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amyhre
Sep 19, 2004, 04:36 PM
I'm looking at buying a PowerBook, possibly used. I'd like the backlit keyboard, but not sure that will be possible if I buy say a 1.33 GHz that hadn't been purchased with that option. I guess what I'm wondering is, if I get a PowerBook that doesn't have backlit, can I buy a backlit keyboard later on and install it or something?
Nawlins
Sep 19, 2004, 04:57 PM
The keyboards on iBooks are removable, but the keyboards on Powerbooks are not. I think that's why the keys on iBooks are a bit softer. So, I don't think you can get a backlit keyboard installed unless you call Apple, cancel your order, and order another Powerbook with the backlit keyboard as a built to order option.
Alex
quagmire
Sep 19, 2004, 05:12 PM
The keyboards on iBooks are removable, but the keyboards on Powerbooks are not. I think that's why the keys on iBooks are a bit softer. So, I don't think you can get a backlit keyboard installed unless you call Apple, cancel your order, and order another Powerbook with the backlit keyboard as a built to order option.
Alex
Actually you can remove the keyboard on the pbooks. You have to remove 2-4 F keys(which ones I forgot) they have screws under them. You unscrew them and off goes the keyboard. I will be back on which keys. But, you can not replace the keyboard with the backlit.
EDIT: You have to remove the F1,F2,F11, and F12 keys with a small flat head screw driver
KevRC4130
Sep 19, 2004, 06:39 PM
But, you can not replace the keyboard with the backlit.
EDIT: You have to remove the F1,F2,F11, and F12 keys with a small flat head screw driver
Why not? Aren't the keyboards on all sizes identical?
quagmire
Sep 19, 2004, 06:47 PM
Why not? Aren't the keyboards on all sizes identical?
Not enough room to fit the lights, sensors, and all the wires that will control the backlit keyboard.
Macmaniac
Sep 19, 2004, 06:49 PM
If I am not completely mistaken the backlit Keyboard models use different top cases to accommodate the backlighting strips, the light sensors, etc...
Elan0204
Sep 19, 2004, 11:16 PM
Actually you can remove the keyboard on the pbooks. You have to remove 2-4 F keys(which ones I forgot) they have screws under them. You unscrew them and off goes the keyboard. I will be back on which keys. But, you can not replace the keyboard with the backlit.
EDIT: You have to remove the F1,F2,F11, and F12 keys with a small flat head screw driver
I didn't realize that was possible on the new PowerBooks. I thought all keyboard replacements had to go through Apple now. Although, users have posted that when their keyboard went bad they had to send the computer in to Apple, so maybe it still isn't considered a customer installable part, even though it sounds pretty easy to do (assuming you don't have backlights).
JFreak
Sep 20, 2004, 01:15 AM
I'm looking at buying a PowerBook, possibly used. I'd like the backlit keyboard, but not sure that will be possible if I buy say a 1.33 GHz that hadn't been purchased with that option. I guess what I'm wondering is, if I get a PowerBook that doesn't have backlit, can I buy a backlit keyboard later on and install it or something?
it might be POSSIBLE to let apple install the backlit afterwards, but i suspect this would cost you a lot more than if you just purchased such a powerbook that already has it. so don't try to cut corners here.
i'd like to add that having owned titanium and aluminum powerbooks, i actually prefer the titanium keyboard in good light. it is a lot easier to read white letters from black background than dark grey letters from light grey background; it's all about contrast; however, nothing beats the backlit keyboard in a dark room - i just love it. and in dark room aluminum's keyboard is kind of useless without the backlight...
so... just put in the money to get the good keyboard. it's worth it.
earthtoandy
Sep 20, 2004, 01:41 AM
i just wish they had it in the 12":\
cb911
Sep 20, 2004, 06:41 AM
if you really want to have a backlit keyboard... you can do it yourself. there's a site out there that shows how a guy added a 'backlit' keyboard to his iBook (or might have been a PB). i think that site was Apple Fritter, just search and ye should find it.
homerjward
Sep 20, 2004, 07:36 AM
here (http://lowendmac.com/bookrev/02/0920.html#17)'s a kit to put a backlit keyboard on a tibook. it's not the same backlight and doesn't have the ambient light sensor but it is a backlight and it is for a keyboard
criana
Sep 24, 2004, 01:55 PM
What about this? It's the actual part number of the backlit keyboard and this site sells it.
http://mac-pro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=pbtikey15b&Category_Code=pp
Replacement Apple Keyboard for PowerBook G4 15" Aluminum- BackLit #922-6105
Quantity in Basket:none
Code: pbtikey15b
Price:$137.77
Shipping Weight: 1.50 pounds
Apple Replacement Keyboard for PowerBook G4 15" aluminum 1.25 Ghz.
Damaged keyboard? Give your PowerBook new life with a new set of keys. Genuine Apple. Part #922-6105. Part Number will not be listed on your keyboard.
For use with All PowerBook G4 15" Aluminum Backlite Models.
New. 6 Month Warranty.
---
So I'm just wondering, is it just a matter of the case being able to fit the backlit keyboard better? how much of a difference are we talking? And is it just a matter of putting the keyboard in, OR, is there other hardware requirements to getting the backlit keyboard to work.
BakedBeans
Sep 24, 2004, 01:57 PM
its not worth 137 i dont get anypleasure out of mine at all.... i turn it off all the time.... when its dark its easier to see the keys with it off....if the keys were lit on the normal keyboard that were away from the monitor that would be coool....but not that great imho
zelmo
Sep 24, 2004, 02:09 PM
its not worth 137 i dont get anypleasure out of mine at all.... i turn it off all the time.... when its dark its easier to see the keys with it off....if the keys were lit on the normal keyboard that were away from the monitor that would be coool....but not that great imho
Off topic, but...love the new avatar, although I thought the old one was pretty cool, too. Gee, only another 300 or so posts and I can add my own...
zelmo
Sep 24, 2004, 02:16 PM
What about this? It's the actual part number of the backlit keyboard and this site sells it.
http://mac-pro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=pbtikey15b&Category_Code=pp
Replacement Apple Keyboard for PowerBook G4 15" Aluminum- BackLit #922-6105
Quantity in Basket:none
Code: pbtikey15b
Price:$137.77
Shipping Weight: 1.50 pounds
Apple Replacement Keyboard for PowerBook G4 15" aluminum 1.25 Ghz.
Damaged keyboard? Give your PowerBook new life with a new set of keys. Genuine Apple. Part #922-6105. Part Number will not be listed on your keyboard.
For use with All PowerBook G4 15" Aluminum Backlite Models.
New. 6 Month Warranty.
---
So I'm just wondering, is it just a matter of the case being able to fit the backlit keyboard better? how much of a difference are we talking? And is it just a matter of putting the keyboard in, OR, is there other hardware requirements to getting the backlit keyboard to work.
This appears to be a replacement part if you already have a backlit kb that is damaged.
I found this ugly link info on Apple Discussions:
http://www.pbparts.com/shop/a15kb.html
and
http://www.pbparts.com/shop/a15bpr.html
So, for a scant $400 you can switch out the kb for a backlit one :(
BakedBeans
Sep 24, 2004, 03:59 PM
Off topic, but...love the new avatar, although I thought the old one was pretty cool, too. Gee, only another 300 or so posts and I can add my own...
um gee, thanks :o
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