Speakers

[MacMaster]

Hi,
I'm currently looking at a few different kinds of speakers and was looking for reccomendations from you guys on which to get. These are the ones that I'm looking at:
JBL Creature-Blue (http://www.harmanmultimedia.com/shop_detail.html?cart=HK2_1028919746117410&sku=CREATUREBLU&id1=1)
Sound Sticks (http://http://www.harmanmultimedia.com/shop_detail.html?cart=HK2_1028919746117410&sku=SS&id1=1)
Monsoon PM-9's (http://www.monsoonaudio.com/index_mmedia.htm)
http://www.klipsch.com/index.asp?pa...y&id=76&line=&1
http://www.hifi.com/store/category....&item=c1mwxxeex
and the Altec Lansing 621's
If you have any other suggestions the guidelines are:
They must be 2.1(I'm not dealing with that SoundBlaster Live!), they must use either USB or a normal minijack port, and they must be compatible with OS 9.1. I will use the speakers mostly gaming and a little music. All suggestions, tips, or recommendations will be welcomed!

[Rower_CPU]

Here's my recommendation if you have the $$$:
http://www.klipsch.com/index.asp?path=/products/productdetail.asp?frame=y&id=76&line=&1

I had their 4.1 system and it rocked!:D

[King Cobra]

I recommend anything from Cambridge Soundworks. I remember AlphaTech and resm bringing that up when I wanted a sound system (I got the 4.1 and it kills the Pro Speakers)...



All right. For some reason everything is now at the HIFI.com site.

Anyways, check out this list of 2.1 systems.

http://www.hifi.com/store/category.cgi?category=spk_multimedia

[MacMaster]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Here's my recommendation if you have the $$$:
http://www.klipsch.com/index.asp?path=/products/productdetail.asp?frame=y&id=76&line=&1

I had their 4.1 system and it rocked!:D
That's not a bad price for that system. THX ceritfied and all. I'll ad that to my list...

Originally posted by King Cobra
I recommend anything from Cambridge Soundworks. I remember AlphaTech and resm bringing that up when I wanted a sound system (I got the 4.1 and it kills the Pro Speakers)...



All right. For some reason everything is now at the HIFI.com site.

Anyways, check out this list of 2.1 systems.
http://www.hifi.com/store/category....=spk_multimedia
Thanks, I'm looking at this one: http://www.hifi.com/store/category.cgi?category=mul_speakers&item=c1mwxxeex

All I need is one or two more suggestions and then the hard part, making my choice...

PS: King Cobra, hows the sound blaster live working for you? After looking at some of those 4.1 speakers it sounds like a good thing to get...

[King Cobra]

Master, I am assuming you will hook these up to your G4 450MHz as your current computer? If so, you may not need to bother with USB Audio, since your computer already has an audio output.

I have the Cambridge Soundworks FPS2000 system at home (yep, the 4.1) on my Cube using OS X and an iMic for USB Audio, and the thing works SOLID. (This is with 2 speakers at a time, since it's 4 speakers and I need an audio y-wire for the full effect, muhahahahaha).

But if all you are looking for in sound is gaming and "a little music" get something cheap, but powerful. I found the 4.1 system for $100. :eek: :p

[MacMaster]

Originally posted by King Cobra
I have the Cambridge Soundworks FPS2000 system at home (yep, the 4.1) on my Cube using OS X and an iMic for USB Audio, and the thing works SOLID. (This is with 2 speakers at a time, since it's 4 speakers and I need an audio y-wire for the full effect, muhahahahaha).

Maybe I'm not understanding your post correctly, but I didn't know that you could use 4.1 speakers on a Mac without the SoundBlaster live! They would just act like 2.1 speakers right? The rear speakers doing the same things as the front speakers. Not a true surround sound effect, right?

[King Cobra]

Take a look at about 10 or 20 of the Cambridge speaker systems listed on the HIFI website and look at the descriptions. You'll notice that RARELY will you see the word MAC being used. It's all "PC" this and "PC" that. Peecees need a soundblaster card.

According to my father, who owns Macs and is the owner of a stereo store, the Macs have them built in. I guess what he means is that you don't need them. I know I didn't need the card for when I hooked up the 4.1 Surround Sound System. So, with Macs, you probably won't need a soundcard.

As for getting 2.1 sound or 4.1 sound, this may become a bit difficult to follow, so let me go slow.

Because I purchased a 4.1 system I have 2 channels of rear and front audio. Each has its own separate audio plug. So if I plug in the audio jack for the rear speakers I get sound from both rear speakers. If I plug in the audio jack for the front speakers I get sound from the front speakers. But because I only have one port for audio and I need two, I have to get an adapter. In this case, I need something to separate 2 channels of music from a one channel audio jack. And the way to do this would be to use some sort of an audio Y-wire. Each of the two jack for front/rear goes into the slots for front/rear, so I can separate the two channels. Then plug and play. (In order to get any sound out of my Mac (Cube, USB audio) I need an iMic, which converts regular audio to USB, or vice versa. But for this case we're assuming the system is being hooked up to JUST the audio port.)

[MacMaster]

I understand. I still think I'll stick with 2.1 though...

Now the hard part...choosing.:cool:

[bousozoku]

I have the Cambridge SoundWorks DeskTop Theater 5.1. I've been waiting for the SoundBlaster 5.1 card to go along with it. Unfortunately, Creative have only given us a fourpoint card so far.

The audio is reasonably good. Notice that this is coming from someone who has a Yamaha high-end receiver, Bose 901 series VI speakers in front, a Bose center channel speaker, and Advent surround speakers in the next room.

Of the choices you've given, I'd probably pick the Klipsch or the Altec-Lansing. JBL have never made (to my ears) speakers which reproduce sound realistically. If I was trying to impress someone with looks, I'd pick the SoundSticks...they just look so kewl. :D

[mac15]

yeah man woohoo pro speaker all the way, otz otz fully sick:D

[MacMaster]

Well I've narrowed it down to two speakers, the Monsoon PM-9's and the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's. But, because of cost constraints(sp?)(I'm saving up to get a PM G4 466-733 on ebay)I think I'll choose the Monsoon's. I have always liked the look of flat pannel speakers and I've heard some good things about those speakers. I also like them because they're small and won't take up that much room on my desk. I'll probably order them on monday or tuesday...
Thanks for your help guys!!!:)

[G4scott]

I got a cambridge soundworks system for $80 last year, the 2.1 digital, and it kicks @$$... The sub on the system rocks my whole house...

[vniow]

I've got the Cambridge 5300 5.1 with my SBLive! 5.1 on my PC. The satellites are pretty good fo their size and price, but the subwoofer's kinda weak. I'd upgrade it, but it's also my amplifier.:( Listening to DVDs sound prety good on it, considering this is in my 12x12 bedroom. I've got a lot of mp3s so the Pro Logic II in my DVD software is MUCH of an improvement (for some songs anyway) Anywayz, I reccomend the Cambridge if you've got a small room and don't listen to a lot of drum and bass music. :p

[AlphaTech]

I have the mid level 2.1 system (the one selling for $70 now) on my game system and it ROCKS!. I have the $150 system waiting to be connected (going to put the smaller set onto a cd player/radio).

IMnsHO, for the money, you cannot beat the quality of CSW. They also have a 45 day, no questions asked (no restocking fee) return policy. If you want enough base to keep the neighbors awake (I do that with the smaller of my two sets right now when playing games) as well as clean all around sound (great top end, as well as base) get the CSW set. With the return policy they have, it won't hurt to give them a good/fair shot.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by edvniow
I've got the Cambridge 5300 5.1 with my SBLive! 5.1 on my PC. The satellites are pretty good fo their size and price, but the subwoofer's kinda weak. I'd upgrade it, but it's also my amplifier.:( Listening to DVDs sound prety good on it, considering this is in my 12x12 bedroom. I've got a lot of mp3s so the Pro Logic II in my DVD software is MUCH of an improvement (for some songs anyway) Anywayz, I reccomend the Cambridge if you've got a small room and don't listen to a lot of drum and bass music. :p

I have the DTT3500 system attached to my tv/dvd/vcr and I can't see how the subwoofer is weak... I watched some anime the other night, and it ROCKS!

With ALL surround sound systems, proper placement is critical to quality sound. I have it set up in my living room (smallish 1 bedroom apartment) which is approx. 12x14 and have never had any complaints about the sound. That is also with company coming over to watch movies and such. It really does help if the signal you are giving it is in surround sound.

You might want to recheck your connections, since something could be loose.

[MacMaster]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
I have the mid level 2.1 system (the one selling for $70 now) on my game system and it ROCKS!. I have the $150 system waiting to be connected (going to put the smaller set onto a cd player/radio).

IMnsHO, for the money, you cannot beat the quality of CSW. They also have a 45 day, no questions asked (no restocking fee) return policy. If you want enough base to keep the neighbors awake (I do that with the smaller of my two sets right now when playing games) as well as clean all around sound (great top end, as well as base) get the CSW set. With the return policy they have, it won't hurt to give them a good/fair shot.
Alpha, you've done it again!:p You've made me think now...ahhhhhh! Stop it! My brain is fighting with itself!!!:eek:

I'll get back to you on my final decision after my brain has sorted itself out...

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by MacMaster

Alpha, you've done it again!:p You've made me think now...ahhhhhh! Stop it! My brain is fighting with itself!!!:eek:

I'll get back to you on my final decision after my brain has sorted itself out...

BTW, I have kept my downstairs neighbor awake while playing Commanche 4 on the pc (the sound of the nose gun did it :D). My living room is at the back of the house, and his bedroom is on the floor below me, and at the front of the house. That was with the subwoofer at 1/2 volume too... :D

[vniow]

Originally posted by AlphaTech

I have the DTT3500 system attached to my tv/dvd/vcr and I can't see how the subwoofer is weak... I watched some anime the other night, and it ROCKS!
Oops, It's the Insipre 5300. Not the Cambridge. You've got the DTT 5300. THAT's why your subwoofer rocks and mine sucks.:D It still thumps when I listen to somthing with a lot of bass, like an action movie or something by the Cinematic Orchestra, other than that, it works great. One cool thing about it is it fakes a center channel if you've only got a 4.1 output. It's not an actual center, but it's nice to have it there anyway. Maybe I have a loose connection from playing it too loud. :p

[AlphaTech]

CSW makes the DTT3500... It's right on the link provided in another post... :p

[MacMaster]

Still thinking........

Alpha, do I need to get anything extra to get the DTT3500 speakers (http://www.hifi.com/store/category.cgi?category=mul_speakers&item=c1dt35ee&type=store) to work with my computer?

[saabmp3]

You could just do what I'm going to do and hook your computer up to a full fledge stereo. None of the computer specific setups are going to come close to the sound this is going to make. (both quality wise and loudness).

BEN

[aznatari]

I would recommend buying the sound sticks if you want the power and have the money. But if you want go with the creativity and pretty good price, go with the JBL Creature Speakers. Those are my recommendations.


atari

[MacMaster]

Well I've decided that I'm going to go out to Circuit City and some other speaker stores(and electronics stores) and see if I can hear some of these speakers for myself today or tomorrow.

[Royal Pineapple]

i bought the sound sticks and i love them, the only problem is that it takes a second fot the computer to realise that they are plugged in and switch to using them. alpha do you know of any way to fix this?
but other than that i fell that they are the coolest ones on the market, although some people say they look like sex toys

[MacMaster]

Well, I've narrowed the choices to two again and they are the Creature blue's and the Monsoon PM-9's.(really cool/kinda cool, but more functional) I really like the look and features of the creature speakers(hey that rhymes!), but will 11 more watts per channel and a 2 1/2" bigger sub make that much more of a difference? Right now I'm leaning towards the creatures(they're just soooooo cool!), but I need a final push in one direction or the other...

[MacMaster]

These?:)

[MacMaster]

Or these?

[AlphaTech]

I still say you should get the CSW speakers...

[MacMaster]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
I still say you should get the CSW speakers...
:rolleyes: I'm still thinking about that a little...But they cost soooo much! And I want to save as much $$$ as possible for a new(er) powermac.

Come on people I need a push!

[G4scott]

Originally posted by MacMaster

:rolleyes: I'm still thinking about that a little...But they cost soooo much! And I want to save as much $$$ as possible for a new(er) powermac.

Come on people I need a push!

I'm not sure how much they cost now, but I got a decent CSW 2.1 digital system for $80...

[King Cobra]

All right.

First off, FORGET THE SOUNDSTICKS and iSUB. Those who say they are impressed may be impressed but only to a certain extent.

Second, my father owns a stereo/electronics store and has compared basically all the top brands you can think of, INCLUDING the Pro Speakers and the Soundsticks. I asked him if the Cambridge Systems would give me better sound than the Soundsticks. He recommended CSW and also PSB. If you are looking for a cheap but effective method go with a 2.1 system from Cambridge. They have plenty of systems under $100. Those speakers and sub might SEEM small, even with the specs listed for the watts produced, but, if you think the Soundsticks impress you, you haven't heard jack *****.

Take my word for it. I have 2.1 out of 4.1 working at home and I get such a vast improvement over the Pro Speakers I refuse to go back to them unless it was a necessity.

Let me show you how much power the sub can produce. With the FPS2000 the sub has a dial on it, to adjust the amount of low frequencies it sends through the house. I was very satisfied with the dial only one FOURTH of the way up! :eek:

Think it through, MacMaster. For something under the budget and for something with pure quality, I strongly recommend the Cambridge Soundworks. There are many options for a 2.1 system; you have to choose which one you want to spend more money for more power on. :cool:

[mnkeybsness]

does anybody know about hooking up to stereos? when i try to do it, my subwoofer always gets some bass feedback into it, even if my powermac isn't running any sound, it will just have a low frequency tone. is there a way to fix this?

[AlphaTech]

The CSW systems run either $80 or $150 for the upper two packages (2.1 system). The one that is $150 has a 6-1/2" subwoofer...

From the web site... "MicroWorks by Henry Kloss is a multimedia speaker system with incredibly accurate sound that actually has more power, more output and more bass than a lot of home stereo systems. Henry Kloss has carefully fine-tuned MicroWorks to produce its natural, accurate, wide-range sound. This process includes tailoring its built-in amplifier to optimize the speakers' performance. The built-in amplifier features 67 watts total, making it more powerful than similar systems. And its subwoofer and satellite drivers are larger. The result: MicroWorks has over four times the acoustic output of most multimedia speaker systems. Deeper and stronger bass response along with the clear, wide-range sound enable MicroWorks to easily fill a living room, a conference room, even a small auditorium, with beautiful music. It's terrific for making multimedia presentations on your computer. "

I have the next one down ($80) on my game pc at the moment (haven't pulled the $150 one out and connected it yet) and it is VERY sweet.

BTW, CSW also has another system (Ensamble III subwoofer/satellite system) that has a watt rating from 20-200 (min-max). Granted that system has a slightly larger set of satellite speakers. From the information I have been give, the CSW speaker sets are not usually rated the same as other speaker systems. Where other systems list theoretical maximum wattage numbers (to inflate them) CSW [typically] lists the minimum as the rating. That is why you get a much more powerful system that has [slightly] lower numbers.

Don't go by just wattage numbers when making your decision... If there is a CSW store near you, go into one, tell them that you want a speaker set for your computer (make sure you tell them you want a 2.1 system) and listen to them. Bring a cd with you for testing, something you will be playing on the computer, so that you can get a better test of the quality of the speakers.

I have never been disappointed with my CSW speakers at home.

[MacMaster]

I think I'll get the CSW 2.1 digital speakers(the ones for $70 now). They are a good price and you guys sound happy with them.:)

[Rajj]

Wait!!!!!!!!!! Did you try Compusa?
They have a huge selection of speakers!!:D
I bought the Logitech Z-560 for 136 USD (normal price $200):p
The point I'm making is that they usually run deals on different things!!
If you do buy from Compusa, make sure you buy their replacement plan!!!
It is worth it, because you can blow your speakers and get new ones with no questions asked!!

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by xrhajj
Wait!!!!!!!!!! Did you try Compusa?
They have a huge selection of speakers!!:D
I bought the Logitech Z-560 for 136 USD (normal price $200):p
The point I'm making is that they usually run deals on different things!!
If you do buy from Compusa, make sure you buy their replacement plan!!!
It is worth it, because you can blow your speakers and get new ones with no questions asked!!

Actually, the [in]compusa protection plan is a waste of money. This is especially true when it comes to purchasing Mac systems. IF you manage to blow your CSW speakers, then you are using them WAY above their parameters which would make you deaf (as well as stupid). :eek: :p :D :cool:

[Rajj]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Actually, the [in]compusa protection plan is a waste of money. This is especially true when it comes to purchasing Mac systems. IF you manage to blow your CSW speakers, then you are using them WAY above their parameters which would make you deaf (as well as stupid). :eek: :p :D :cool:

I thought you was smart Alpha?:p

It's called a replacement plan, and what that "means" is that you can get new speakers every year!!!! just blow them out ;) and take 'em back:p

Technology changes every year, so you will get the best speakers each year:cool:

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by xrhajj
I thought you was smart Alpha?:p

It's called a replacement plan, and what that "means" is that you can get new speakers every year!!!! just blow them out ;) and take 'em back:p

Technology changes every year, so you will get the best speakers each year:cool:

That makes a ton of sense, if you're an asshole... :rolleyes: :p

QUALITY speakers (like from CSW) are kick ass for MORE then a year, where the rest HAVE to update every year just to try and get more people to buy them.

How often would you replace the speakers on your stereo?? You pay good money for those and don't look to replace them for 20+ years. My father picked up a set of speakers in the early 80's that STILL function 100% and kick ass. My mother uses them [still] on the tv in her living room. Eventually, speakers die, mostly from the fact that the paper used in them gets old and brittle. At that point, instead of flexing it tears.

[MacAztec]

Well, I have a few questions. Are you using the 2.1 CSW on your gaming PeeCee?

I was checking out building one today, and it was a total of 880 dollars w/o Monitor, Keyboard, and Speakers. This was with a Radeon 9000 Pro.

My other question is on googlegear.com (the site i seem to find best prices), the GigaByte Mobo says P4...but you said you put the AMD 2100+ in it. Am i missing somethin?

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by MacAztec
Well, I have a few questions. Are you using the 2.1 CSW on your gaming PeeCee?
I have the ones that sell for ~$80 attached at the moment, but will soon be attaching the ~$150 ones to the game pc.

I was checking out building one today, and it was a total of 880 dollars w/o Monitor, Keyboard, and Speakers. This was with a Radeon 9000 Pro.

My other question is on googlegear.com (the site i seem to find best prices), the GigaByte Mobo says P4...but you said you put the AMD 2100+ in it. Am i missing somethin?

The Giga-Byte board I referenced in the PM was made for the AMD chipset... If you see the model come up as a GA7xxxx it is for the AMD chipset... if it comes up as GA8xxxx then it is for the intel (poc). You also DO want the Socket A board (which is the connection type AMD is using for the current chips). One like this (http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=240601) for example... or better yet, this one (http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=240608) which supports PC2700 (DDR333) memory...

You could also check out Motherboard Express (http://www.motherboardexpress.com/) for parts... Just remember, don't purchase hard drives that come up as 'bare' since those are grey market/OEM parts that you might not be able to get warranty service on. You are better off purchasing retail packaged hard drives (as well as optical drives).

BTW, WTF are you going for the dead tech of an LS120??? A burner is a better choice (didn't you mention you would be getting one of those to toss inside the case?). You could even save a few $$ by getting a 24x burner (~3-1/2 minute 700MB burn time, at least on a Mac with Toast).

[Rajj]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


That makes a ton of sense, if you're an asshole... :rolleyes: :p

QUALITY speakers (like from CSW) are kick ass for MORE then a year, where the rest HAVE to update every year just to try and get more people to buy them.

How often would you replace the speakers on your stereo?? You pay good money for those and don't look to replace them for 20+ years. My father picked up a set of speakers in the early 80's that STILL function 100% and kick ass. My mother uses them [still] on the tv in her living room. Eventually, speakers die, mostly from the fact that the paper used in them gets old and brittle. At that point, instead of flexing it tears.

I didn't ask for your life story:p
AND its pretty conspicuous thant you can't read:p
BTW I'm anASSHOLE!!!!! :p ;) :cool:

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by xrhajj
I didn't ask for your life story:p
AND its pretty conspicuous thant you can't read:p
BTW I'm an ASSHOLE!!!!!:p ;) :cool:

I read your moronic post, asshole, and responded accordingly... ANYONE that knows ANYTHING about quality speakers knows that they are made to last. Also, if you keep blowing out brand new speakers every year, eventually even the people at compusa will pick up on it and refuse to just give you replacement speakers.

The reference I gave was to illustrate how quality speakers last a long assed time. They have been played loud for many years, and still perform as desired/expected.

BTW, the subwoofer (on the DTT3500 system) has made the entire house rattle during movies, or regular tv broadcasts where they put enough base through. That was at less then 1/2 volume as well... I don't even want to think about what would happen if I cranked them up all the way.

[Rajj]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


I read your moronic post, asshole, and responded accordingly... ANYONE that knows ANYTHING about quality speakers knows that they are made to last. Also, if you keep blowing out brand new speakers every year, eventually even the people at compusa will pick up on it and refuse to just give you replacement speakers.

The reference I gave was to illustrate how quality speakers last a long assed time. They have been played loud for many years, and still perform as desired/expected.

BTW, the subwoofer (on the DTT3500 system) has made the entire house rattle during movies, or regular tv broadcasts where they put enough base through. That was at less then 1/2 volume as well... I don't even want to think about what would happen if I cranked them up all the way.


In actuality, I know A LOT about audio equipment:p

As a matter of fact, My home systems will more than likely ANNIHILATE your subordinate set-up:p My two Bose satellites will crush glasses alone,:p Hell, my Z-560's coming out of my TiBook has sufficent power to move my printer to the Italian marble floor on level 6!!! you simpleton:cool:

[MacAztec]

Yea, we have a Bose Acoustomass series, and the sub is pretty nice.

Now about the CSW speakers. The ones you have hooked up now are the ones that are 69.99...black...right?

Right now I am using some Yamaha Speakers, which are actually quite good, with a BassBite woofer that came with my stereo.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by xrhajj
In actuality, I know A LOT about audio equipment:p

As a matter of fact, My home systems will more than likely ANNIHILATE your subordinate set-up:p My two Bose satellites will crush glasses alone,:p Hell, my Z-560's coming out of my TiBook has sufficent power to move my printer to the Italian marble floor on level 6!!! you simpleton:cool:

You claim to know a lot, and then advocate blowing speakers once a year JUST to get something newer. :rolleyes:

You poor, deluded foolish mortal... :rolleyes:

All that base must have jellified what little brains you were born with. You probably also have one of those mega-watt sound systems inside your $200 shîtbox/toyota that you drive around in.

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
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All that base must have jellified what little brains you were born with. You probably also have one of those mega-watt sound systems inside your $200 shîtbox/toyota that you drive around in.

Don't go bringing Toyota into this.:p :D

[MacAztec]

Rower, which CSW speakers did you have? Can I see a link?

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


Don't go bringing Toyota into this.:p :D

Hey Row-dog, I was wondering when you were going to stick your snout in here... :eek: :D

Did the toy...ota reference get ya??? :D You could also insert hondo/a or just about any other cheap-assed japaneze car in it's place.

I thought of something today, as I was riding the Harley home... Has anyone else noticed how the Japanese auto makers follow the US makers??? Take trucks for instance, the US makers had them LONG before the Japanese had them on the market... How about SUV's?? Same thing there too... Hell, I think even the German makers did it before the Japanese did... Come to think of it, I have yet to see a BMW or Mercedes brand truck on the road... Do they even make them, or do they just do SUV's (for that type of vehicle)??

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by MacAztec
Rower, which CSW speakers did you have? Can I see a link?

It wasn't CSW, it was Klipsch:
http://www.klipsch.com/index.asp?path=/products/productdetail.asp?frame=y&id=76&line=&1

Not cheap, but not "cheap".;)

[MacAztec]

Who was it that said they had CSW speakers, and it rocked their dorm or something.

And to follow up with Alpha...

Yea, my neighbor has a honda P.O.S. along with his buddies. Slowest, most high pitched cars, with those weird systems.

Its funny, my brother has a '90 mustang he put some work into (nos and that kind of stuff) and they never want to race him.

My bro has a nice system...i think. Its a Sony Xplod

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Hey Row-dog, I was wondering when you were going to stick your snout in here... :eek: :D

Did the toy...ota reference get ya??? :D You could also insert hondo/a or just about any other cheap-assed japaneze car in it's place.

I thought of something today, as I was riding the Harley home... Has anyone else noticed how the Japanese auto makers follow the US makers??? Take trucks for instance, the US makers had them LONG before the Japanese had them on the market... How about SUV's?? Same thing there too... Hell, I think even the German makers did it before the Japanese did... Come to think of it, I have yet to see a BMW or Mercedes brand truck on the road... Do they even make them, or do they just do SUV's (for that type of vehicle)??

You can keep your Found On Road Dead, or Fix Or Repair Daily...

Meanwhile the Japanese and German motor companies are working on making cars to take into the next century (hybrid, hydrogen, etc)...and Ford release an electric car that looks like a ****ing golf cart.:rolleyes:

[MacAztec]

I prefer chevy. Ford is nice, powerful car, but I don't know, its just something about a Chevy that turns me on :eek: :p :cool:

[MacMaster]

Ha! This is funny! Look what has happened to my thread! speakers->stores->arguing->speakers->car speakers->cars:D :p

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


You can keep your Found On Road Dead, or Fix Or Repair Daily...

Meanwhile the Japanese and German motor companies are working on making cars to take into the next century (hybrid, hydrogen, etc)...and Ford release an electric car that looks like a ****ing golf cart.:rolleyes:

Funnnnny row-dog... Thing is, I never had to do anything other then routine maintenance on my first truck (a leased 99 Ranger XLT) and fully expect the same from the 2002 that I am purchasing (turned in the lease this year and decided to buy this time around).

You can keep the Japanese and German vehicles... if someone was to give me one, chances are, I would sell it to some poor schmuk and use the money for something better... Like more accessories for the Harley. :D

You CANNOT tell me you actually like what honda's hybrid car looks like... what a ****ing joke that thing is. I seriously doubt that ANY electric vehicle/engine will have enough power to replace the gas burner inside mine... They also don't have the travel power... With a gas vehicle, you can litterally go on forever (if you have a spare driver) stopping only to eat. With the electric's you have to charge them sometime. The electric motors/engines also don't develop enough power to suit everyone... Who really knows if they ever will...

To me, the electric car is a novel idea, but the execution leaves much to be desired (from ANY auto maker).

I also, seriously, hope that Harley NEVER caves to pressure to put anything other then a gas powered engine inside of it's products... Considering how a Harley, right out of the factory will get ~50mpg highway and ~45 around town... What car out there (with the same power to weigh ratio) can do that??? :p :D :cool:

[vniow]

How about this:
Toys Only Your Orephuses Think About:D

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Funnnnny row-dog... Thing is, I never had to do anything other then routine maintenance on my first truck (a leased 99 Ranger XLT) and fully expect the same from the 2002 that I am purchasing (turned in the lease this year and decided to buy this time around).

You can keep the Japanese and German vehicles... if someone was to give me one, chances are, I would sell it to some poor schmuk and use the money for something better... Like more accessories for the Harley. :D

You CANNOT tell me you actually like what honda's hybrid car looks like... what a ****ing joke that thing is. I seriously doubt that ANY electric vehicle/engine will have enough power to replace the gas burner inside mine... They also don't have the travel power... With a gas vehicle, you can litterally go on forever (if you have a spare driver) stopping only to eat. With the electric's you have to charge them sometime. The electric motors/engines also don't develop enough power to suit everyone... Who really knows if they ever will...

To me, the electric car is a novel idea, but the execution leaves much to be desired (from ANY auto maker).

I also, seriously, hope that Harley NEVER caves to pressure to put anything other then a gas powered engine inside of it's products... Considering how a Harley, right out of the factory will get ~50mpg highway and ~45 around town... What car out there (with the same power to weigh ratio) can do that??? :p :D :cool:

Glad you like those. I learned them from a mechanic.;)

I never said I liked the looks of those cars. I think they look like crap. But the performance and economy and "green factor" are big things these days.

Fossil fuels are a thing of the past, and it's only because of the huge oil/auto lobby that we're still using them.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by edvniow
How about this:
Toys Only Your Orephuses Think About:D

I like it... :D

Since I started driving trucks (and a SUV before that) I will never go back to having a car... There is a lot to be said for being higher on the road then the people in cars. For one thing, I can see several cars ahead of me, to see which asshole is slowing us down. :eek: :p :D Hell, I can do that on the Harley as well. Plus, the motorcycle is much more maneuverable then a car is.

I also enjoy how those low riding cars (the same ones with the stereo systems with waaaayyyyy too much subwoofer) shrink away from every little dip in the road, where I just roll over them (in the truck). I also enjoy watching those same cars try to move come winter up here (and the snow). While they are spinning their wheels, I just keep on moving (switch on the fly/demand 4 wheel drive). Hell, most of the time I don't even need a shovel to get out of the driveway (haven't needed to even get one since I moved last year). Before a snow store, I just back in, then put it into 4x4 mode. When I need to go out (after or even during the snow storm) I just do... Plowing through the snow. :p :D Lets see a car do THAT... :p :D

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Glad you like those. I learned them from a mechanic.;)


Really now... and what kind of vehicles did/does he service??? True mechanic, or a 'technician'???

My father was a mechanic for more then a few years (before he got disabled), and he always had Ford vehicles. We also never had any issues with them. Perform routine mantenance on your car, and it will take care of you (pretty much the same with your computer).

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Really now... and what kind of vehicles did/does he service??? True mechanic, or a 'technician'???

My father was a mechanic for more then a few years (before he got disabled), and he always had Ford vehicles. We also never had any issues with them. Perform routine mantenance on your car, and it will take care of you (pretty much the same with your computer).

I've heard it from several people actually.

From some guys I know who are car nuts that work on race cars (smalltime stuff). They swear by Chevys. They concede Ford's towing/hauling power, though.

From a coworkers Dad who has worked on cars all his life. He had to have a special "Ford bag" for all the parts he had to use/make to fix ignition and electrical problems.

They've probably worked some of those problems out by now. Have you had any models before the '99 Ranger? If you're leasing cars and have a 3 year turn around, you don't have the experience of older models and how they age.

Anyway...how about those speakers?;)

[Rajj]

I concur with you Row, Japanese and Germen cars are superior!!;)
****ed O ver R ebuilt D odges are number one in vehicle recalls in the USA:p
As a matter of fact, ALL American cars are trash, because the American Auto Makers don't care about quality, but only about cost. Cheap ********:mad:

And as for Japanese and German Trucks, They are mainstream in Eurasia;) :p :D :cool:

[job]

Brining this thread back on topic after mass amounts of spam... ;)

I read a review of a 4.1 Altec Lansing speaker set up at insidemacgames.com

I was able to test the speakers out at my local Best Buy, and man, are they good. The woofer is larger than a G4 tower and the controller is top notch.

A pic for your enjoyment..

[job]

Originally posted by xrhajj
I concur with you Row, Japanese and Germen cars are superior!!;)
****ed O ver R ebuilt D odges are number one in vehicle recalls in the USA:p
As a matter of fact, ALL American cars are trash, because the American Auto Makers don't care about quality, but only about cost. Cheap ********ers:mad:

And as for Japanese and German Trucks, They are mainstream in Eurasia;) :p :D :cool:

I drive a VW Beetle (1974) :D

[job]

Here's a pic of the controller for the Altec Lansing speakers.

[MacAztec]

Those are awesomel.....how much!?!?

[Atomic]

Ive got a set of these hooked to my mac in my recording studio :D Boy do they rock!!!

http://www.event1.com/images/2020two.jpg

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by xrhajj
I concur with you Row, Japanese and Germen cars are superior!!
****ed O ver R ebuilt D odges are number one in vehicle recalls in the USA:p
As a matter of fact, ALL American cars are trash, because the American Auto Makers don't care about quality, but only about cost. Cheap ********ers

And as for Japanese and German Trucks, They are mainstream in Eurasia

Listen up ya twit, you CANNOT call ALL American cars trash (I notice you didn't put trucks in there :p).

Row-dog, I had a 78 Ford Fairmont that I drove into the ground (in 96), then I had an 84 Bronco II that I replaced with the Ranger in 99.

My mother purchased a Contour in 97 (brand new that year) and hasn't had any real issues with it (the clock inside the dash had some problems, big whoop, they fixed it for her for free). My sister has a 99 Windstar that she loves (especially for taking trips or hauling her two kids around with). My brother in law had a 98 Ranger, until he flipped over (totaled the truck, but he walked out with only glass in his hair). The only reason it flipped was he fell asleep at the wheel. :eek:

My current truck is great... You simply could NOT give me a foreign truck (I will never go back to a car either). I prefer to give my money to American companies, and support them.

BTW, basing your own opinion about something on OTHER people's information/experiences is moronic. I have had EXCELLENT results with Ford vehicles, as has the rest of my family. Hell, even my uncle (who owns a bus company in Maine) drives Fords. He has enough money to buy ANY vehicle he wants, but he chooses to purchase Fords. My cousins have his old ones when he goes for a new one, so they are kept on the road.

Back to speakers... I still swear by the CSW systems... since they have performed BETTER then expected, and continue to do so day after day after day... Pretty much the same as my truck and Harley... :p :D :cool:

[job]

Originally posted by MacAztec
Those are awesomel.....how much!?!?

The Altec Lansing 4.1 speakers are $199.00 :D

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
…
BTW, basing your own opinion about something on OTHER people's information/experiences is moronic.
…

So why should anyone here listen to our tech advice?

I don't have the car experience that a mechanic does, so I'll take their word. Just like people without a lot of computer tech experience take ours.;)

In my own personal experience American cars, such as Dodge and Oldsmobile, have been complete crap. The auto industry in general is turning out disposable cars these days, but the American makers seem to really excel at turning out recall prone vehicles.

Hell, Chrysler just recalled hundreds of thousands of PT Cruisers for a fuel pump problem.:rolleyes:

[MacMaster]

Originally posted by hitman


The Altec Lansing 4.1 speakers are $199.00 :D
That's over my budget...
Hey Alpha, how do you control the sound, etc., on the speakers that I'm going to get?(the csw 2.1's)

Cool! 200 posts!

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by MacMaster

That's over my budget...
Hey Alpha, how do you control the sound, etc., on the speakers that I'm going to get?(the csw 2.1's)

Cool! 200 posts!

Very easily... there is a on/off volume control that you can place either on the side of your monitor, or on the desk, or anywhere you want (except for body openings :eek: ). I have mine on the base of my LCD display. It plugs into the subwoofer unit and controlls the volume very nicely. The sub has the base level control on it, so you don't have to worry about accidentily hitting that one instead.

[bousozoku]

Originally posted by MacMaster
Ha! This is funny! Look what has happened to my thread! speakers->stores->arguing->speakers->car speakers->cars:D :p

Did you lose control again? :D

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
So why should anyone here listen to our tech advice?

I don't have the car experience that a mechanic does, so I'll take their word. Just like people without a lot of computer tech experience take ours.;)

In my own personal experience American cars, such as Dodge and Oldsmobile, have been complete crap. The auto industry in general is turning out disposable cars these days, but the American makers seem to really excel at turning out recall prone vehicles.

Hell, Chrysler just recalled hundreds of thousands of PT Cruisers for a fuel pump problem.:rolleyes:

If someone told me how to repair a vehicle that I owned, and they had worked on that model before, I would listen to the advice/information and see how close it matches up/works. Computers are different then auto's are (no, really, they are different animals ;)).

As for your own experience with Dodge and Olds, at least you have experienced issues with those... I haven't (had problems) with the Fords I have had. From all of my own experience, Ford isn't making disposable trucks... The Contour was also a well made vehicle, as are their mini-vans (i.e. the Windstar).

Oh, and there have never been German (or Japanese) vehicles that were known to have fuel delivery (or containment) problems??? We all know how things were years ago... I am a bit surprised that Chrysler put something like that inside a vehicle... could it have been a bad lot from the fuel pump manufacturer (or do they make their own)??

Maybe the makers are pumping out crappy cars, but I don't have any cars, I own a truck (and a Harley)... :p :D

[job]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Oh, and there have never been German (or Japanese) vehicles that were known to have fuel delivery (or containment) problems??? We all know how things were years ago... I am a bit surprised that Chrysler put something like that inside a vehicle... could it have been a bad lot from the fuel pump manufacturer (or do they make their own)??

Well, it is DaimlerChrysler now. :rolleyes:

[MacMaster]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Very easily... there is a on/off volume control that you can place either on the side of your monitor, or on the desk, or anywhere you want (except for body openings :eek: ). I have mine on the base of my LCD display. It plugs into the subwoofer unit and controlls the volume very nicely. The sub has the base level control on it, so you don't have to worry about accidentily hitting that one instead.
That's good. Cool!

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
If someone told me how to repair a vehicle that I owned, and they had worked on that model before, I would listen to the advice/information and see how close it matches up/works. Computers are different then auto's are (no, really, they are different animals ;)).

As for your own experience with Dodge and Olds, at least you have experienced issues with those... I haven't (had problems) with the Fords I have had. From all of my own experience, Ford isn't making disposable trucks... The Contour was also a well made vehicle, as are their mini-vans (i.e. the Windstar).

Oh, and there have never been German (or Japanese) vehicles that were known to have fuel delivery (or containment) problems??? We all know how things were years ago... I am a bit surprised that Chrysler put something like that inside a vehicle... could it have been a bad lot from the fuel pump manufacturer (or do they make their own)??

Maybe the makers are pumping out crappy cars, but I don't have any cars, I own a truck (and a Harley)... :p :D

Ford Focus, massive recall.

Ford Explorer/Firestone tire problem, many deaths from blowouts.

:rolleyes:

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Ford Explorer/Firestone tire problem, many deaths from blowouts.

The recall was on the TIRES, not the vehicles... I had firestoned tires on the 99 truck... got new tires for free because of the recall (had ~40k on the ones that got replaced).

I can't help but notice that you didn't mention any 'major' recalls for trucks... Contrary to what some people believe trucks are NOT SUV's... :p :D

BTW, do you happen to know (for a fact) what the recall of the Focus was?? I don't remember hearing about it, but then again, I also don't watch the news that much. Most of the time, I am still at work when it's on the air. Then when I do get home, I have better things to watch then the late night news.

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
The recall was on the TIRES, not the vehicles... I had firestoned tires on the 99 truck... got new tires for free because of the recall (had ~40k on the ones that got replaced).

I can't help but notice that you didn't mention any 'major' recalls for trucks... Contrary to what some people believe trucks are NOT SUV's... :p :D

BTW, do you happen to know (for a fact) what the recall of the Focus was?? I don't remember hearing about it, but then again, I also don't watch the news that much. Most of the time, I am still at work when it's on the air. Then when I do get home, I have better things to watch then the late night news.

Sorry, my friend, but it was a combination of the two. If the Explorer didn't have such a high center of gravity and stability problems, the rollovers wouldn't have happened with a blowout. You didn't see blowouts causing wrecks like that with other trucks/SUVs using those tires.

What's your definition of "truck" compared to SUV? If it's just an open bed in the back...

Here's what I could find on the Focus recall(s):
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/news/041502_7oys_ford_recall.html
http://consumeraffairs.com/news02/ford_focus.html
http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/a/014/v1048.htm
http://www.fordfocusbrakeproblems.com/articles.htm

[voyagerd]

logitech z-560's rock

[TyleRomeo]

Originally posted by voyagerd
logitech z-560's rock

then you have to try out ProMedia 5.1 500 Watt Power

tyler

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by TyleRomeo
then you have to try out ProMedia 5.1 500 Watt Power

tyler

Muahahahah...now you're talking!

Have you heard them in person? I loved my 4.1 ProMedia's with their puny 400 watts...they were the best part about my PC.