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iGav
Oct 22, 2004, 09:58 AM
1 atom thick!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

so if you had a big enough sheet of the stuff... say A4 size... what would it be like??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3944651.stm



FelixDerKater
Oct 22, 2004, 10:50 AM
Neat.

Suddenly the price of a package of paper shoots into the millions of dollars.

MacRy
Oct 22, 2004, 11:35 AM
Imagine the paper cuts from it.....oooh

iGav
Oct 22, 2004, 12:32 PM
could something the thickness of an atom and the size of a sheet of A4 be seen?? how would it look??

Blue Velvet
Oct 22, 2004, 01:19 PM
could something the thickness of an atom and the size of a sheet of A4 be seen?? how would it look??

You would think that ordinary light might not have the necessary wavelength: hence electron microscopes.

Just a guess...

jared_kipe
Oct 22, 2004, 02:00 PM
I was going to bring that up, depending on the linear density of the substance, it would be hard to "see" it at all. Weakly interacting particals like photons or neutrinos wouldn't interact much as there isn't much substance to interact with. Nor would charged or strongly interacting particals interact much because the barrier they would need to penetrate would be so "small" that tunneling would be easy. So I would think it would be difficult to "see" without the aid of electron microscopes or scanning tunneling microscopes.

srobert
Oct 22, 2004, 02:29 PM
Reading the previous posts, this could be the single most important advancement in the field of Lingerie since the use of whale bones in corset! :D

No really, back on topic. I wonder if this could eventually used in other applications than electronics and superconductors. I wonder how resistant / light this "fabric" is.

wdlove
Oct 22, 2004, 02:49 PM
This discovery of a one atom thick fabric sounds awesome. Sounds like we will have to wait and see the future nanofabrics.

stevehaslip
Oct 22, 2004, 03:15 PM
Reading the previous posts, this could be the single most important advancement in the field of Lingerie since the use of whale bones in corset! :D

No really, back on topic. I wonder if this could eventually used in other applications than electronics and superconductors. I wonder how resistant / light this "fabric" is.

LOL!
This seems like a real breakthrough but 10 years! We will have to wait for lightspeed nano tech.

edit, just thought of this. If you had a piece of the material infront of you say A4 sized then would it be totally invisible or would you be able to see a slight distortion as the light passes through it? How thick do you think it would have to be for you to be able to see it?

srobert
Oct 22, 2004, 03:22 PM
How thick do you think it would have to be for you to be able to see it?

I you make it any thicker, it's no longer 1-atom thick material. :)

Kiff! We have a conundrum! (http://homepage.mac.com/srobert/.Pictures/Other%20pics/conundrum.mp3)

iGav
Oct 22, 2004, 03:23 PM
edit, just thought of this. If you had a piece of the material infront of you say A4 sized then would it be totally invisible or would you be able to see a slight distortion as the light passes through it? How thick do you think it would have to be for you to be able to see it?

that's whats being bothering me... it'll be thin that's for sure... but its surface area will still be A4 sized... so would it actually be invisible when seen face on??

iGav
Oct 22, 2004, 03:25 PM
I you make it thicker, it's no longer 1-atom thick material. :)

I think what he means is the surface area, if you look at it face on (210mmx297mm) then surely you'd see it??

srobert
Oct 22, 2004, 03:27 PM
I think what he means is the surface area, if you look at it face on (210mmx297mm) then surely you'd see it??

1-atom thick? Light's wavelenght... I don't understand anymore... Ah! Got! It! MAGIC!

So simple.

raynegus
Oct 22, 2004, 04:20 PM
Does this mean G5 powerbooks soon?

AliensAreFuzzy
Oct 22, 2004, 06:10 PM
Does this mean G5 powerbooks soon?
LOL.
Of course, but it's not for 10 years :rolleyes:

Thomas Veil
Oct 23, 2004, 02:58 AM
Radical fabric is one atom thick

1 atom thick!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Actually, they've come pretty close to this before.

Ever see Dolly Parton in a too-tight T-shirt?

J.Allen
Oct 23, 2004, 03:49 AM
Actually, they've come pretty close to this before.
Ever see Dolly Parton in a too-tight T-shirt?
I'm glad to say NO

you may need some help, I'm haveing trouble just imagining it.

stevehaslip
Oct 24, 2004, 08:48 AM
think about a piece of hair, it has many atoms in it when you look at it under a microscope. But how hard is it to see a hair? I don't think that you'd be able to see it, you can't see spiders webs half the time and how big are they?

(I think) this stuff would be nearly invisible, can anyone comment for sure? any scientists about?

jared_kipe
Oct 24, 2004, 12:35 PM
think about a piece of hair, it has many atoms in it when you look at it under a microscope. But how hard is it to see a hair? I don't think that you'd be able to see it, you can't see spiders webs half the time and how big are they?

(I think) this stuff would be nearly invisible, can anyone comment for sure? any scientists about?

I already did comment ;)

jared_kipe
Oct 24, 2004, 12:39 PM
Oh and it would probably be near transparent, but work as a defraction sheet. But it wouldn't work well as a defraction sheet because most atom and crystal defraction works on the basis of there being many evenly spaced atoms through a crystalline lattice. It would of course be easy to see with a scanning tunneling microscope. but to the naked eye and normal microscope you would probably see interference lines, not the surface itself.

stevehaslip
Oct 24, 2004, 05:23 PM
I already did comment ;)

thanks, sorry only just noticed your original post! that'll teach me for reading too quick! its good to know there are some scienists using macs too! :D

BrianKonarsMac
Oct 24, 2004, 05:59 PM
staring at it head on would be similar to looking through a ultra-fine mesh screen. you'd see distortion of light (very little) but you wouldn't see an actual solid surface. looking at it any other way than head on would most likely render it "invisible" to the naked eye.

Thomas Veil
Oct 24, 2004, 11:38 PM
I'm glad to say NO

you may need some help, I'm haveing trouble just imagining it.
Ooooooo-kay....