New SP 1.8 GHz PowerMac Devoper Note

[Sun Baked]

The new Single Processor 1.8 GHz PowerMac G5 Developer Note (http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G5/PowerMacG5_SP/index.html) is out.

The architecture sure makes it look like a headless iMac, compared to the DP 1.8

SP 1.8 GHz PowerMac G5

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G5/PowerMacG5_SP/art/040687001704_01.gif

compare it to

iMac G5 (http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G5/iMacG5/art/040654001701_01.gif) or Rev. B DP PowerMac 1.8 (http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G5/PowerMacG5/art/040177001721_01b.gif) or Rev. B DP 2.0/2.5 PowerMac (http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G5/PowerMacG5/art/040177001721_01c.gif)

[Sun Baked]

Add to that this....

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G5/PowerMacG5_SP/art/040687001704_13.jpg

The picture from the pre-Rev. B service manual. ;)

[Devie]

Not really on the subject, but can you self install Bluetooth and Airport in the PM?

[Sun Baked]

Not really on the subject, but can you self install Bluetooth and Airport in the PM?Bluetooth is a BTO option if you want the internal USB chipcard (non-standard USB port), otherwise you can use a 3rd party USB module later if you don't mind it taking up a external USB.

Aiport is a user installable item.

[TorbX]

So they wanted it to be like a headless iMac, but did not care to built a new case for it? Or...?

[TorbX]

BTW, how would this thing do (performance) compared to an iMac?

[Sun Baked]

BTW, how would this thing do (performance) compared to an iMac?Since they are running the the same architecture, they should test out nearly identical (if you set them up the same.)

[Devie]

Bluetooth is a BTO option if you want the internal USB chipcard (non-standard USB port), otherwise you can use a 3rd party USB module later if you don't mind it taking up a external USB.

Aiport is a user installable item.
Cheers :D. I'd prolly not worry about getting it BTO then, since I will probably buy a BT mouse later on...

[dejo]

The architecture sure makes it look like a headless iMac, compared to the DP 1.8

Can you provide specific examples for your statement? Is it because it uses the U3 Lite and Shasta versus the U3H and K2?

[Sun Baked]

Can you provide specific examples for your statement? Is it because it uses the U3 Lite and Shasta versus the U3H and K2?For awhile the consumer machines and the Pro desktops have used two different chipset...

The new SP 1.8 PowerMac is running the iMac chipset (U3L/Shasta), while the DP 1.8 PowerMac is running the PowerMac/XServe chipset (U3/K2.x) -- less the HT PCI-X bridge chip and no U3H (ecc support for xserve, and faster HT) like the 2.0/2.5 big brother.

Not the first time we've had consumer chipsets in pro-machines, the PowerBooks made the switch from the SDR PowerMac chipset (UniNorth 1.x/KeyLargo) to DDR consumer chipset (Intrepid) with the introduction of DDR memory.

Don't forget we also had a PowerMac chipset in the SDR eMac (UniNorth/KeyLargo) until it switched to the DDR Intrepid chipset with the introduction of DDR recently.

[TorbX]

Im not reall into graphics cards, but... if we step it up a noch from the 5200 ultra-thing with 64 mb ram to the 9800 (?) one with 128 mb... how will thos computer do with gaming? Doom 3 or whatever...

In 3 years, when a new bad-ass graphics card is out, can I put it in?

[TorbX]

This G5 could be tha bomb for me...

I have an LCD screen from before. VGA-thing. Can I use it with this G5?

Is this machine a good purchase, would you say? I'm a iMac G5 byer-kind of guy, the graphics card is the only thing bugging me..

[Sun Baked]

I have an LCD screen from before. VGA-thing. Can I use it with this G5?

Is this machine a good purchase, would you say? I'm a iMac G5 byer-kind of guy, the graphics card is the only thing bugging me..Yes you should be able to, includes a DVI to VGA adapter in the box.

Which make the machine perfect for those who already have spent the money on a monitor or like to be able to have some room to grow (inside the box.)

[aafuss1]

Vesta-must be a new name for the FireWire PHY IC.

[wrldwzrd89]

This G5 could be tha bomb for me...

I have an LCD screen from before. VGA-thing. Can I use it with this G5?

Is this machine a good purchase, would you say? I'm a iMac G5 byer-kind of guy, the graphics card is the only thing bugging me..
You'll need a DVI-to-VGA adapter to use that LCD with a PowerMac G5 (personally, I don't see the point of an LCD that uses anything other than DVI as its interface). The graphics card should be upgradable, to a point. When PCI-Express appears in Macs as the connection of choice for graphics cards, you'll have hit a dead end as far as graphics card upgrades go. I'd certainly buy that SP 1.8 GHz G5 if it was in my market segment (if I was going to buy a new Mac today, it would be a Dual 2.0 GHz PowerMac G5).