I upgraded 4S to 5 and having used the new one now several weeks, I am not sure was the upgrade worth of the cost. 4S is a terrific phone and 5 don't add much to that. Slightly bigger screen and a new design. But on the other hand, both models have nice design. Perform wice I think 4S has all the power I needed.
Considering this is one of the fastest Apple products to be discontinued...they should offer a $100 trade-in upgrade program for the 4th gen iPad or SOMETHING. It would create goodwill among the hardcore base, and then they could take customers' iPad 3's which are in perfectly good condition and slap them on the refurb store. It would such easy money lining Apple's pockets, I don't know why they don't do this.
It would be very interesting to see a side by side comparison of how the A6X compares to the new Samsung Exynos 5250
I agree. Apple did it in the past when they announced they started shifting around the iPhone product cycle; they offered the iPhone credit program that was proposed and implemented by SJ as a way to show that 'Apple understands customer loyalty' as a way to offset a new product cycle. This really should have been no different.
The SGX554MP is not double everything of the SGX543MP though. In terms of ALU:TMU:ROP ratio I believe it's something like 8:2:2 vs 4:2:2. So an SGX554MP2 vs a SGX543MP3 works out as 16:4:4 vs 12:6:6. Differences in clock speed will changes things, but assuming equal clock speeds, perhaps Apple wanted to emphasize texture and fill rate for the iPhone 5 vs shader performance.Now that I think of it, going from the SGX543 to the SGX554 there has to be an inherent architecture change which can also help in performance. However, the inherent argument of mine still stands, if the SGX554 (assuming no architecture change) is just double everything of the SGX543, why not use a single SGX554 in the iPhone 5 (assuming you want same performance but less space consumption hence lower TDP)?
The A4 was a very low risk chip since it uses the same Cortex A8 + SGX535 architecture as in the iPhone 3GS and 3rd gen Touch and the same 45nm process first used in the 3rd gen Touch. The A5 used the same 45nm process as the A4 but changed the CPU and GPU architectures to Cortex A9 and SGX543MP2 so was a higher risk part. The A5X was also a relatively safe chip since the CPU is identical, the 45nm process is the same, and the GPU architecture is also the same architecture just doubled. The A6 was also relatively safe as it uses the proven 32nm process from the 32nm A5 and the same SGX543MP architecture just changing the CPU architecture. The issue with the A6X is that because it is introduced a little over a month after the A6, the A6X was developed directly in parallel with the A6 rather than being based off a proven design. As such when compared to the A5X, everything has changed from a 45nm process to a 32 process, Cortex A9 to Swift, SGX543MP to SGX554MP. That makes it risky.Could have, but the risk factor is not the issue. There was a risk factor with the A4, A5 and A6X chips since they are all new tech chips. The only safe bets have been the A5X and A6 (half a safe bet).
http://www.chipworks.com/blog/recentteardowns/2012/11/01/inside-the-apple-ipad-4-a6x-to-be-revealed/I for one would have just used an SGX554 MP2 and give extra graphics processing and used the extra space in the A6 (since one core would have been missing) to lower the chip footprint. Perhaps even add a bit more L1 & L2 caches giving a enhanced CPU capacity. More RAM (1536 MB would have been nice; not that I'm complaining ay 1024MB) could have been added.
I've owned an iPad 3rd gen since launch and think this is awesome news.
I like what they've done to update the iPad, and it doesn't mean mine will suddenly stop working.
Considering this is one of the fastest Apple products to be discontinued...they should offer a $100 trade-in upgrade program for the 4th gen iPad or SOMETHING. It would create goodwill among the hardcore base, and then they could take customers' iPad 3's which are in perfectly good condition and slap them on the refurb store. It would such easy money lining Apple's pockets, I don't know why they don't do this.
The ipad 4 sounds more awesome everyday. But if you buy the ipad 4, you'd only feel as bad when the slimmed down ipad 5 arrives. Nothing but heartaches in the tech game.
Most likely loses. The new mali605 is a new design. The sgx544 not much more than a refreshed sgx543.
In CF-Bench, the Nexus 10 managed a total score of 10,814 (17,377 native; 6,439 Java), while finally we looked at browser JavaScript performance, with SunSpider coming back with 1,419.9ms (faster is better). It’s worth noting that the 4th-gen iPad with Retina display scored 879.2ms in SunSpider.
Yes, the Nexus 10 wins on price — $399 for this incredible display is a nice deal. But consider the extra $100 you'll spend to get the iPad an entry fee to the App Store, and its many apps and accessories that just aren't available to the Nexus 10.
Google's now proven conclusively that it can design great Android hardware, but until developers prove they can design great Android software it's still hard to recommend the Nexus 10 over an iPad.
The SGX554MP is not double everything of the SGX543MP though. In terms of ALU:TMU:ROP ratio I believe it's something like 8:2:2 vs 4:2:2. So an SGX554MP2 vs a SGX543MP3 works out as 16:4:4 vs 12:6:6. Differences in clock speed will changes things, but assuming equal clock speeds, perhaps Apple wanted to emphasize texture and fill rate for the iPhone 5 vs shader performance.
The A4 was a very low risk chip since it uses the same Cortex A8 + SGX535 architecture as in the iPhone 3GS and 3rd gen Touch and the same 45nm process first used in the 3rd gen Touch. The A5 used the same 45nm process as the A4 but changed the CPU and GPU architectures to Cortex A9 and SGX543MP2 so was a higher risk part. The A5X was also a relatively safe chip since the CPU is identical, the 45nm process is the same, and the GPU architecture is also the same architecture just doubled. The A6 was also relatively safe as it uses the proven 32nm process from the 32nm A5 and the same SGX543MP architecture just changing the CPU architecture. The issue with the A6X is that because it is introduced a little over a month after the A6, the A6X was developed directly in parallel with the A6 rather than being based off a proven design. As such when compared to the A5X, everything has changed from a 45nm process to a 32 process, Cortex A9 to Swift, SGX543MP to SGX554MP. That makes it risky.
http://www.chipworks.com/blog/recentteardowns/2012/11/01/inside-the-apple-ipad-4-a6x-to-be-revealed/
There is no extra space saved by using the a SGX554MP2 vs a SGX543MP3. In fact you lose space. The SGX554MP is 8.7mm2 per core while the SGX543MP is 5.4mm2 per core. So a SGX554MP2 takes up 17.4mm2 whie a SGX543MP3 takes up 16.2.
And RAM capacity has little relationship to the SoC die area. In the iPhone the RAM chip(s) is(are) independently stacked on top of the SoC. You can put any size RAM you want. The limitation is RAM technology. I believe the iPhone only uses 1 RAM chip in it's stack and the largest readily available capacity in a single RAM chip is 1GB hence that's what the iPhone 5 uses.
Anyone know how many gflops the PowerVR MBX Lite of the 1st generation iPod touch can do, just so I can cry a bit more?
Remember when the first G4 Mac to break a GFLOP came out - the commercial with the tanks surrounding it because it was "so powerful, the US Government classified it as a weapon." Now our iPads' graphics chips can do 76.8 GFLOPS.