 17" and regret that they didnt get the 15". That being said, I will probally end up getting the 17". I hope I dont want to take notes in class with a computer cuz I deffinatly wolnt with the 17".

Rob587
Aug 23, 2004, 11:12 PM
Nudge(mind u, its not a bump)

dotnina
Aug 24, 2004, 12:39 AM
I'd go with the 15". It's a good mix of size and portability, especially considering you want to take your laptop to presentations.