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MythicFrost
Jul 31, 2010, 07:10 PM
Hey,

I'm needing advice... I currently have the previous gen 27" i7 iMac, and I don't know which is better value to go for.

The 27" iMac comes to $3,268 US with 4GB of RAM, i7 CPU, 2TB HD + 256GB SSD, and AppleCare. And I'd buy an Intel X25-M G2 160GB SSD to replace the 256GB SSD.

Otherwise, the 27" screen is $999. The Mac Pro six-core @ 3.33, 6GB RAM, 1TB HD, 5870, would be about $4k right?

Obviously, I'd prefer the Mac Pro, and I'm thinking that would be the better machine to go for as the GPU is upgradable and I wouldn't have to upgrade each year for the GPU performance, not that the 5850M is anywhere near as good as the 5870 1GB though.



leman
Jul 31, 2010, 07:30 PM
What do you need the machine for? Sounds to me like you are into hardcore gaming. If so, you should probably get a PC. MacPro is an overkill unless you are doing professional photo/video editing or statistical simulations.

MythicFrost
Jul 31, 2010, 08:08 PM
What do you need the machine for? Sounds to me like you are into hardcore gaming. If so, you should probably get a PC. MacPro is an overkill unless you are doing professional photo/video editing or statistical simulations.
Nah, I'd rather not get a PC, haha. I'm a programmer, primarily, so I run several Windows VMs with Parallels, and do web design, graphic design, etc. I also use XCode for iDevice apps.

Hardcore gaming, well, I like to run things as high as I possibly can on a 27" monitor :p and, I can always overclock the 5870 in the Mac Pro, since they have such good cooling. A bit more comforting something going wrong with a ~400 card than an irreplaceable (afaik) 5850M.

tunerX
Jul 31, 2010, 08:19 PM
Nah, I'd rather not get a PC, haha. I'm a programmer, primarily, so I run several Windows VMs with Parallels, and do web design, graphic design, etc. I also use XCode for iDevice apps.

Hardcore gaming, well, I like to run things as high as I possibly can on a 27" monitor :p and, I can always overclock the 5870 in the Mac Pro, since they have such good cooling. A bit more comforting something going wrong with a ~400 card than an irreplaceable (afaik) 5850M.

For me, I got sick of maintaining a separate tower and needing a special place to put it.

drjsway
Jul 31, 2010, 09:00 PM
Hey,

I'm needing advice... I currently have the previous gen 27" i7 iMac, and I don't know which is better value to go for.

The 27" iMac comes to $3,268 US with 4GB of RAM, i7 CPU, 2TB HD + 256GB SSD, and AppleCare. And I'd buy an Intel X25-M G2 160GB SSD to replace the 256GB SSD.

Otherwise, the 27" screen is $999. The Mac Pro six-core @ 3.33, 6GB RAM, 1TB HD, 5870, would be about $4k right?.

Well, a good chunk of your iMac configuration comes from the 2TB + 256SSD, which you left off of your MacPro.

MythicFrost
Jul 31, 2010, 09:07 PM
Well, a good chunk of your iMac configuration comes from the 2TB + 256SSD, which you left off of your MacPro.
I know, however I could pick up a 2TB HD and easily add it to the Mac Pro later for about the same price as it is to upgrade from the 1TB to the 2TB in the iMac. Also, I don't want Apple's 256GB SSD. Which means I have to go through the hassle of selling it, I imagine I'd make somewhat of a loss on it too.

joejoejoe
Jul 31, 2010, 09:19 PM
I know, however I could pick up a 2TB HD and easily add it to the Mac Pro later for about the same price as it is to upgrade from the 1TB to the 2TB in the iMac. Also, I don't want Apple's 256GB SSD. Which means I have to go through the hassle of selling it, I imagine I'd make somewhat of a loss on it too.

Why don't you want the Apple SSD?

MythicFrost
Jul 31, 2010, 10:13 PM
Why don't you want the Apple SSD?
Well, primarily because I don't know the brand. I know that in terms of random read & writes, etc. and the little things that matter, that the Intel X25-M G2 160GB is the best or is at least in the top 3 (it was the best when released).

Do you happen to know what SSD they use? 256GB would be good for me, I've only ever used an Intel SSD and I don't trust anything else.

zedsdead
Jul 31, 2010, 10:17 PM
It sounds like you need a tower, so I would go with the Mac Pro. You could sell the iMac to help fund it if that's what you need to do, or you can use it as a monitor since it excepts mini-displayport inputs.

joejoejoe
Jul 31, 2010, 10:18 PM
Well, primarily because I don't know the brand. I know that in terms of random read & writes, etc. and the little things that matter, that the Intel X25-M G2 160GB is the best or is at least in the top 3 (it was the best when released).

Do you happen to know what SSD they use? 256GB would be good for me, I've only ever used an Intel SSD and I don't trust anything else.

I remember reading some discussions throughout the past few days on the iMac forum about what the SSD might be.

Do a search and check out what people say. My honest opinion is that you shouldn't switch it out. If memory serves right tue discussions concluded that it's a very good SSD. Of course there are options out there that are better, but would you really notice the increase in performance? Even if you could (doubtful) would it be worth losing $$ AND capacity?

Hisdem
Jul 31, 2010, 10:18 PM
Apple's SSD on notebooks is Toshiba branded. Can't tell if the iMac uses the same though.

MythicFrost
Jul 31, 2010, 10:39 PM
It sounds like you need a tower, so I would go with the Mac Pro. You could sell the iMac to help fund it if that's what you need to do, or you can use it as a monitor since it excepts mini-displayport inputs.
I think I'd sell it, I'd rather not use it as a monitor.
I remember reading some discussions throughout the past few days on the iMac forum about what the SSD might be.

Do a search and check out what people say. My honest opinion is that you shouldn't switch it out. If memory serves right tue discussions concluded that it's a very good SSD. Of course there are options out there that are better, but would you really notice the increase in performance? Even if you could (doubtful) would it be worth losing $$ AND capacity?
I'll do a search and check it out. It depends, if the difference isn't greatly noticeable, then I'd say it wouldn't be worth it
Apple's SSD on notebooks is Toshiba branded. Can't tell if the iMac uses the same though.
Ah interesting, thanks.