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foofan
Apr 13, 2010, 08:16 AM
With the other options for an apple laptop or an ipad, why are people buying a MBA? A relative of mine wants a apple laptop badly , so i've been looking at them. I dont see why i would buy an MBA over a macbook pro. Am i missing something?



spinnerlys
Apr 13, 2010, 08:19 AM
Why MacBook Air? (http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=pub-0384375415523482&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fmroogle.edesignuk.com%3BCX%3AMRoogle%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F% 2Fmroogle.edesignuk.com%2FMRoogleSmall.gif%3BLH%3A56%3BLP%3A1%3BVLC%3A%23551A8B%3BDIV%3A%23CCCCCC%3B&as_qdr=all&adkw=AELymgVwguLNvI9D6SUMlb0iz0ly8mb6rvnfADnVBj3E0B3GQqqNT0koLWHY2gCP-diqRKOTjXV5y4XXWJuLAmDILAzbDCOpCMh8-smp8QB269JmyLSm6Ufe-Iyvzfd8GgwFnzGsgSNV3R2YSMBmuyC8oziGYLjbNg&channel=5884338270&boostcse=0&q=why+macbook+air+site%3Aforums.macrumors.com&btnG=Search&cx=011016119145480959114%3Akuv1aq0hily)

Maybe some people don't need the MB(P) and like the MBA, because it offers a smaller and lighter build?

Le Big Mac
Apr 13, 2010, 09:25 AM
Yeah, smaller and lighter.

I think the issue is that the additional cost may be difficult to justify over, say, a 13" MB or MBP, given that the reduction in weight and size is not that significant and you take a performance hit.

So perhaps the better question is "Is it worth paying the price of the MBAir for the somewhat smaller size?"

Cheffy Dave
Apr 13, 2010, 09:56 AM
With the other options for an apple laptop or an ipad, why are people buying a MBA? A relative of mine wants a apple laptop badly , so i've been looking at them. I dont see why i would buy an MBA over a macbook pro. Am i missing something?

if you have to ask, yes you are:o

manhattanboy
Apr 13, 2010, 11:28 AM
With the other options for an apple laptop or an ipad, why are people buying a MBA? A relative of mine wants a apple laptop badly , so i've been looking at them. I dont see why i would buy an MBA over a macbook pro. Am i missing something?

How often do you bring your laptop around with you?

In short, having the Air at least doubles the amount of time you will have a laptop with you.

if you have to ask, yes you are:o

Agreed; but I would not have understood it until I actually had it for some time...

JasG
Apr 13, 2010, 11:35 AM
weight, weight, weight.

nothing else. I need a good or better keyboard, a decent sized screen, and then the lightest possible weight. Nothing beats the AIR (if you like OSX), but I fear I may have to decide what is second best pretty soon. I suspect the AIR may be at the end of the line.

jimboutilier
Apr 13, 2010, 11:57 AM
With the other options for an apple laptop or an ipad, why are people buying a MBA? A relative of mine wants a apple laptop badly , so i've been looking at them. I dont see why i would buy an MBA over a macbook pro. Am i missing something?

Mobility. If you are mobile a lot with a notebook and can live within the MBA limitations (cpu, ram, storage, ports etc) its a phenomenal machine thats a MUCH better mobility experience than the 13" MBP.

Lots of people would be as well or better served with a MBP or MB, but where mobility is the primary factor the MBA is worth taking a look at.

An iPad is an appliance not a general purpose computer as it runs such limited software in such limited ways not really suitable for someone that needs a computer.

splashnader
Apr 13, 2010, 08:12 PM
You can ask these questions all day long. Why an iPad over an iPod. Why a mbp over a mb. Why bother getting a Mac Pro when you can save a bunch of money and just get an iMac with the benefits of being an all in one computer. The whole reason apple has so many different computer models is that they have so many different customers and each person likes something different or values something different. Some people like the Air because it is very light weight, powerful enough for most tasks, and it very attractive to hold and work on. I can tell you that while a 13" Macbook is not a heavy notebook you really can tell the difference by having a MacBook in your lap for an hour, versus having a MacBook Air in your lap for an hour.

Mactagonist
Apr 13, 2010, 09:02 PM
With the other options for an apple laptop or an ipad, why are people buying a MBA? A relative of mine wants a apple laptop badly , so i've been looking at them. I dont see why i would buy an MBA over a macbook pro. Am i missing something?

The MBA is a laptop stripped to its essentials. A good quality screen in the smallest really usable size and resolution. A full size keyboard and a large comfy trackpad. Solid wireless connectivity. Rigid metal design. Pretty good battery life (~4 hours). OSX.

And thats it.

Eliminating all the legacy ports and extraneous slots allowed Apple to make a laptop that really feel effortless to carry and use. If your usage can fit into the Air's limitation it is a great choice.

lily69
Apr 13, 2010, 09:13 PM
With the other options for an apple laptop or an ipad, why are people buying a MBA? A relative of mine wants a apple laptop badly , so i've been looking at them. I dont see why i would buy an MBA over a macbook pro. Am i missing something?

Macbook Pro is very nice however way too heavy for many female users.

Manatee
Apr 13, 2010, 09:27 PM
I have both the Air and a 13" MBP. The difference in weight is only 1.5 lbs, but that's an additional 50% of the weight of the Air when carrying the MBP. The different in weight (and even bulk) is quite apparent to me.

I've retired my Air (a first gen, with 64GB SSD) because it runs scary hot and performance is quirky, but I'd buy a new one immediately if it became available. I'd be happy with the current specs plus 4GB RAM. I'd really like the glass track pad too, if possible.

The Air is just a sweet piece to carry, and I can do most of my office work on it, and even run my full Eclipse-based development environment on it. I don't miss built-in cellular in my Macs since I carry a Mifi.

myuserid08
Apr 14, 2010, 05:28 AM
Its a stupid question really, why do you think its called an "AIR"?

I bought one because I travel a lot and dont want to be hulking a 5.6 pound laptop around, simple!

Kwill
Apr 14, 2010, 07:13 AM
And the answer is...

...The whole reason apple has so many different computer models is that they have so many different customers and each person likes something different or values something different.

The OP question is akin to asking: 'What's the appeal of the 17" MBP since there are smaller models that essentially do the same thing.'

...why do you think its called an "AIR"

Agreed. Different machines for specific tasks.

foofan
Apr 14, 2010, 08:01 AM
for $1000 less, I can get an ipad, which seems to be the new MBA

Mactagonist
Apr 14, 2010, 08:59 AM
for $1000 less, I can get an ipad, which seems to be the new MBA

What makes you think that?

darngooddesign
Apr 14, 2010, 09:40 AM
for $1000 less, I can get an ipad, which seems to be the new MBA

iPad is the new MacBook Air*, but it is not a MBA**.

* Its the new ultraportable machine from Apple.

** The Air is a more powerful and does more computer-related tasks while the Pad is more for for watching, reading and browsing.

lucifiel
Apr 22, 2010, 12:20 AM
iPad is the new MacBook Air*, but it is not a MBA**.

* Its the new ultraportable machine from Apple.

** The Air is a more powerful and does more computer-related tasks while the Pad is more for for watching, reading and browsing.

i like that classification actually.

gwsat
Apr 22, 2010, 09:52 AM
i like that classification actually.
I thought it was a good analysis, too. I recently bought an iPad instead of an MBA. I did so, however, only because the software I habitually run, including Fusion and Windows 7 in Unity mode, meant that the MBA, with its 2Gb RAM limitation, wouldn't work for me. The danger for anyone considering an iPad is that they expect it to do too much. Although the iPad is smaller, lighter, easier to handle, and a bunch cheaper than the MBA, there is a lot it won't do. That's why it's very important to consider that, when you get beyond Web browsing and reading, the iPad has significant limitations. It's an ultra portable device, as is the MBA. As such, both have strengths and weaknesses and its up to the prospective buyer to decide before buying either which strengths are more important and which weaknesses less so.

Powierski
Apr 23, 2010, 02:25 PM
Hi ... first post from a long time Apple user.

The appeal of the Air to me is simply the weight, how thin, I like the way it looks.

I'm a Photographer and have a Mac Pro as my main machine for doing the heavy work, Last week I bought an i7 Macbook Pro and the moment I got home I felt it was the wrong purchase .... reasons? it was too heavy and too big to pack in to a bag along with two camera bodies, lenses, etc etc. I stuck with it for a week and tried to convince myself otherwise and felt it was overkill. I don't need that much power in a notebook and I wouldn't want to edit hundreds of images on a 15" screen.

So what did I need? A light weight, reasonably powerful, quick, robust notebook. Something I can pick up and move away from my desk and sit on the sofa or out in the garden .... it had to run OSX as I have too much invested in applications to switch OS .... plus I really enjoy using OSX over Windows. Now all of the above features could be had in a 13" MacBook Pro with more power and less money .... but still heavier and not as comfortable to use in my opinion. I genuinely feel that the MacBook Air for laptop use has better ergonomics with the keyboard area being lower profile and not requiring my wrists to rest on the edge of the casing like they did on the MacBook Pro.

I returned my MBP Pro and took an Air instead and absolutely love it .... I'm comfortable with the fact I paid nearly 400 more than the more powerful base level MBP Pro, I'm comfortable with only having one USB port and no built in superdrive, I'm comfortable in admitting that looks were a deciding factor ;) .... who can honestly say they don't take aesthetics in to account when making any kind of purchase?

I'm completely happy with my purchase of a MacBook Air ...

gwsat
Apr 23, 2010, 04:45 PM
Hi ... first post from a long time Apple user.

The appeal of the Air to me is simply the weight, how thin, I like the way it looks.

I'm a Photographer and have a Mac Pro as my main machine for doing the heavy work, Last week I bought an i7 Macbook Pro and the moment I got home I felt it was the wrong purchase .... reasons? it was too heavy and too big to pack in to a bag along with two camera bodies, lenses, etc etc. I stuck with it for a week and tried to convince myself otherwise and felt it was overkill. I don't need that much power in a notebook and I wouldn't want to edit hundreds of images on a 15" screen.

So what did I need? A light weight, reasonably powerful, quick, robust notebook. Something I can pick up and move away from my desk and sit on the sofa or out in the garden .... it had to run OSX as I have too much invested in applications to switch OS .... plus I really enjoy using OSX over Windows. Now all of the above features could be had in a 13" MacBook Pro with more power and less money .... but still heavier and not as comfortable to use in my opinion. I genuinely feel that the MacBook Air for laptop use has better ergonomics with the keyboard area being lower profile and not requiring my wrists to rest on the edge of the casing like they did on the MacBook Pro.

I returned my MBP Pro and took an Air instead and absolutely love it .... I'm comfortable with the fact I paid nearly 400 more than the more powerful base level MBP Pro, I'm comfortable with only having one USB port and no built in superdrive, I'm comfortable in admitting that looks were a deciding factor ;) .... who can honestly say they don't take aesthetics in to account when making any kind of purchase?

I'm completely happy with my purchase of a MacBook Air ...
As long as you are satisfied that the MBA's 2Gb of RAM will be enough for your purposes, I think you will likely be very happy with it. But for its limited RAM, I would have bought an MBA, too, but didn't for the reasons stated in my last post. As nice as the MBPs are, they are significantly thicker and heavier than the very svelte MBA. Enjoy!

alphaod
Apr 23, 2010, 05:31 PM
It's a ultraportable computer from Apple; that's it; it gets the job done at a minimalist way. Sure it lacks a lot of connectivity, but altogether it works.

for $1000 less, I can get an ipad, which seems to be the new MBA

And for another $500 less than that, I can walk to the library to read books, go online, check my emails, but it doesn't make an iPad.

Scottsdale
Apr 23, 2010, 07:50 PM
And for another $500 less than that, I can walk to the library to read books, go online, check my emails, but it doesn't make an iPad.

WONDERFUL POST!

PsyD4Me
Apr 23, 2010, 10:35 PM
the fact that i can run professional grade software on it, light PS work, SPSS, and still carry it with two fingers

tigres
Apr 25, 2010, 01:53 PM
For many the MBA is the finest portable machine made. Fits the bill in all of my uses to date. The sexy part helps all the more.

dunbar.will
Apr 25, 2010, 03:45 PM
I've already saved the price difference in chiropractor bills.
(as a student, I carry the MBA everywhere, and even the smallish weight difference totally changed my life.)

Spacekatgal
Apr 25, 2010, 06:16 PM
Macbook Pro is very nice however way too heavy for many female users.

I have to totally agree with this. I love mine so much!

Bri

grapemac
Apr 26, 2010, 10:48 AM
The appeal for me is the thinness, the weight, the lack of ports, the energy use, the material, and the fact that the RAM, hard disk, graphics, trackpad, battery and iLife package are an improvement over my current 2008 MacBook.

The appeal for me over a new MBP (or MB) are the first 4 (or 5) items on that list. The last items attract me to getting one before I really need to.

I hate waste and excess. Basically, I only want to own things with the bare minimum of details so that they barely exist. I only own one USB device; my iPhone. I don't own anything that requires a Line In socket or a Firewire port. I currently have a 250GB hard drive of which I've used less than 60GB in over 2 years.

I was a fool to have spent more money than necessary on my current MacBook. When I look at it, I see waste. At 5lbs, it's a pain in the ass to carry around university/the city when I love to travel light and free. 7 ports on the side and I only use 1 of them frequently; 3 of them have never been touched. Plus, I am firmly in the Apple ecosystem; music and rented movies from iTunes and wireless backup to Time Capsule and MobileMe, so that optical drive is not missed. More software should be available for download however, such as iWork, which can't be downloaded with education discount.

Saying all of this however, I would put off buying one until 4GB RAM is available. USB 3.0 would be nice too, and 10.7, just to make it a whole new computer from the one I currently own.

But the MBA is an incredibly attractive computer for someone who doesn't need great specs or a multitude of ports but wants MacOS X and those trackpad gestures. I also believe people need to be much more honest with themselves and really think what specs they NEED from their computer. Sure, this argument doesn't work well for the MBA since the price is higher for lower specs at the moment (I imagine the price will continue to drop), but in general. Between a MB and a MBP, do you really need that MBP?

tldizard
Apr 26, 2010, 11:23 AM
I can't speak for the general public as to why the MacBook Air is a worthwhile purchase, but I can give you my own anecdotal experience.

I wanted a mac more than anything, but for years, I could not get a system with a weight below 4lbs. iBook 12" was as close as I could get and it was still just too heavy. So I was stuck using a Toshiba Portege R200. It was thin, light, but Windows XP and a horribly bloated driver set. Ick.

Why was weight such an issue? I have a mobility impairment and I need the thinnest, lightest notebook available on the market, otherwise it's' just a small-form-factor desktop. But at the same time, I do not want to compromise processing power and storage for weight.

The MacBook Air fits my needs perfectly. I bought the June Rev. B with the 2.13GHz and SSD and it is hands-down the best computer I have ever owned. The form factor makes it easy for me to pick up and carry from the server room to a meeting, independently, and I still have a full-featured system, versus the compromises required by a hackintosh netbook.

I know that my reasons are not the same as others who buy an MBA, but I am ever grateful that Apple finally produced a portable that met my needs.

jk1002
Apr 26, 2010, 11:57 AM
Personally I do not like the glossy displays, I have to work on it many hours a day and with a matte display it is the cheapest Apple option there is.

stoconnell
Apr 26, 2010, 10:04 PM
Personally I do not like the glossy displays, I have to work on it many hours a day and with a matte display it is the cheapest Apple option there is.

The MBAs display is gloss; it's just not glass. ;)

stewie1
Apr 28, 2010, 01:58 PM
I just got back from my first business trip with the Air and I fell in love with this machine. Slipped into my briefcase with my papers and folders (no computer bag needed). Sat on my lap in the train for about 3 hours during the course of the day and worked like a champ. Battery held up great. It was nice to have a large screen and full size keyboard as opposed to the crappy netbooks my company usually sets us up with.

all in all, a very worthwhile purchase. Looking forward to a couple more trips with this computer in the next few weeks.

mrboult
Apr 29, 2010, 12:13 PM
Yes the Air is Light and easy to take with you, BUT.

If you want to use it for more than 4 hours you'll need the charger too !!

With it's 10 hour battery life perhaps the new 13" MBP is the new laptop for those who are always on the go?

gwsat
Apr 29, 2010, 01:30 PM
Yes the Air is Light and easy to take with you, BUT.

If you want to use it for more than 4 hours you'll need the charger too !!

With it's 10 hour battery life perhaps the new 13" MBP is the new laptop for those who are always on the go?
I was thinking the same thing. Obviously, the MBA has a far sleeker form factor and is 1.5 pounds lighter than is the 13 inch MBP. I agree, though, that the 13 inch MBP's 10 hour battery life is twice that of the MBA, which makes it hugely appealing. I've had my finger on the order button at Amazon for the 13 inch MBP a couple of times but haven't quite been able to press it. I guess I'll just keep waiting for awhile longer to see what Apple does in the way of refreshing the MBA -- that is if they do anything.