The Razr Maxx HD is only available with 32 GBs of internal memory. It originally sold for the same amount as the 32 gig iPhone 5 and now sells for less. The Note 2 is a tablet sized device and is going to retail for more as a result; otherwise the profit margin would be significantly lower than the s3. Again, your overall thesis is stupid and pointless.
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Is Apple and their iPhone really worth all that comes with it?
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The Razr Maxx HD is only available with 32 GBs of internal memory. It originally sold for the same amount as the 32 gig iPhone 5 and now sells for less. The Note 2 is a tablet sized device and is going to retail for more as a result; otherwise the profit margin would be significantly lower than the s3. Again, your overall thesis is stupid and pointless.
Yes, and the iPhone 5 is $199. How can you say "No my point was that less iPhones would be sold cause they cost some much more than the very equal android phones", when these two Android phones you linked to, are both more expensive and less powerful than the iPhone 5?
If you want AT&T (the only of the big 3 carriers in the US who support the Nexus 4), the Nexus 4 is $100 more expensive than the iPhone 5 ($150 more expensive if you want to match the 16GB that the iPhone 5 comes with standard), while again being significantly less powerful, and slower without LTE. It won't matter that you bought the Nexus 4 unsubsidized either, because your monthly phone bill won't go down.
In all of these scenarios, the iPhone 5 is both cheaper and more powerful. The only situation where the Nexus 4 can be cheaper, is if you take it to a prepaid carrier, assuming they have coverage in your area (no prepaid carrier has more coverage than AT&T or Verizon), and won't throw you off without warning for using too much data.
So yes, especially when you consider it is the cheapest option of all the phones you just mentioned, and also the fastest/most powerful, the iPhone 5 is definitely "worth it".
You make me laugh. It is a smartphone and it is $299.00. Like I said before the flagship android phones start out at $299 like the galaxy nexus. Now they are a year old so they go down. You can put the Note II in what ever field you want I don't care.
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Oh boy here we go. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. "The iPhone 5 is faster and more powerful" have you completely lost your mind. You are now out your league. Go to YouTube please and watch the videos for the iphone 5 and nexus 4 and then come back and tell me that the iphone 5 is faster and more powerful. These 2 phones are neck and neck. You really have no idea what you are talking about. You take whatever Tim Cook says as truth. Do some research please before you ever quote me again and come with completely false statements.
Ok. Neither do I. Me personally, I'd expect to pay more for a device such as the Note and Note II. And my opinion doesn't matter.
Moving on.....
What's that other guy on here, Bronoski? Something like that. Either these two are the same person or they're related.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review/2
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review/3
Benchmark after benchmark shows the iPhone 5 performs better and has better battery life (way way way better battery life) than the Nexus 4. I know you're just going to dismiss by claiming you saw some video where Angry Birds ran .2 milliseconds faster on the Nexus 4, but Anandtech.com is the top benchmarking site in the world and according to them it's not even close. The Nexus 4 is a good phone, but the iPhone 5 smacks the poop out of it in every category (I know...I know, you saw a youtube video). Hell, the difference in battery life alone makes the iPhone 5 a no brainer over the Nexus 4. Please do some research before you start spouting stupid s***.
So you just gave me benchmarks on battery life and that is how you are going to tell me the iphone 5 blows the nexus 4 out of the water are you joking me? Battery that is all you have?
Also who the crap cares about benchmarks? I care about real world use. Which is why I point at videos not benchmarks.
OMG...did you even fricking look at those links. They did about 20 benchmarks and iPhone 5 came out on top of the Nexus 4 on almost every single one of them (actually it may have been every single one of them). It wasn't just battery life you moron...it was everything...they tested everything and the iPhone 5 was far superior to the Nexus 4.
Look at my modified post. No one cares about benchmarks unless you are a tech geek. I care about real world use. Try those am then come back.
If you want to use use benchmark then how about take into account that the iphone 5 is using a dumb down OS that is from 2007.
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You don't think having 3-5 hours more battery life is a real world Issue? You don't think LTE verse 3g is a legit issue? You don't think the fact that the iPhone uses a more stable OS than the Nexus 4 is a real world issue (http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...jor-issues-plaguing-googles-newest-release/)? You're right, if you ignore all of those things and ignore the fact that the 5 is faster (per benchmarks) than the N4, then I'm sure the N4 is a better phone.
You hate the company, and yet you admit you are buying their products.
That seems to speak for itself. Whatever they're doing, they must be doing it right if you continue to fork over your credit card. So yes, it's worth it.
Yeah, definitely trolling. The only arrogance here is that the OP insists that he and ONLY he can be right, while everyone who disagrees with him is wrong and engaging in ad hominem attacks. Not to mention how much the actions of people who have no effect whatsoever in his life chaps his hide SO MUCH.
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You are correct. I have been having fun with this, but I'm finally getting exhausted with this guy. He's just here to piss people off. This is my last entry to this thread.
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I pretty sure that goes both ways. None of you want to agree either. Everything I say is wrong and you have an answer for it. I was not even the one that brought up the nexus 4 am I?
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So don't watch the key notes and you will never see any of this because this is actually not how Apple advertises? Did I just solve your issue with some common sense?
I mean your are the first person to not seem completely blow away that I would say anything bad about Apple. I guess I should stop watching the keynotes. I like tech a lot so I keep up with this stuff. I guess I should know where not to post and that is not here. I like to suggest different opinions.
But the carriers in those cases charge their customers, making people mad at the carriers for being expensive.
Of course? I can't see which features that could defend the much higher price. I'm pretty sure most iPhone users don't know about/know how to use half of the features of the iPhone. The average iPhone user don't know the difference in features between an iPhone and an Android phone. I believe the average iPhone user has bought their phone based on that they've heard iPhones are the best and the higher price would also suggest that.
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I might use some words in the wrong context since I'm not English speaking (Swedish), but I believe that the fact they are often "showing off" their huge margins when saying how great they are and how well they are doing is a way of making people buy their phones or be extra proud of owning one.
I just meant that In my mind I think it's strange that to have massive margins on your phones compared to the competition is a good thing for the buyer. To me it's telling me I pay more for an equal product just because it has an Apple on it. Maybe that's just me, but that's my take on it.
No, they can probably not charge more, because they don't have the same "cult status" or exclusive ring about them. Yes, it seems that Apple is somehow immune to the free market in terms of that they seem to be able to charge much more for an equal product than anyone else and people still buy them like crazy. No, they shouldn't be despised for being successfull. I actually think it's pretty impressive. I just believe that sometime down the road people will wake up and realize that they are paying an overprice for their products. At least if Apple keeps on showboating their huge margins on their products. But once again, that's my opinion and it's very possible that I'm wrong about it.
My company bought it for me. I would never pay $920 of my own for it. But I was interested in learning more about the iPhones, iOS and the Apple eco system. At work I help most of our employees with their cell phone problems, helping them setting up syncing etc. Being a long time Android user I know that system, but was a complete novice when people with iPhones came to get help.
I had also my own share of misconceptions about iOS, iTunes etc. and also wanted to find out what's true and what's not.
Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone and I have bought an iPad (which I don't find overpriced compared to the Android pads) myself. I like the eco system. But even though I like the products, I still think the iPhones are overpriced.
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If that had been the case in my market, I probably had agreed with you. But here it's not, it's about $200 more than the Android flagships. That's why I believe it's overpriced, here.
Before Apple there was RIM
Before RIM there was Nokia (at least in all the world but US)
A company is as successful as much as they can please their customers.
I was a blackberry user, then an aunt gave me an iPod touch. The iPod touch gave my mom the idea of getting an iPhone. After her iPhone 3GS came another iPhone 4, then we got MBPs, Macs, more iPhones and iPads.
So no, it was not a keynote that gave us the idea. It was the great product which did.
Perhaps next year Android will get a feature or a completely new device that simplify my life will appear, making Apple old news.
Who knows?? All I know right now, is that Apple is give us an ecosystem that meet our demands and that have the best customer services of the entire industry.
I don't care if Samsung Galaxy S4 is implanted directly to the eye. If their customer support system sucks as much as it does now, there is no way in earth I'm switching.
5 years ago I had a Toshiba PC, it had an issue and I sent it to service. Customer service in Mexico told me that since the computer was bought in US, it was impossible to make the warranty valid in any other place in the world, and that I had to pay them 10 dollars for the check up they did.
Last year my MBP had a hard disk failure. I took it to a service center in Prague and without asking a question they fixed it without me having to pay a cent.
Ask me when will I buy another Toshiba laptop???
Before RIM there was Nokia (at least in all the world but US)
A company is as successful as much as they can please their customers.
I was a blackberry user, then an aunt gave me an iPod touch. The iPod touch gave my mom the idea of getting an iPhone. After her iPhone 3GS came another iPhone 4, then we got MBPs, Macs, more iPhones and iPads.
So no, it was not a keynote that gave us the idea. It was the great product which did.
Perhaps next year Android will get a feature or a completely new device that simplify my life will appear, making Apple old news.
Who knows?? All I know right now, is that Apple is give us an ecosystem that meet our demands and that have the best customer services of the entire industry.
I don't care if Samsung Galaxy S4 is implanted directly to the eye. If their customer support system sucks as much as it does now, there is no way in earth I'm switching.
5 years ago I had a Toshiba PC, it had an issue and I sent it to service. Customer service in Mexico told me that since the computer was bought in US, it was impossible to make the warranty valid in any other place in the world, and that I had to pay them 10 dollars for the check up they did.
Last year my MBP had a hard disk failure. I took it to a service center in Prague and without asking a question they fixed it without me having to pay a cent.
Ask me when will I buy another Toshiba laptop???
Couldn't believe my ears listening to 1-16-13 MacBreak Weekly...
At some of the things I was listening to the guests talk about...
Leo's using a Galaxy Note 2 and loving it, and is grumbling that Apple should release a similar device.
Andy is trying to move some of his note taking functionality onto 3rd party apps like Dropbox, and is concerned about the walled garden approach to keeping data trapped within it, and MacOS/iOS's lack of flexibility.
Adam Engst mentioning that iOS is the oldest mobile mainstream mobile os around. Other commentators stating that Android has 'lapped' it, that Apple has been short on innovation lately, etc. Brief discussion if there was consumer backlash at the conversion to the lightning connector and Apple's adapter pricing. Couldn't believe my ears at some of the comments made by these long term Mac commentators and enthusiasts.
Was this three guys in a pissy mood that week, or is some of the gild coming off of Apple's lily?
At some of the things I was listening to the guests talk about...
Leo's using a Galaxy Note 2 and loving it, and is grumbling that Apple should release a similar device.
Andy is trying to move some of his note taking functionality onto 3rd party apps like Dropbox, and is concerned about the walled garden approach to keeping data trapped within it, and MacOS/iOS's lack of flexibility.
Adam Engst mentioning that iOS is the oldest mobile mainstream mobile os around. Other commentators stating that Android has 'lapped' it, that Apple has been short on innovation lately, etc. Brief discussion if there was consumer backlash at the conversion to the lightning connector and Apple's adapter pricing. Couldn't believe my ears at some of the comments made by these long term Mac commentators and enthusiasts.
Was this three guys in a pissy mood that week, or is some of the gild coming off of Apple's lily?
I will agree with you on almost everything you said. I was blown away by Apple products like the iphone and ipad, but now I don't think Apple is blowing away the others. I think android is very close and in a some ways better. Hey again it is really just all about what you like better and I wanted people to say why they liked things not why I was wrong for not lovig everything about Apple.
The one thing I would disagree with you on is there customer support. Now yes they are better than a lot of companies but they still need a lot of work. So you get a 1 year warranty when you buy an iphone, but that only means you can call apple care twice. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I don't live near an Apple store at all, so if I have something that goes wrong I want to ask about it first before I have to make a day trip a an apple store. So yea they might do a lot for you if you can get to an Apple store, but you can just pick up the phone.
You sound like you're from a non-English speaking country in Europe, forgive me if I'm wrong. I know that Apple bashing is a widespread hobby in the European lands of Linux coders and software-freedom fighters. I'm fairly sure that every Android user has their own distinct philosophy on iPhone users, this has regularly been confirmed to me. They'll assume you're a technophobe, they'll assume you're trying to compensate for something by choosing an Apple handset, they'll assume you're a fashion victim, a brain-dead consumerist freak, and about half a dozen other, and equally negative things. I've been wondering for a while now why the myth of the Apple fanatic is holding up so well in Europe, seeing as Android users have most definitely overtaken Apple fanboys in rabid bashing and blanket assumption making a long time ago, presumably somewhere around Gingerbread.
I clearly remember a debate I had with someone like that on some news forum, I actually succeeded into shaming him for his Android handset because it's not StallmanApprovedFreedom, telling him he needs to get Replicant ASAP, and he actually agreed. Clearly, the wind blows from a different direction over here.
I clearly remember a debate I had with someone like that on some news forum, I actually succeeded into shaming him for his Android handset because it's not StallmanApprovedFreedom, telling him he needs to get Replicant ASAP, and he actually agreed. Clearly, the wind blows from a different direction over here.
You mean the elitist hypocrites who think they are superior for not having an apple device, i think i know who you are talking about. They seem like they are a bunch of 12 year olds.You sound like you're from a non-English speaking country in Europe, forgive me if I'm wrong. I know that Apple bashing is a widespread hobby in the European lands of Linux coders and software-freedom fighters. I'm fairly sure that every Android user has their own distinct philosophy on iPhone users, this has regularly been confirmed to me. They'll assume you're a technophobe, they'll assume you're trying to compensate for something by choosing an Apple handset, they'll assume you're a fashion victim, a brain-dead consumerist freak, and about half a dozen other, and equally negative things. I've been wondering for a while now why the myth of the Apple fanatic is holding up so well in Europe, seeing as Android users have most definitely overtaken Apple fanboys in rabid bashing and blanket assumption making a long time ago, presumably somewhere around Gingerbread.
I clearly remember a debate I had with someone like that on some news forum, I actually succeeded into shaming him for his Android handset because it's not StallmanApprovedFreedom, telling him he needs to get Replicant ASAP, and he actually agreed. Clearly, the wind blows from a different direction over here.
You sound like you're from a non-English speaking country in Europe, forgive me if I'm wrong. I know that Apple bashing is a widespread hobby in the European lands of Linux coders and software-freedom fighters. I'm fairly sure that every Android user has their own distinct philosophy on iPhone users, this has regularly been confirmed to me. They'll assume you're a technophobe, they'll assume you're trying to compensate for something by choosing an Apple handset, they'll assume you're a fashion victim, a brain-dead consumerist freak, and about half a dozen other, and equally negative things. I've been wondering for a while now why the myth of the Apple fanatic is holding up so well in Europe, seeing as Android users have most definitely overtaken Apple fanboys in rabid bashing and blanket assumption making a long time ago, presumably somewhere around Gingerbread.
I clearly remember a debate I had with someone like that on some news forum, I actually succeeded into shaming him for his Android handset because it's not StallmanApprovedFreedom, telling him he needs to get Replicant ASAP, and he actually agreed. Clearly, the wind blows from a different direction over here.
So please shame me! Tell me how android has not caught up with Apple please. No one here has a a leg to stand on. I just want Apple user to admit that IOS is old and needs a refresh to keep up with android. Go
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