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sturmnacht

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I am wondering what the TDP is for both the C2D processor and the GPU (9600M GT) in the 15" MacBook Pro. That way, I can judge what can be placed and what not in the future MacBook Pros.

Also, does 13" MacBook Pro uses 25W TDP processors?
 

maflynn

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Which particular model MBP, 2.53, 2.66, etc and what you do mean "That way, I can judge what can be placed and what not in the future MacBook Pros."

Future MBPs are going to the arrandale chipset so if you're trying to judge the future based on TDP, I'm not sure that will work - that is if I understand your post correctly which I may not.
 

sturmnacht

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Which particular model MBP, 2.53, 2.66, etc and what you do mean "That way, I can judge what can be placed and what not in the future MacBook Pros."

Future MBPs are going to the arrandale chipset so if you're trying to judge the future based on TDP, I'm not sure that will work - that is if I understand your post correctly which I may not.

The model that uses 3.06GHz.

TDP is part of what can go in the future MBP. For example, MBP can not have Core2Extreme, because the TDP is 44W.

I just want to confirm that the processor's TDP is 35W, because the Arrandale chips have similar TDP. However, I am not sure what the TDP of its GPU is.
 

briancl

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Intel C2D Penryn Mobile T-series:
3.06ghz T9900 35W $530
2.8ghz T9600 35W $530

Intel C2D Penryn Mobile P-series:
2.66ghz P8800 25W $241
2.53ghz T8700 25W $241
2.26ghz P8400 25W $209

Nvidia GPU/Chipset:
9400M 12W (GPU, north and south bridge)
9600M 23W (discrete GPU)

Total TDP for top end (2.8 or 3.06ghz): 35+12+23 = 70W
Total TDP for medium (2.66 w/9600M): 25+12+23 = 60W
Total TDP for low end (2.53 or 2.26): 25+12 = 37W

Possible Future:

Intel Arrandale Core i7 series:
2.66ghz 620M 35W $332

Intel Arrandale Core i5 series:
2.53ghz 540M 35W $257
2.4ghz 520M 35W $225
2.26ghz 430M 35W $?

Intel HM55/57 Chipset (southbridge): 5W
Nvidia 325M, 330M, 335M: 23W (Estimated based on 200-series)

Total TDP for MBP w/ discrete: 35+5+23 = 63W
Total TDP for MBP w/o discrete: 35+5 = 40W
 

maflynn

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They might come on as to condescending maybe.


I used the ****** links for a day or two, and in the end they got edited.

Here is a more "in-depth" discussion about that: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/707856/

I used it once and my post was edited. I figured at that point it was a no-no.

It wasn't a huge deal and I've not been a member so long that I felt I could complain about it. I suppose it makes sense on being condescending.
 
on a side note, since the hardware, chipsets and everything computer related is constantly evolving, there's no way to know what they'll actually stick within a new laptop.

though a good note, would be to consider it to be no greater than 85W total combined, as that's what's available from the power brick.

also, since the processors, graphics cards etc aren't changeable, what the hell does it matter?
 

sturmnacht

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Intel C2D Penryn Mobile T-series:
3.06ghz T9900 35W $530
2.8ghz T9600 35W $530

Intel C2D Penryn Mobile P-series:
2.66ghz P8800 25W $241
2.53ghz T8700 25W $241
2.26ghz P8400 25W $209

Nvidia GPU/Chipset:
9400M 12W (GPU, north and south bridge)
9600M 23W (discrete GPU)

Total TDP for top end (2.8 or 3.06ghz): 35+12+23 = 70W
Total TDP for medium (2.66 w/9600M): 25+12+23 = 60W
Total TDP for low end (2.53 or 2.26): 25+12 = 37W

Possible Future:

Intel Arrandale Core i7 series:
2.66ghz 620M 35W $332

Intel Arrandale Core i5 series:
2.53ghz 540M 35W $257
2.4ghz 520M 35W $225
2.26ghz 430M 35W $?

Intel HM55/57 Chipset (southbridge): 5W
Nvidia 325M, 330M, 335M: 23W (Estimated based on 200-series)

Total TDP for MBP w/ discrete: 35+5+23 = 63W
Total TDP for MBP w/o discrete: 35+5 = 40W

Cool, thanks a lot, brian.

Ok, the 15" and 17" MBP seems to have tons of choices on what GPU to select, so that is pretty much anybody's guess.

As for the 13" MBP, given the chassis size, that's a big challenge. I am not that certain that this can include a discrete GPU at all, unless Apple made an epic improvement on the cooling solution. It seems like 40W is already pushing the limits.
 

sturmnacht

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According to Wikipedia, the following processors are also available

Core i7-620LM 2000 MHz 2.80 GHz Turbo
Core i7-620LE 2000 MHz 2.80 GHz Turbo
Core i7-640LM 2133 MHz 2.93 GHz Turbo

These are low voltage Arrandale processors with 25W TDP. Can these be possible candidates for the future 13" MacBook Pro? That way, Apple can then include discrete GPUs.
 

briancl

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Jan 3, 2010
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According to Wikipedia, the following processors are also available

Core i7-620LM 2000 MHz 2.80 GHz Turbo
Core i7-620LE 2000 MHz 2.80 GHz Turbo
Core i7-640LM 2133 MHz 2.93 GHz Turbo

These are low voltage Arrandale processors with 25W TDP. Can these be possible candidates for the future 13" MacBook Pro? That way, Apple can then include discrete GPUs.

These are not realistic options for the MBP line. Apple has never included low power CPUs in this line, and for good reason: they are expensive and slower. Apple and other manufacturers have all met their needs with regular power chips so far, and I don't see any reason to change this strategy.

However, these are great chips for the MacBook Air. Currently, the MBA uses a 17W 2.13ghz CPU with the 9400M GPU&chipset weighing in at 12W for a total of 29W. For 25W, Apple can drop in a 2.13ghz Arrandale that performs like a 2.8ghz C2D, and then add in the Intel chipset for 5W and have a total of 30W. Performance goes up dramatically for the same price and thermal envelope.

The MacBook Air was made designed to have a chip like Arrandale inside, and I think it might become a useful computer at the same pricepoint with a large jump in performance.
 
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