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smogsy
Jan 17, 2010, 11:25 AM
Who rates there Music properly? for example giving different stars do the music they like,

im asking as on another forum i go on, i said im rating mine they thought it was a waste,

do you rate your music & why?



miles01110
Jan 17, 2010, 11:28 AM
Nope. Waste of time.

MacDawg
Jan 17, 2010, 11:30 AM
Nope
If I didn't like it, I wouldn't have it

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

stridemat
Jan 17, 2010, 11:32 AM
I rate my favourite songs 5 stars so they stand out more against all the rest while Im scrolling through iTunes.

bartelby
Jan 17, 2010, 11:36 AM
Nope. Waste of time.

Nope
If I didn't like it, I wouldn't have it



What these two said.

redwarrior
Jan 17, 2010, 11:36 AM
I don't. I have playlists for that. I like all my music. If I didn't, I wouldn't have it on my computer. :)

GGJstudios
Jan 17, 2010, 11:47 AM
Who rates there Music properly?
There's no such thing as rating music "properly". Rating is purely a subjective process. You give high or low ratings, based on your own personal preferences. How can that be improper? I haven't taken the time to start rating my library, but if I do, I can see how it would be helpful.

Many times, I buy an album because I like 2 or 3 songs on it, but there may be songs on the album I don't care for. Adding a low rating to those would help me remember which songs to skip. My library is too large to take on that task now. I'm still working on getting lyrics for as many songs as I can.

smogsy
Jan 17, 2010, 12:05 PM
There's no such thing as rating music "properly". Rating is purely a subjective process. You give high or low ratings, based on your own personal preferences. How can that be improper? I haven't taken the time to start rating my library, but if I do, I can see how it would be helpful.

Many times, I buy an album because I like 2 or 3 songs on it, but there may be songs on the album I don't care for. Adding a low rating to those would help me remember which songs to skip. My library is too large to take on that task now. I'm still working on getting lyrics for as many songs as I can.

when i mean properly ive seen people Just Rate every song 5 even if they dont like they just do it for looks.. :p

J the Ninja
Jan 17, 2010, 12:21 PM
I rate my songs...well, the ones I care enough to rate. I have a little smart playlist that pulls all the songs with 5 stars. I can just load that up and hit shuffle. Best radio station EVAR. :P

I have tons and tons of songs that aren't rated though, because I only sort of like them. Most of the songs that have ratings below 4 or 5 stars are on an album I otherwise like.

hollerz
Jan 17, 2010, 01:10 PM
I like to listen to my music by albums, so I have all my albums rated. My favourite albums are rated 5*, and then I have a smart playlist collecting all 5* albums which I put on my iPhone.

I don't bother rating individual songs, don't really see the point.

xlii
Jan 17, 2010, 01:15 PM
Nope
If I didn't like it, I wouldn't have it

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

Same here. What's the point of rating your music? If you bought it... that means at one time you liked it. But you do know it. Sometimes we like fast music... sometimes slow... sometimes soft... sometimes loud... sometimes happy... sometimes sad. I don't rate for the very reason that I would have to rate my music differently depending on how I felt at that moment.

roadbloc
Jan 17, 2010, 01:40 PM
I used to when i first started digitising music when I was on Windows. Since I've converted to mac and iTunes didnt pick up the ratings, I CBA!

SpaceKitty
Jan 17, 2010, 02:00 PM
I rate my most favorite songs five stars on my iPod and put them into a playlist for my iPhone so that I always have my most favorite songs on my phone. I also have another playlist on my phone that is just for songs that I have listened to on my iPod over the last year. I've made it for the last year because I don't play my iPod too often but it includes about 2000 songs.

yetanotherdave
Jan 17, 2010, 02:13 PM
Yes, I needed a way of slimming down my music to a collection that would fit on my iphone,
my system is
5* my favourite songs, these don't get skipped, awesome songs
4* good songs ones I like but aren't absolute favourite songs.
3* ok songs. I like them alright, but they're not particularly standout
2* mostly the filler from albums. I own the whole album, and will sometimes listen to the whole album, but it's not a song I will go to.
1* the crap that I will never normally want to listen to, but otherwise would have a gap in an album / music videos that I don't want to get into my playlists / audiobooks / other things that I don't want to listen to in everyday situations but still want like christmas albums.
My iphone has everything 4* and 5*, and of the 3* stuff I have about a gig randomly selected by "last played(longest ago)" to keep a rotating mix on there.
I've rated about 4500 out of about 8500 songs so far...

c-Row
Jan 20, 2010, 02:26 AM
Not too different from my own rating scheme.

5 stars - this is the cream of the crop! I would never skip these.
4 stars - great songs, but just not good enough for five stars.
3 stars - ok-ish - good background music, but nothing spectacular
2 stars - I would certainly skip that
1 star - the worst of them all

I like to have all my music in my library, no matter how bad it is. While I don't buy bad albums on purpose, sometimes a song just stands out in whatever direction and I don't want to end up with albums that look like a slice of swiss cheese. That, and sometimes a 2 star song in an otherwise great DJ mix set is easier to bear than a harsh transition if it's omitted completely.

ntrigue
Jan 20, 2010, 02:30 AM
Yes, I needed a way of slimming down my music to a collection that would fit on my iphone,
my system is
5* my favourite songs, these don't get skipped, awesome songs
4* good songs ones I like but aren't absolute favourite songs.
3* ok songs. I like them alright, but they're not particularly standout
2* mostly the filler from albums. I own the whole album, and will sometimes listen to the whole album, but it's not a song I will go to.
1* the crap that I will never normally want to listen to, but otherwise would have a gap in an album / music videos that I don't want to get into my playlists / audiobooks / other things that I don't want to listen to in everyday situations but still want like christmas albums.
My iphone has everything 4* and 5*, and of the 3* stuff I have about a gig randomly selected by "last played(longest ago)" to keep a rotating mix on there.
I've rated about 4500 out of about 8500 songs so far...

+1

instaxgirl
Jan 20, 2010, 05:35 AM
I rate my songs...well, the ones I care enough to rate. I have a little smart playlist that pulls all the songs with 5 stars. I can just load that up and hit shuffle.

This. Anything rated 4/5 goes into it. Makes shuffling a bit less hit and miss than when it's randomly selecting from 4000 songs.

There's another playlist for anything rated 1 star. I listen to everything on my iPod so when I plug it in to sync that playlist shows me the songs I thought were awful and I take them off my iPod/delete them from the library.

mscriv
Jan 20, 2010, 08:42 AM
I haven't gotten into using the ratings. I use playlist to highlight preferences or set up mood or specific purpose mixes.

mstrze
Jan 20, 2010, 09:00 AM
I don't rate.

To limit what I have on my iPhone I actually made an "iPhone" playlist and dragged my favorites to it. :cool:

kirky29
Jan 20, 2010, 10:46 AM
Yup, I do.
They all lead to my Smart Playlists, AKA, 5 stars automatically go into '5 Star Songs'. Same for 4 stars. 2 & 3 stars go into 3 stars. But, I don't rate 1 star. No point.

This is the same for iPhoto.

Smart Folders/Playlists/Albums were the best thing to ever be made. :)

scotty96LSC
Jan 20, 2010, 01:09 PM
i rate mine just to help with different playlists. Sometimes I want to include "rated" ones and others no.

aerial77
Jan 20, 2010, 01:15 PM
Yes i rate mine - i have a bit of a "system" going which helps keep everything organised:

5* - Favorite tracks which i never want to delete. Many of these go into smart playlists (eg 5* Madonna, 5* Bowie, 5* 80's, etc)
4* - Also good but don't always want to listen to
3* - Ok tracks
2* - Tracks i want to take off my iPod/iPhone after the next sync (but aren't so bad that i want to delete) and are therefore "unchecked" and so not synced the next time. Also includes duplicates or itunes purchases that i don't want delete, and this way they can always be added again.
1* - Tracks that i either want to delete (and would happily never hear again), or tracks that have tags the need editing, or missing artwork etc.

I find this system works and makes it easy to "weed-out" the crap and helps keep everything in order so i'm not constantly skipping tracks on my iPod. My library is pretty big (80gb+) so i need something.

dXTC
Jan 20, 2010, 02:03 PM
I don't use Rating; as stated before, it's subjective and susceptible to change in time.

Instead, I sync two playlists to my nano: one with songs I consider essential (called Essentials, natch) and the other a subset randomized from those tracks not in Essentials. I re-randomize it every couple of weeks to keep my content mix fresh, and usually listen by shuffling all tracks. This way, as J the Ninja puts it, is like the Best Radio Station EVAR.

I also occasionally examine a "non-Essentials" list for play counts/skip counts to see if any might qualify as Essential. If so, I add it.

instaxgirl
Jan 20, 2010, 07:09 PM
I don't rate.

To limit what I have on my iPhone I actually made an "iPhone" playlist and dragged my favorites to it. :cool:

Yeah I used to do this. But it's easier just to sync Top Rated, Recently Added then the artists where I know I want the whole album/s even if I don't want all of it on the Top Rated playlist.

Consultant
Jan 21, 2010, 01:08 AM
Yes.

DJs rate their music.

Yes, I needed a way of slimming down my music to a collection that would fit on my iphone,
my system is
5* my favourite songs, these don't get skipped, awesome songs
4* good songs ones I like but aren't absolute favourite songs.
3* ok songs. I like them alright, but they're not particularly standout
2* mostly the filler from albums. I own the whole album, and will sometimes listen to the whole album, but it's not a song I will go to.
1* the crap that I will never normally want to listen to, but otherwise would have a gap in an album / music videos that I don't want to get into my playlists / audiobooks / other things that I don't want to listen to in everyday situations but still want like christmas albums.
My iphone has everything 4* and 5*, and of the 3* stuff I have about a gig randomly selected by "last played(longest ago)" to keep a rotating mix on there.
I've rated about 4500 out of about 8500 songs so far...

Pretty much the same. It's the logical way to do it. =)

Techhie
Jan 21, 2010, 01:10 AM
Pretty much the same. It's the logical way to do it. =)

Logical, but not practical if you haven't done so from the beginning. (depending of course on the size of your library :D)

rcha101
Jan 21, 2010, 03:05 AM
Who rates there Music properly? for example giving different stars do the music they like,

im asking as on another forum i go on, i said im rating mine they thought it was a waste,

do you rate your music & why?


These days I do use ratings extensively. I started using them because I wanted to create a playlist with recently added music which I was still deciding whether I liked it or not. Sometimes I need to listen to a song a few times before I make up my mind. What I did was I rated all my current music and then created a new playlist called 'Unrated' which contains only songs that don't have a rating. Once I know I've listened to all the songs in this playlist a few times I know I can delete any songs that still have a rating of zero stars. I also have a '20 most highly rated' playlist for listening to my favourite songs.

bdj33ranch
Jan 21, 2010, 09:37 AM
I rate mine
I have smart playlists that pick out
5 stars
4 and 5 stars
3 stars
2 stars
I typically assign everything in a new album with 3 stars. I have a smart playlist that pulls in all songs with 3 stars that has been played fewer than 4 times. I will listen to that smart playlist and reassign a star value in my iPod as necessary. If I don't change the star value it automaticlly drops out of the new album playlist and into the regular 3 star playlist after it has played 3 times.
I use 2 stars for non-songs.
I do use 1 star but only with new album songs as a way to quickly sort when syncing with my music library so I can blow them away.

skruggie
Jan 21, 2010, 09:42 AM
I agree with the others, ratings are an essential part of my smart playlist criteria.

dmmcintyre3
Jan 21, 2010, 10:24 AM
If the song is a fav I do

Le Big Mac
Jan 21, 2010, 10:35 AM
+1

+2.

Ratings are invaluable for smart playlists.

But if you don't use smart playlists I don't think it's worth it just for your own information. I know what I like, but iTunes doesn't.

myyours
Jan 21, 2010, 02:28 PM
I had a major breakthrough when I stopped using the ratings system as a way of saying how much I like a song, and started using it as a way of saying how frequently I want to hear a song.

5 Stars - Once a month
4 Stars - Once every 3 months
3 Stars - Twice a year
2 Stars - Once a year
1 Star - Once in a blue moon

And then I setup a series of smart playlists that creates one master playlist.

1. 5 Stars + "Not played in the last 30 days" (Limit: 200 songs)
2. 4 Stars + "Not played in the last 90 days" (Limit: 450 songs)
3. 3 Stars + "Not played in the last 6 months" (Limit: 225 songs)
4. 2 Stars + "Not played in the last 12 months" (Limit: 50 songs)
5. 1 Star + "Not played in the last 24 months" (Limit: 25 songs)
6. New/Unrated (Limit: 75 songs)

There's no scientific formula for why I chose those particular limits. Mostly they're pretty proportional to what my entire library looks like.

This method ensures that I always have a playlist of "fresh" music, so I don't get burned out on the same songs over and over. I found that if I listened exclusively to 5 star songs, eventually, I'd get sick of some of them and they'll get dropped to 4-star or 3-star songs. This method prevents that.

Galley
Jan 21, 2010, 09:56 PM
I rate songs based on their highest chart position:

5 stars: Top 10
4-1/2 stars: 11-40
4 stars: 41-100
3-1/2 stars: 100+, or above average album tracks
3 stars: average album tracks
2 stars: below average album tracks
1 star: utter crap (remixes, etc.)

HBOC
Jan 22, 2010, 10:26 PM
I rate my music as i listen to it. I am not going to go through all my music (9500 songs), but i do rate them as they come on. I do that usually when i am traveling with my MBP.

Razeus
Jan 29, 2010, 09:34 AM
I beginning to use ratings. I'm an album guy and will buy the entire album instead of just a song or two. With that said, the ratings help when I want the best songs from an album to sync. For instance, I have every album Mary J. Blige has put out. But my playlist that I sync to my iPhone is her 5 star songs.

They help when I'm putting together a playlist of my best hip hop or jazz albums.

mzd
Jan 29, 2010, 10:13 AM
i do. everything starts at two stars and then moves up or down depending on how much i like the song. i use these ratings in a couple smart playlists. i'm pretty casual about it though. like when i think of it, i'll add a star, but not obsessively.

[edit] there are some great ideas for smart playlists in this thread. thanks!

jmkvienna
Jan 29, 2010, 10:26 AM
I have almost 6,000 tracks of music. Yes, of course I like them all or I wouldn't have it on my iPod/iPhone/iTunes library. But for most of us, some songs are more equal than others. I tend to rate at the5, 4, and occasionally 3 star level so the vast majority of my music is not rated at all. Because this creates an instant playlist ("my top rated") if there are times I just want to listen to songs I especially like to hear and not catch the in-between stuff, I can choose that playlist.

And the ratings are not permamently fixed. There are certainly songs I rated highly when I first got iTunes in '04 which I have downgraded or unrated over time. But I find the stars a useful tool.

eRondeau
Jan 29, 2010, 10:48 AM
I'm shocked that more members here don't take advantage of star ratings! I've got over 7,500 songs and every one is rated when it's imported or purchased. (All have album art and most have lyrics too!) My definitions are identical to yetanotherdave's. It give amazing versatility to Smart Playlists when combined with other criteria. For example five-star songs that haven't been played in a month; two-star songs that have never been played; favourite live concert recordings; best beach party songs; best Halloween songs. It's one thing to have 5,000 songs in there somewhere -- but it's something else to have music that you can easily find, sort, and enjoy. :apple:

alphaod
Jan 29, 2010, 11:20 AM
I don't rate… and I don't use playlists either (not permanent ones at least)

mingoglia
Jan 29, 2010, 11:30 AM
I only use the 4 start and 5 star rating. This of course are my very favorite songs. The other songs if I want to search them out and listen to them I will but typically don't bother rating them.

Mike

steezy1337
Jan 29, 2010, 07:57 PM
i don't have my own system, i use Autorate because there's a good 12000+ songs on there. i think Autorate calculates it by play + skip frequency, which i reckon gives a good indication of how much i like the songs. i have quite a varied collection of music because i refuse to delete music just because my tastes may be changing.