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iGav
Dec 3, 2004, 05:33 AM
Cool... then I'd get to see the year 2525! :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

thoughts? would anyone like to live for a thousand years? what would happen in countries like India and China both of which have ridiculous birthrates?

edesignuk
Dec 3, 2004, 05:38 AM
I would HATE to live to 1,000.

MacDawg
Dec 3, 2004, 05:40 AM
Not likely :rolleyes:

Good grief, how long will his beard be when he is 1,000??

iGav
Dec 3, 2004, 05:45 AM
I would HATE to live to 1,000.

even with Ms Knightley by your side??

edesignuk
Dec 3, 2004, 05:58 AM
even with Ms Knightley by your side??
Even then :eek:

edit: wait...hmmmmm...lemme think about it...:D ;)

AmigoMac
Dec 3, 2004, 06:45 AM
Can they start with a nice CEO in Cupertino? ;)

Isnn'tt iit cooool tooo beee iin Saan Fraaancisssco?

-Damn, I have done this 1000 times!!!

:rolleyes:

Mr. Anderson
Dec 3, 2004, 06:46 AM
1000 Years? Would you be able to remember anything from your first century of life by that time? It would be weird in many ways, but I wouldn't mind living several hundred years. And this has some great potential for space travel :D Taking 20 years to make it to a neighboring star wouldn't be that big of a deal - provided you could handle 20 years in a space ship ;)

D

broken_keyboard
Dec 3, 2004, 07:07 AM
I don't think someone with a beard that crazy will solve aging.

Wouldn't it be a bummer if we turn out to be the last generation to have to die? People born only 50 years from now get to choose how long they want to live, and we never got to choose.

sushi
Dec 3, 2004, 07:50 AM
Cool... then I'd get to see the year 2525! :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

thoughts? would anyone like to live for a thousand years? what would happen in countries like India and China both of which have ridiculous birthrates?
You bet ya. I would love to live to be 1,000 years old.

One thing is for sure, one would probably have multiple careers over that timeframe. Can you imagine being married for say, 500 years of that 1,000 years? Talk about knowning your partner!

Or how about kids. If you have a kid when you are 100, and they have a kid when they are 100, and that pattern follows, you would end up being a great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather.

...then again, what it this happened like it does now?! Hard to fathom.

Sushi

broken_keyboard
Dec 3, 2004, 08:06 AM
One thing is for sure, one would probably have multiple careers over that timeframe. Can you imagine being married for say, 500 years of that 1,000 years? Talk about knowning your partner!

Yes, good points. Or imagine you're just starting out in the workforce and you have to compete with someone with 500 years experience! :eek:

DavidLeblond
Dec 3, 2004, 08:18 AM
If I was able to live most of that time with the body of a 25-50 year old then I'd be all for living 1000 years. But if my body just got older and older and older and I started having all the problems (aches and pains and a cough that won't go away) of a 100 (or 500) year old then I say no thank you, I'll gladly die at 90.

God just think how 600 year old drivers will be! (joking, joking!)

edit:
By the way, if everyone lived 1000 years we'd probably have a real big overpopulation problem.

edit edit:
It would be awesome if for once I read an article before I commented on it.
And remember, none of that time would be lived in frailty and debility and dependence - you would be youthful, both physically and mentally, right up to the day you mis-time the speed of that oncoming lorry.

No more edits!

WinterMute
Dec 3, 2004, 08:21 AM
Depends on what kind of state I'm in, I'd want to be physically able, mentally alert and able to enjoy Kiera on a regular basis. :eek:

Other than that, bring it on, if only to see what kind of advances technology makes in that time.

edesignuk
Dec 3, 2004, 08:23 AM
Depends on what kind of state I'm in, I'd want to be physically able, mentally alert and able to enjoy Kiera on a regular basis. :eek: hey hey hey hey hey hey hey, hold up there! :p

DavidLeblond
Dec 3, 2004, 08:23 AM
Depends on what kind of state I'm in, I'd want to be physically able, mentally alert and able to enjoy Kiera on a regular basis. :eek:


You'd probably want her physically able as well. :D Or not :eek:

blackfox
Dec 3, 2004, 08:27 AM
personally, I don't think it will be as easy as is implied, even if we did manage to fix the myriad of things that go wrong that lead to aging and death (a big if), then I have a feeling that Nature would respond and level the playing field somewhat.

Even if successful (or partially), I do worry about this being available to the rich and powerful more than the layman, much like genetic-engineering social strata popularized in Gattaca.

Whatever, I might finally have the time to learn all the languages I've been wanting to, if I only had the time...

Mr. Anderson
Dec 3, 2004, 08:29 AM
Mentally, it might be a challenge - because as you start to get older, you you have regular patterns of living your life and as many parents and grandparents know, the generation gap becomes an issue.

As long as there are enough people in your own age bracket, it would be ok - but think about having to deal with kids in 500 years - it wouldn't resemble anything like a kid growing up today...

D

sgarringer
Dec 3, 2004, 08:45 AM
Yes, good points. Or imagine you're just starting out in the workforce and you have to compete with someone with 500 years experience! :eek:

Maybe finally someone would have the expierence they're looking for to get hired as an UNIX admin!

In all seriousness, no way would I want to live for 1000 years. The only people who could really enjoy it are those who are rich beyond belief. For the rest of us it'd be just another 900 years of the 9 to 5.

sushi
Dec 3, 2004, 10:06 AM
Depends on what kind of state I'm in, I'd want to be physically able, mentally alert and able to enjoy Kiera on a regular basis. :eek:
You might have to share! :D

Sushi

sushi
Dec 3, 2004, 10:13 AM
As long as there are enough people in your own age bracket, it would be ok - but think about having to deal with kids in 500 years - it wouldn't resemble anything like a kid growing up today...
Or the folks with their remember when stories.

Can you imagine one of these types with over 800 years worth of stories. It would be enough to drive one crazy!

Sushi

stoid
Dec 3, 2004, 10:28 AM
If life spans entered many hundreds of years, it would be obvious which people were dying young from smoking. Tobacco companies might finally going out of business for their slow poisoning of society.

ravenvii
Dec 3, 2004, 10:43 AM
I totally wouldn't mind living 1,000 years! Imagine the history that would happen during that time! And maybe when I'm 200, they'll figure out how to extend that to 50,000 years!...

Ok, maybe that's just too long. :D

About the 9 to 5 thing... if you're smart, you will get a good education and get a job that's over $100,000 a year. Now, live like a poor SOB. And put that money into places where it will earn good interest. Now, work for about 20 years, and you get about $2 million if you're good. Now quit your job, and live off your interest earnings of $2-4 hundred thousand a year.

wdlove
Dec 3, 2004, 11:00 AM
It would be quit a feat to live to be a 1000! I don't see this occurring anytime soon. The more important thing than longevity is the quality of life. My preference would to be mentally and physically active. Medical science doesn't have the ability to cure any the of disabling diseases at the moment. Current gene research certainly has the capacity to begin tacking these diseases in the future.

Tusk
Dec 3, 2004, 11:03 AM
Only 935 years until retirement. :(

apple2991
Dec 3, 2004, 11:12 AM
If life spans entered many hundreds of years, it would be obvious which people were dying young from smoking. Tobacco companies might finally going out of business for their slow poisoning of society.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

jayscheuerle
Dec 3, 2004, 12:21 PM
Great! Instead of wasting 12 years of our life in front of the television, we could waste 80!

Seriously, how many people do you see putting their 70+ years to good use? All it would do is give people more time to procrastinate!

Population control would get to be a SERIOUS problem... There are more people alive right now on earth than the total of all people who have ever lived before. Ouch...

ejb190
Dec 3, 2004, 12:25 PM
There goes Social Security.....

Drgnhntr
Dec 3, 2004, 02:34 PM
The sad thing with this is that a lot of these technologies could be in use sooner. Take a quick look at who would stand to lose if this happened. Who makes insulin for diabetics? Arthritis drugs? Blood pressure, cholesterol, viagra, Botox... etc. Drug companies make a lot of money off of aging, not to mention other diseases, and they will fight tooth and nail to protect their cash cow.

A lot of potential research dollars are steered away from ideas like this for other drugs, that "treat" diseases, rather than "cure" diseases.

The sad fact of a capitalist society is that there is no money in curing people.

mpw
Dec 3, 2004, 02:53 PM
Will we ever be able to live to 1000?

No. Assuming that to do so would slow each stage of our lives that would mean that a generation wouldn't die for another 9 or so generations and may well just keep producing more offspring who'd do likewise and so on. Eventually the sheer numbers of people would make the planet so heavy it would fall out of it's current orbit and slowly spiral ever closer to the sun. Imagine standing shoulder to shoulder with 100 billion other pensioners in 120 degree heat. Not a great retirement.

AmigoMac
Dec 3, 2004, 03:28 PM
It would be cool to say in 950 years:

I use mac since 1984, hey guys, do you remember the ad in the superbowl?? ;)

Metatron
Dec 3, 2004, 03:35 PM
Mabey I am just to religious, but I do not think that God will ever let that happen. Remember, man used to live to be a thousand in the time when God created man. I believe Adam died at 932 years old or something around that. Then the time of man's life was reduced to 120 years.

I definatly think God created us with the ability to engineer ourselves to live longer. We were made in his likeness.

The last time man did something on this scale, it was called the Tower of Babal. And God changes the languages they spoke so that none could understand one another. We have since then overcome that day with the creation of instant translators and the net. I am curious to see how far God will let us go again.

Plus, leaving on earth is hell as it is. I would rather do my 70 as God promised and get done with it.

edit: plus with great wisdom, like leaving 1000 years, demands great responsobility. People would not be resposibly enough to not overpopulate the earth as many have already mentioned. But space travel could fix that problem. I might be willing to leave a 1000 year if I can start my race of people on mars. A true Martian, that would rule.

jayscheuerle
Dec 3, 2004, 03:45 PM
Will we ever be able to live to 1000?

No. Assuming that to do so would slow each stage of our lives that would mean that a generation wouldn't die for another 9 or so generations and may well just keep producing more offspring who'd do likewise and so on. Eventually the sheer numbers of people would make the planet so heavy it would fall out of it's current orbit and slowly spiral ever closer to the sun. Imagine standing shoulder to shoulder with 100 billion other pensioners in 120 degree heat. Not a great retirement.

Funny. Of course the mass of the planet won't change due to population increase, but what will happen is that some things will have to suffer/disappear/make way for us to expand. Our resources are finite and in a more precarious state than we're capable of understanding now. The balance that achieved will either be pretty or ugly and our track record should have us expecting a lot of ugly. Ugly will last long enough for pretty to be forgotten and we'll settle on "not so ugly" and consider it better than before.

This may very well be a good time to be alive. We don't know what the world will be like in 1000 years (or even 100), but we may not EVEN THEN have the flying cars that Popular Science has been predicting for the past 70 years! :D

jayscheuerle
Dec 3, 2004, 03:47 PM
Mabey I am just to religious, but I do not think that God will ever let that happen. Remember, man used to live to be a thousand in the time when God created man. I believe Adam died at 932 years old or something around that. Then the time of man's life was reduced to 120 years.

I definatly think God created us with the ability to engineer ourselves to live longer. We were made in his likeness.

The last time man did something on this scale, it was called the Tower of Babal. And God changes the languages they spoke so that none could understand one another. We have since then overcome that day with the creation of instant translators and the net. I am curious to see how far God will let us go again.

Plus, leaving on earth is hell as it is. I would rather do my 70 as God promised and get done with it.

edit: plus with great wisdom, like leaving 1000 years, demands great responsobility. People would not be resposibly enough to not overpopulate the earth as many have already mentioned. But space travel could fix that problem. I might be willing to leave a 1000 year if I can start my race of people on mars. A true Martian, that would rule.

Sorry. You can't bring religion into logical discussions. That should be a rule.

I noticed we share a birthday (20th). Have a happy one! - j

Metatron
Dec 7, 2004, 07:25 PM
Sorry. You can't bring religion into logical discussions. That should be a rule.

I noticed we share a birthday (20th). Have a happy one! - j

First off, happy birthday on the 20th to you, and Second, the only logical dicsussion that exsist is the one that is founded on the truth, that being God. The framework of Logic is that it has rules and values that never change. And only God never changes.

I hate that this sound like a religious rant....sorry all.

Spock
Dec 7, 2004, 07:46 PM
Well, trust me You hit 190 and You can feel it.

ravenvii
Dec 7, 2004, 09:03 PM
First off, happy birthday on the 20th to you, and Second, the only logical dicsussion that exsist is the one that is founded on the truth, that being God. The framework of Logic is that it has rules and values that never change. And only God never changes.

I hate that this sound like a religious rant....sorry all.

God is the truth because you believe it. That is not logic, that is faith.

asphalt-proof
Dec 7, 2004, 10:46 PM
I think that even if limited resources were not a problem and there was no danger of overpopulation I think that people would begin to die of literal boredom. Think about it: Part of what makes life vibrant is the new experiences one has in their interactions with others, their environment, and their own self-discovery. Would we be enriched if we lived an extra 50 years? Absolutely. The thrill of life would still be evident. But after 950 years? What will you do on your 823rd birthday that you hadn't already done? Life would become unbearable at a certain point because of ennui. Be careful of what you wish for. you may get it.


"Second, the only logical dicsussion that exsist is the one that is founded on the truth, that being God. The framework of Logic is that it has rules and values that never change. And only God never changes."
Just curious but whose God are you referring to and what set of bellefs are you attibuting to him? The Christian God? Or Allah? Or Buddah? Part of faith is that there it is NOT grounded in logic. Faith' definition is that you can't empically experience 'it' you just believe 'it' to be true. ("Faith is the subtance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1)
Plus if you are referring to the Christian God then reading his book (which he didn't write: that task was left up to others after the fact) you will find all sorts of inconsistences in his word. And finally my personal favorite: God telling the Israelites to kill every man, woman, and child in order to take the land. Any god that resorts to killing children in order to make room for own his people has 'issues' and doesn't seem worthy of worship..

I sweat this conversation comes up every month or so.