It does, I used RF18 for both rips. I guess that didn't come across clearly.
Thanks for the clarification. I was heading out and was reading quickly, so I think I just didn't catch that.
It does, I used RF18 for both rips. I guess that didn't come across clearly.
Just wanted to mention that I have experienced a significant increase in transcoding speed using v0.9.8 with the aTV3 preset. Used to get approx. 26fps and now get approx. 38fps...with standard definition source file. Will see about BR in a few days, but I would hope it would show a similar increase.
I've been reading all of these but haven't found a definitive answer yet.
Is the new Apple TV3 preset in 0.9.8 different from the custom preset that you recommened I do?
My transccode times are just as long using the ATV3 Preset. I'm talking between 15-18 hrs, and not to mention my file sizes are now around 10-11gb as opposed to 3-7gb. This is with running ATV3 with Fast decomb and no other changes.
My transccode times are just as long using the ATV3 Preset. I'm talking between 15-18 hrs, and not to mention my file sizes are now around 10-11gb as opposed to 3-7gb. This is with running ATV3 with Fast decomb and no other changes.
Well, I'll know for sure when I transcode a BR, but both dvd's I transcoded definitely had a higher transcode frame rate than I have seen previously. And I did post anything until I had done a second one to see if it was similar. I guess the old adage, YMMV, might be appropriate here.
Just curious, are you using the 0.9.8?
Yes, I using the new update 0.9.8. It usually averages 2 or 3 FPS. I have run using the Normal setting, adjust the RF down to 18, Fast Decomb and it runs much faster, usually averaging nothing less than 10 FPS. The quality seems very good as well. I'm doing that for my least favorite movies to save some time. Movies that I know I want to see detail, I will use ATV3 even though I cannot see a difference. But, no matter which one I use, I get a lot of judder, if that's what you call it, when scenes move quickly side to side. And no matter what movie I play, ripped Blu Ray or purchased in iTunes, I always notice a little, quick skip. I thought it was the buffering, but it also does it after it completes buffering. I noticed that over my friends house too. Guess it's something to live with.
does anyone know why the Apple TV 3 preset defaults to a FrameRate of 30? Shouldn't it default to "Same as Source?"?
Just wondering...
Thanks
Yep, aware of that. That's why I was looking at an average over a number of movies and I realize my "n=3" is small for 0.9.8. What caught my attention was having an average fps of around 39 for those 3 movies. In all of my past encodes the average fps was around 26 (n>100) I just thought that was interesting as that is not a small difference. But who knows, my next one could be 10 average fps. Just was interested in to whether anyone else had noticed it too, which let to a "weak" comparison of file sizes. But that's all we have at this point.You guys comparing past encodes as far as file size and encoding times do realize that you would have to use the exact same source etc. to have any meaningful information ... right ?
File sizes can balloon big time depending on the type of source content. As well so can the encoding speed. For example the main reason HB will typically run fast at the beginning as well as at the end of a movies is because its often a black scene such as credits, etc. The encoder will slow down as it encounters more complex frames such as detailed, grainy fast motion.
I have tried transcoding a few BluRay movies using both the ATV2 and ATV3 presets in HandBrake 0.9.8. I am pretty consistently seeing the ATV3 preset taking about twice as long and generating an m4v which is about twice as large. On a two year old AMD Athlon II X4, my ATV2 transcodes run in "real time" (takes about as long to transcode as the playing time of the movie). I guess that means I'm getting 24 FPS with the ATV2 preset and 12 FPS with the ATV3 preset.
[09:21:21] work: average encoding speed for job is 41.339725 fps
Well, first off the atv 2 preset does not use any decombing filter, so that *may* explain the speed difference. Plus ... the file size would be twice as large since the atv2 preset downscales to 720p where the atv3 preset allows up to 1080p and if your source is blu ray ... well there you go.
also please realize handbrake tells you what the average encoding fps is near the end of the encode in the activity log ...
work: average encoding speed for job is 41.339725 fps[/CODE]
So your preception of an encoding speed is verified exactly in the hb activity log. Also of course ... if you are doing other cpu intensive tasks it will skew the speed that hb can encode at. In general ... HB will take all of the cpu it can get, that said of course running another cpu intensive task will rob HB of cpu therefore a lower encoding speed.
I checked my saved log files. The ATV2 run went at 24.3 FPS and the ATV3 run went at just 10.3 FPS. The ATV2 output was 2.39GB and the ATV3 output was 5.78 GB. The movie was "Red" - length 1h 51mn.
That's the *Peak* frame rate, which means that it will use "same as source" unless that is greater than 30. This must be to ensure they don't exceed the maximum rate the ATV3 is capable of.
What res was "Red" at ? 1080p ? if so it would explain both the lower encoding speed and larger file.
With a high grain film and it being 3 hours long, that is reasonable. I am at 15GB for "A Few Dollars More" and it's only 92% encoded. Dr. Zhivago was 12GB and was less grainy.I recently encoded a 3 hour movie using ATV3 preset on 0.98. File size was huge - over 18GB. The film does have a lot of grain. Does this make sense even for a 3 hr movie? It does look very good - no discernible difference from original blu-ray but wasn't expecting such a large file.
I recently encoded a 3 hour movie using ATV3 preset on 0.98. File size was huge - over 18GB. The film does have a lot of grain. Does this make sense even for a 3 hr movie? It does look very good - no discernible difference from original blu-ray but wasn't expecting such a large file.
With a high grain film and it being 3 hours long, that is reasonable. I am at 15GB for "A Few Dollars More" and it's only 92% encoded. Dr. Zhivago was 12GB and was less grainy.
With a high grain film and it being 3 hours long, that is reasonable. I am at 15GB for "A Few Dollars More" and it's only 92% encoded. Dr. Zhivago was 12GB and was less grainy.
Update: A Few Dollars More ended up 17GB and took 15hrs to transcode (RF=20)