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R10
Feb 5, 2010, 12:06 AM
I am not a scientist, and I am not a brain surgeon, but why in the world offer 100,000 plus apps and let us only have 144 of them?

Apple, if you are listening, unlock the apps store for those of us that realise it is good business to use your apps in our business. One app alone made me $200 today. I need more room for apps, and the thought of jail breaking my devices is something I do not want to do.

Please tell me there can be a thousand or more apps in the iPad.



drjsway
Feb 5, 2010, 12:34 AM
I am not a scientist, and I am not a brain surgeon, but why in the world offer 100,000 plus apps and let us only have 144 of them?

Apple, if you are listening, unlock the apps store for those of us that realise it is good business to use your apps in our business. One app alone made me $200 today. I need more room for apps, and the thought of jail breaking my devices is something I do not want to do.

Please tell me there can be a thousand or more apps in the iPad.

The iPhone doesn't even have a 144 max. It's limited to 11 screens but all you need to do is go to spotlight to find them.

Sketh
Feb 5, 2010, 12:47 AM
I have proposed a category like approach to fixing app limits on the springboard and also clutter:

Employing the same technique used in the new Photos App, one could pinch out a grid of apps that they assemble, which would keep page counts down, and add a kind of "Stacks" like functionality to the desktop.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1zbz96a.png

When you pinch out:

http://i50.tinypic.com/20arip0.png

WytRaven
Feb 5, 2010, 12:51 AM
Despite thinking it will be unnecessary for such an app you've gotta love that name "Appstache" :D

Sketh
Feb 5, 2010, 12:52 AM
Despite thinking it will be unnecessary for such an app you've gotta love that name "Appstache" :D

"Appstache" is my "companies" name. and by "company" I mean what I call myself when I do designs and UI for apps/programs, or wallpapers, or..... App Editing in the piracy scene.

R10
Feb 5, 2010, 02:54 AM
Spotlight? File names are often diffrent than icon names.

Abyssgh0st
Feb 5, 2010, 03:06 AM
Spotlight recognizes both filenames and application names.

Ex: Spotlight search for the application 10,500+ Cool Facts finds the application, which simply is CoolFacts. It pulls up this application after simply typing in 10,500 and nothing else.

yodaxl7
Feb 5, 2010, 03:18 AM
I have proposed a category like approach to fixing app limits on the springboard and also clutter:

Employing the same technique used in the new Photos App, one could pinch out a grid of apps that they assemble, which would keep page counts down, and add a kind of "Stacks" like functionality to the desktop.



When you pinch out:



Well, the ipad has photos in stacks!! They should do the apps in stacks, too. Plus, we can title the stacks as page 1,2.. or games, utility, ettc.

wackymacky
Feb 5, 2010, 03:20 AM
I am not a scientist, and I am not a brain surgeon, but why in the world offer 100,000 plus apps and let us only have 144 of them?

Apple, if you are listening, unlock the apps store for those of us that realise it is good business to use your apps in our business. One app alone made me $200 today. I need more room for apps, and the thought of jail breaking my devices is something I do not want to do.

Please tell me there can be a thousand or more apps in the iPad.

Ummm. If your Desk-top that you syc with has enough space, canít you can have as may Apps as you like?

And just sync the ones youíre currently using.

I've got about 40 apps currently loaded on my phone and really, it's more than I need most of the time.

Iím sure Iíve downloaded over 144 Apps onto my Mac.

northernbaldy
Feb 5, 2010, 03:25 AM
ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR APPS!

christ on a bike! I refuse to believe that you regularly use 144 apps

greygray
Feb 5, 2010, 03:29 AM
It's supposed to be 162 applications on 11 screens, not 144.

Abyssgh0st
Feb 5, 2010, 03:32 AM
How do you figure?

4x4=16. 16 apps per screen.
11x16=176.
4 apps in the dock, at all times=180.

R10
Feb 5, 2010, 05:34 AM
I have 200 plus apps, and I want all my apps available so I can easily work with them. Once the iPad comes out, I expect my apps will double as I do more and more work on my iPad and less and less on my computer.

As an artist, no small set of apps does all I want done, I often find myself using several apps to do one job.

maflynn
Feb 5, 2010, 06:14 AM
I have 200 plus apps, and I want all my apps available so I can easily work with them. so you use 200 plus apps on a daily basis?

As an artist, no small set of apps does all I want done, I often find myself using several apps to do one job.
Then an iPad may not be the best fit for your needs. I have a lot of apps for the iPhone, but only a subset are on the iPhone at any given time. I can sync daily and I have a need I'll make sure I have what I'm expecting. I do find it hard to believe that people need instant access to over 200 apps, but hey, that's your needs. If the iPad has similar constraints to the iPhone then as I mentioned perhaps something else may be better fit.

Chupa Chupa
Feb 5, 2010, 08:08 AM
Maybe I'm missing something but why would you need 144 apps on your iPad/iPhone/Touch on any given day for this to be an issue? Heck, I don't have 144 apps on any of my Macs (for a reason too -- I hate clutter and wasting valuable storage space). Maybe this is a problem for a small few tortured by a "pack rat" mentality (you know, people that still have buckets of Pogs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogs)in the dresser drawer), but I think most people have a dozen or so "go to" apps and another dozen or so "occasional use" apps.

And, yes, there are 100K apps, but many duplicate each other in fuction, and then tons of useless junk like farters and 3rd rate games. Boil it down and there is not anywhere near 100K useful apps. It's just a handy advertising gimmick.

r0k
Feb 5, 2010, 09:36 AM
I am on the verge of hitting the 11 screen limit. I have 10 screens all filled up. The very next screen I download will start an 11th screen for me.

Quite a few of my apps are turkeys that should get deleted but I've only deleted a handful. I've already blown away the pathetic tap tap that insists on popping up nag screens about music I don't care about. I know about the ability to use spotlight to search apps but now that I'm no the verge of "running out" I think I'll spend some time deleting "cruft" apps I never use or rarely use.

I'd prefer if there were no "limit" and that there were unlimited app pages but in all honesty, I can figure out how to either use spotlight or live within the 180 app icon display limit. When I get an iPad, this might change. I might decide I need more apps. For those who like icons, Apple might decide to offer more "pages".

But the way I access all of my apps on my desktop at home is by spotlight. I almost never browse to the applications folder. I only have about 20 shortcuts in my Dock and I frequently dump apps from my dock if I haven't used them in a few weeks. For me Apple doesn't have to change anything to allow me to use more than 180 apps on the iPad because spotlight is already my preferred method of launching things on my Mac. One thing I like about spotlight better on the desktop is it is always there. On the iPhone/iPod Touch, spotlight gets its own screen. I would not having to go to a "special screen" to use spotlight on the iPad, but otherwise for my needs, spotlight is good enough.

I like spotlight so much I also have launchy on my pathetic and slow windows box at the office but I leave launchy disabled so our pathetic and slow IT people don't blame me when my pathetic and slow computer acts up. Did I mention that the best Apple commercial I see every day is my pathetic and slow windows box at the office?

t0mat0
Feb 5, 2010, 09:38 AM
I thought one of the OS updates meant that you could have more apps, than displayed - you just used the search function to find the off screen apps?

lordhamster
Feb 5, 2010, 10:14 AM
The apps I use on a regular basis fit on a single page. The apps I NEED fit on the dock.

Abyssgh0st
Feb 5, 2010, 10:37 AM
OP, you may want to look into the Jailbroken application called Categories. I have about 60 apps, and 40 of them fit in four neat folders, that load very quickly and display icons just like the springboard (you can even keep the folders resident so they open even faster). With categories you are literally limited to how many free GBs you have on your iPhone.

greygray
Feb 5, 2010, 07:19 PM
Apple should give us 15 pages of apps IMO.

TuffLuffJimmy
Feb 5, 2010, 07:24 PM
Apple should give up 15 pages of apps IMO.

How could people possibly get by with less than 16 pages? I need every one of my tip calculators.

admanimal
Feb 5, 2010, 08:09 PM
I also feel like, in theory, iPad apps should be less gimmicky and have more substantial functionality so you won't have 200 1-screen apps that do one small thing.

But then again I am in the camp that only has 3 pages of apps total on their phone, so what do I know.

marksman
Feb 5, 2010, 08:34 PM
My app list has perenially full and beyond.

I have apps I use that I search for.

However out of all these apps there are less than 10 I use with any regularity.

I also challenge someone to claim they use 140+ apps on say at least once a month basis.

That being said, there is no reason why they can't expand the interface to allow for a nearly infinite number of apps to be up beyond just searching for them.

Nebrie
Feb 5, 2010, 09:06 PM
I have proposed a category like approach to fixing app limits on the springboard and also clutter:

Employing the same technique used in the new Photos App, one could pinch out a grid of apps that they assemble, which would keep page counts down, and add a kind of "Stacks" like functionality to the desktop.



When you pinch out:

[*g]

I also imagine that when you hold down an icon to enter edit mode, in place of the next available empty app space is a New Folder with a circled + in the corner and tapping on that icon would ask you to name the new folder or cancel. You could then drag apps into it or click on it to rename it. To rearrange inside that folder you'd have to exit the edit mode, enter the folder and hit edit again but no New Folder option this time.

R10
Feb 5, 2010, 10:54 PM
I cannot believe there are people here complacent with 144 or 176 or whatever the number is. One guy thinks 15 pages should be the magic number.

When you go to the DrudgeReport, do you count the links he has posted and say today he posted too much?

When you go out for pizza, do you go places with a limited menu because it makes you feel more comfortable?

Come on people, why limit something already in our hands?

To the one guy that asked me if I use all 144 apps every day? No.

On the days you do not check your yahoo mail on your PC, do you remove it?

lilo777
Feb 6, 2010, 12:26 AM
I have 200 plus apps, and I want all my apps available so I can easily work with them. Once the iPad comes out, I expect my apps will double as I do more and more work on my iPad and less and less on my computer.

As an artist, no small set of apps does all I want done, I often find myself using several apps to do one job.

Do I get you right that you are an artist doing your job on iPhone? No wonder you need 200 apps. Try using desktop (even laptop will do). I bet you will not need more than 10 applications :D

admanimal
Feb 6, 2010, 01:19 AM
Do I get you right that you are an artist doing your job on iPhone? No wonder you need 200 apps. Try using desktop (even laptop will do). I bet you will not need more than 10 applications :D

What he didn't mention is that the works of art that he creates are billboard-sized collages of iPhone app screenshots. So that pretty much explains everything.

R10
Feb 6, 2010, 04:30 AM
it is a wonderful tool, but it is so limited by the magic number Apple set.

I wonder if they did this to void the warranties of all the JB phones?

Why do people in forums type the words in their heads like they were thinking to themselves? Makes for rude and unpleasant conversations.

chavokpt352
Feb 6, 2010, 07:30 AM
about two years ago you posted a comment about garageband 3 ringtones which instructed to use the purple arrow to signify the end of the ringtone to eliminate about 4 sec of dead air which occurred when we exported the file from garageband to the desktop (making it a .M4a file). What program were you talking about when you referred to the purple arrow and how do i find it? Sorry to take you back but I really appreciate the help.

moppsy
Feb 6, 2010, 10:36 AM
I refuse to believe that you regularly use 144 apps
so you use 200 plus apps on a daily basis?
Maybe I'm missing something but why would you need 144 apps on your iPad/iPhone/Touch on any given day for this to be an issue?

Why does it need to be used frequently to justify an icon?

It is quite silly to think that no one will want 200+ icons available.
Apparently enough wanted more than 144 that Apple added 2 more empty pages. I'm sure that that the additional pages were done as a holdover until a more elegant solution is implemented.

Who wants to have to flick to page 30 implemented how it is now?

nioted
Feb 7, 2010, 10:39 AM
I have proposed a category like approach to fixing app limits on the springboard and also clutter:

Employing the same technique used in the new Photos App, one could pinch out a grid of apps that they assemble, which would keep page counts down, and add a kind of "Stacks" like functionality to the desktop.



When you pinch out:



That is a great idea. I was just thinking of a simple folder system but this way bumps up the cool factor!

For the people who say 'would you ever need 144 or even 200 apps at any one time' have to realize that not everyone sync's there iphone, ipod touch or ipad on a regular basis. Some people dont ever. I am one of those people who maybe connects their iphone to my imac once a month. Also when you have up to 64 gigs of space, you want to be able to install apps and anything else without making the decision of what to leave out this time around when you sync up. All Apple needs to do is to implement a folder system or a stacking system like the new iphotos app. My desktop has very few icons on it and that's how I want my iPad to be like to.

P-Worm
Feb 7, 2010, 11:50 AM
For the people who say 'would you ever need 144 or even 200 apps at any one time' have to realize that not everyone sync's there iphone, ipod touch or ipad on a regular basis. Some people dont ever. I am one of those people who maybe connects their iphone to my imac once a month. Also when you have up to 64 gigs of space, you want to be able to install apps and anything else without making the decision of what to leave out this time around when you sync up. All Apple needs to do is to implement a folder system or a stacking system like the new iphotos app. My desktop has very few icons on it and that's how I want my iPad to be like to.

Spotlight works better than having folders.

P-Worm

Night Spring
Feb 7, 2010, 12:54 PM
Spotlight works better than having folders.

But Spotlight only works if you can remember at least part of the name of an app. I often find that I remember apps by their icons, not their names. When I try to find an app with spotlight, I often get stumped at: "Now what was the name of that price comparison app with a picture of Ben Franklin on the icon????"

aluren
Feb 7, 2010, 01:47 PM
I think the iPhone OS wasn't initially built to host so many apps, so I wouldn't blame Apple. Who knew that in about 2 years, there are 140,000 apps available? I still really liked the current layout, the icons look very sexy and stylish. Imagine if all you see in your home screen is 16 folders, one for each category of apps? That would look ridiculously boring.

So my solution would be a touch sensitive bar on the bottom of the iPhone (where the home button area is). Then we can swipe a finger across it to quickly access the app pages the same way that laptop trackpads have a side scrolling motion recognition to scroll down websites. And if Apple gave us about 20 pages of apps, then this would work for me.

Night Spring
Feb 7, 2010, 02:00 PM
Imagine if all you see in your home screen is 16 folders, one for each category of apps? That would look ridiculously boring.

Not if each folder can have a customized icon, like they do in the jailbreak app Categories. I have an icon of dice for my "Games" folder, a book for my "Books" folder, a magnifying glass for my "References" folder, etc.

TuffLuffJimmy
Feb 7, 2010, 02:06 PM
As an artist, no small set of apps does all I want done, I often find myself using several apps to do one job.You're doing your work on a phone? Care to share some of your masterpieces?
about two years ago you posted a comment about garageband 3 ringtones which instructed to use the purple arrow to signify the end of the ringtone to eliminate about 4 sec of dead air which occurred when we exported the file from garageband to the desktop (making it a .M4a file). What program were you talking about when you referred to the purple arrow and how do i find it? Sorry to take you back but I really appreciate the help.
http://grab.by/2fXO