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seeyou
Jun 13, 2010, 11:21 AM
Hi all :D

Before all , i'm sorry for my english i'm french .

I found this great forum after searching "macbook air " in google :apple::p.

I need a computer for internet , music and video like youtube etc ... . And 720p video (movietrailer .. gametrailer ) etc .. .

Can i do that on an macbook air ? (9400m , 1,86 ghz dual core ) .

One more time sorry for my english and thanks for you answers ;).



Hellhammer
Jun 13, 2010, 11:27 AM
Yes, MacBook Air can do those things just fine. Keep in mind that MacBook is cheaper, faster and has twice as good battery, not forgetting an extra USB too. Low-end MacBook Air also has 4200rpm hard drive which is painfully slow thus if you can, get the high-end MBA with SSD.

Currently, I don't find MBA being a good deal so personally, I would either wait for an update or get a MacBook (Pro)

flynz4
Jun 13, 2010, 11:35 AM
For your movies, if you still need a DVD drive, you would probably be better off with the MBP. I personally believe that physical media is dying, and the legacy inclusion of optical drives is disadvantage to most current notebooks. However, some people still have a legitimate use for optical drives and for them, moving to MBA would be problematic.

Personally, I have left optical (and most other physical) media behind. The recent advancements in networking infrastructure have enabled its demise.

/Jim

seeyou
Jun 13, 2010, 11:36 AM
Maybe the macbook pro is a better option for me .

The macbook air with SSD cost 1700 € or something like 2100 $ .(in France) .

The macbook pro with 250gb cost 1100 € and i think later it's possible to replace this hdd by one SSD .

Are the 4500 rpm's really so slow ? (for my practice ? )

lucifiel
Jun 13, 2010, 11:37 AM
720p on YouTube will also be an issue unless you have the Beta Flash Player.

As for value, it depends on what's important to you, portability or spec chasing?

The half an inch and half a kilogram difference between the machines is quite noticable.

Hellhammer
Jun 13, 2010, 11:38 AM
The macbook pro with 250gb cost 1100 Ç and i think later it's possible to replace this hdd by one SSD .

Yes, it is, with a much faster one.

Spacekatgal
Jun 13, 2010, 11:40 AM
Yes, it is, with a much faster one.

I don't think the MBA is the droid you're looking for.

skate71290
Jun 13, 2010, 11:49 AM
2.0GHZ Core 2 Duo is required to run 720p and 1080p video offline, i recommend the base model MacBook Pro, which should be more than enough for your needs, the MacBook Air is way too outdated, but if you really want the MacBook Air then wait for a refresh, and i believe all the MacBook Air's except the 1.6GHZ model use a 5400RPM HDD

seeyou
Jun 13, 2010, 11:51 AM
720p on YouTube will also be an issue unless you have the Beta Flash Player.

As for value, it depends on what's important to you, portability or spec chasing?

The half an inch and half a kilogram difference between the machines is quite noticable.

if i download the beta flash player , can i hope a movie without "stutter" ?

Or can i download it , and load with another player ? .

I know it's possible with pc and VLC

Hellhammer
Jun 13, 2010, 11:53 AM
i believe all the MacBook Air's except the 1.6GHZ model use a 5400RPM HDD

There are no 5400rpm 1.8" HDs AFAIK. Even the current gen uses 4200rpm http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook-air/stats/macbook-air-core-2-duo-1.86-13-mid-2009-specs.html

flynz4
Jun 13, 2010, 12:00 PM
Regardless... get an SSD.

/Jim

MacRuler
Jun 13, 2010, 12:10 PM
skate71290 your terribly mistaken, my macbook air 1.6 ghz runs 1080p video flawlessly through quicktime offline. u dont have to have a computer with a 2.0 ghz processor.

skate71290
Jun 13, 2010, 01:07 PM
There are no 5400rpm 1.8" HDs AFAIK. Even the current gen uses 4200rpm http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook-air/stats/macbook-air-core-2-duo-1.86-13-mid-2009-specs.html

My Bad, i just presumed that the 1.6GHZ model (Rev A.) was the only MBA to use the PATA 4200RPM and the rest have been equipped with 5400RPM ATA

skate71290
Jun 13, 2010, 01:09 PM
skate71290 your terribly mistaken, my macbook air 1.6 ghz runs 1080p video flawlessly through quicktime offline. u dont have to have a computer with a 2.0 ghz processor.

How do you do it, just using Quicktime? I presume you are running HD Movies bought off the Apple Store? Because i cannot, no matter what i do run 1080p MKV files, in either Quicktime X/7 or VLC

seeyou
Jun 13, 2010, 01:27 PM
skate71290 your terribly mistaken, my macbook air 1.6 ghz runs 1080p video flawlessly through quicktime offline. u dont have to have a computer with a 2.0 ghz processor.

Can you make a movie ? 720p or 1080p if you got the time ?

ps: i really hope my english is understable ;)

Scottsdale
Jun 13, 2010, 01:31 PM
Unless you're willing to wait for an update to the MacBook Air, I wouldn't suggest you buy it either. It's just a bad value right now, as it hasn't really been updated since October 2008. In theory and use, it's an amazing Mac but the value is terrible.

I wouldn't push you into a MBP either though. I would say wait and see if the MBA gets an update in the next month. But whatever you do, go with an SSD.

If you do wait, I think you could be rewarded greatly. I really think the potential updates to the MBA could make it just as capable as a MacBook which is all you need.

Good luck.

seeyou
Jun 13, 2010, 01:47 PM
I juste found this :

# 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
# 4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
# 128GB solid-state drive
# Aucun(e)
# Clavier rÓtro-ÓclairÓ (Franšais) & Guide de l'utilisateur (Franšais)
# Aucun(e)
# SuperDrive 8x (DVD▒R DL/DVD▒RW/CD-RW)

MBP 1464€ for same price as MBA :eek:.

I take this one tomorrow ! .

Thanks again for your help .. first mac with SSD yeah ! :cool:

MacRuler
Jun 13, 2010, 02:28 PM
dude just use any 1080p video, its not that big of a deal, mine does it perfectly fine

skate71290
Jun 13, 2010, 02:40 PM
dude just use any 1080p video, its not that big of a deal, mine does it perfectly fine

Again how? My MBA will not run 720/1080p smoothly no matter what i do, it's annoying!

1rottenapple
Jun 13, 2010, 02:47 PM
Regardless... get an SSD.

/Jim

Man speaking from personal experience, the MBA is a pig when it comes to playing 720p video. I knonw my rev and and rev b MBA were able yo play flash and silverlighy for the first 10mins but the video starts to stuffer after that and nearly unwatchable. I'm bitter with the MBA experience afte spending 2100 on it and not being able to do the basic things that a $1000 computer could do with it's eyes closed. Stick with the regular mb or Mbp IMO. Better battery, better heat control, better processor, better memory, better capabilities, and for a lower price. You are goingyo be pissed off and disappointed with the mac experience if you bought a MBA IMO.

Who knows. Some people say it's able to play HD video fine, but all I know I spend $1700 for the rev A and $2100 for the rev B with ssd, and it's absolutely rediculous how ****** it performed my personal experience.

seeyou
Jun 13, 2010, 03:15 PM
Man speaking from personal experience, the MBA is a pig when it comes to playing 720p video. I knonw my rev and and rev b MBA were able yo play flash and silverlighy for the first 10mins but the video starts to stuffer after that and nearly unwatchable. I'm bitter with the MBA experience afte spending 2100 on it and not being able to do the basic things that a $1000 computer could do with it's eyes closed. Stick with the regular mb or Mbp IMO. Better battery, better heat control, better processor, better memory, better capabilities, and for a lower price. You are goingyo be pissed off and disappointed with the mac experience if you bought a MBA IMO.

Who knows. Some people say it's able to play HD video fine, but all I know I spend $1700 for the rev A and $2100 for the rev B with ssd, and it's absolutely rediculous how ****** it performed my personal experience.

Thank you very much for your advice .

You think than the mbp is able to play 720 or maybe 1080p without problem ? .:apple::confused:

MacRuler
Jun 13, 2010, 03:17 PM
http://www.h264info.com/clips.html

go down the page until you find a 1080p video, once it downloaded i just scrolled my track pad to it and pressed the little play button in the middle of the icon, then put it to full screen, it runs perfect for me. I will say the battery life is not good though.

Hellhammer
Jun 13, 2010, 03:20 PM
Thank you very much for your advice .

You think than the mbp is able to play 720 or maybe 1080p without problem ? .:apple::confused:

High quality Flash videos may struggle in fullscreen but that's because of poor Flash for OS X. E.g. Apple trailers work fine

MacRuler
Jun 13, 2010, 03:29 PM
i recommend clicktoflash it works great for flash videos. also with the flash beta its not that bad on my macbook air 1.6 ghz so i bet the mbp handles it just fine.

seeyou
Jun 13, 2010, 04:40 PM
High quality Flash videos may struggle in fullscreen but that's because of poor Flash for OS X. E.g. Apple trailers work fine

HD flash stutter on my laptop too .. so :p.(pc)

But if i download the trailer can i see it without problem ? . Like apple trailers

Thanks again

Scottsdale
Jun 13, 2010, 09:54 PM
Again how? My MBA will not run 720/1080p smoothly no matter what i do, it's annoying!

You're running it inside of a browser then. If you run it outside of a browser, it does the job just fine. The problem isn't Adobe's when it comes to Flash either. Apple has withheld access to the APIs for h.264 hardware acceleration. With the newest Flash 10.1 builds, it's much better. In addition, all HD playback apps should be updated as Apple finally opened up h.264 API access a month or so ago.

Also, it's assuming you have a v 2,1 MBA. The Intel GMA isn't going to use h.264 nor OpenGL and provide a superior experience. BTW, what display are you sending your 1080p signal to?

Anyone that wants to blame Adobe needs to install Windows 7 on their MBA and see just how liable Adobe is. The MBA's hardware is PERFECTLY capable if OS X is taken out of the equation. Microsoft has given Windows users by far the best graphics system advancements, drivers, and OpenGL. Windows proves that HD isn't a problem and neither is Adobe's Flash as either run absolutely perfectly on my MBA in Windows 7. People need to put the blame where it's due, on Apple for not wanting it's users to have an incredible experience and blocking access to hardware that would provide a better user experience for OS X users.

askduds
Jun 14, 2010, 05:55 AM
Yes, MacBook Air can do those things just fine. Keep in mind that MacBook is cheaper, faster and has twice as good battery, not forgetting an extra USB too. Low-end MacBook Air also has 4200rpm hard drive which is painfully slow thus if you can, get the high-end MBA with SSD.

Currently, I don't find MBA being a good deal so personally, I would either wait for an update or get a MacBook (Pro)

Yeah I'm kinda holding out for an update, it'd be my first Mac too.

The trouble is I know the pro might be the better option (although my concern is mostly RAM) but my god is the air gorgeous and if I'm going to pay massively over the odds for a laptop (and even the pro is massively overpriced compared to normal laptops) then I'm damn well getting the pretty one.

soph
Jun 14, 2010, 07:24 AM
The trouble is I know the pro might be the better option (although my concern is mostly RAM) but my god is the air gorgeous and if I'm going to pay massively over the odds for a laptop (and even the pro is massively overpriced compared to normal laptops) then I'm damn well getting the pretty one.

:D That's the spirit!

gwsat
Jun 14, 2010, 05:05 PM
Yeah I'm kinda holding out for an update, it'd be my first Mac too.

The trouble is I know the pro might be the better option (although my concern is mostly RAM) but my god is the air gorgeous and if I'm going to pay massively over the odds for a laptop (and even the pro is massively overpriced compared to normal laptops) then I'm damn well getting the pretty one.
You and I have fallen in love with the MBA for exactly the same reasons. No laptop ever made was as gorgeous, and its light weight, 3 pounds, is damned near miraculous. Nevertheless, I would never recommend that any prospective entrant into the Mac laptop world buy an MBA as his first computer right now.

Even if the MBA is updated with 4Gb of RAM, a faster chip and better graphics, I would still think carefully before passing over the excellent 13 inch MBP. Even if you added an SSD to a base MBP it would still cost less than the SSD equipped MBA. If you wanted to go all out you could upgrade its RAM to 8Gb for less than $300. It would be a close call, though.

pharmx
Jun 14, 2010, 06:01 PM
You and I have fallen in love with the MBA for exactly the same reasons. No laptop ever made was as gorgeous, and its light weight, 3 pounds, is damned near miraculous. Nevertheless, I would never recommend that any prospective entrant into the Mac laptop world buy an MBA as his first computer right now.

Even if the MBA is updated with 4Gb of RAM, a faster chip and better graphics, I would still think carefully before passing over the excellent 13 inch MBP. Even if you added an SSD to a base MBP it would still cost less than the SSD equipped MBA. If you wanted to go all out you could upgrade its RAM to 8Gb for less than $300. It would be a close call, though.

I also recommend against getting an MBA as a first Mac laptop, ESPECIALLY if it gets updated with more RAM, bigger SSD, and dare I say optimized drivers (especially for graphics)...you would be so spoiled by the experience that you'll never look at notebooks the same way again, and as a result wouldn't be able to go back to any other "ordinary" ultra-portable mobile computer! :p

Although I have owned various Apple products over the years, the MBA was my first "Mac". At the time I purchased it I was looking for the equivalent of a 13" MBP (which wasn't available yet...lol, I still remember the look on the Apple employee's face when I suggested that they should make such a model), and almost bought the 15" MBP, and after deciding it was just too big, the high end MB. But after playing around with the MBA at the Apple store, I couldn't stop thinking about how much I liked the aesthetic design, and knew I would not be happy unless I had one. In retrospect, one of the best decisions I've ever made, since it has become my favorite laptop, dethroning my Voodoo Envy and Sony Vaio Z, which are currently gathering dust. In fact, I even stopped using my desktop (custom built PC) due to the wonderful "Mac experience" my Air provides. Of course, everyone's "wants" and "needs" are different, so take my experience with a grain of salt! ;)

seeyou
Jun 15, 2010, 01:51 PM
My MBp will be delivered tomorrow !:cool:

I'm so exited :apple:

Tx again guy's :eek: