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Samsung and Apple Continue to Dominate Smartphone Market, But iOS Market Share Falls

Michael Scrip

Michael Scrip

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gagaliya said:
Market share is EVERYTHING to a smartphone/mobile ecosystem. Every single app maker that makes up your os is looking at this report and using it to figure out where to release their next app first.
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That's weird... Android has 70% smartphone market share to Apple's 20%

So why do developers prefer making apps for the iPhone?

That's the complete opposite of your claim.

Android has 70% market share... but a lot of that is made up of crappy $100 phones in lesser-developed countries. You can't even access the Google Play store in China!

Developers go where the money is... and that's still iOS despite their lower market share.
 
nia820

nia820

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kjs862 said:
I don't get these type of conversations. It's like talking about how much market share Ferrari has -- it doesn't make sense.

Apple is like Ferrari.
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Uh.no it is not. Ferrari cars are made for the wealthy. Apple phones are affordable to working middle class. An iphone is affordable. The price isn't an excuse for ios losing market share. Nice try though.
 
JackieTreehorn

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Lots of Samsung-paid ppl here busy +1-ing positive posts about Samsung.


They have yet to make their own OS and their own device, not ugly devices and OS copied from Apple.
 
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samcraig

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JackieTreehorn said:
Lots of Samsung-paid ppl here busy +1-ing positive posts about Samsung.


They have yet to make their own OS and their own device, not ugly devices and OS copied from Apple.
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How much tin foil did you use to create your hat? I'm going to make a few and didn't know how much I needed to buy...
 
G51989

G51989

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kjs862 said:
Apple is like Ferrari.
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Because Ferraris are mass produced by Chinese hard labor and stamped out every 5 seconds, and are totally available at your local wal mart.

Bad comparison , cars and phones don't work, your average iPhone goes between 400-800 dollars, almost anyone can afford that, a Ferrari goes for between 180,000-450,000. Most people could never afford one.
 
dejo

dejo

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AppleScruff1 said:
Is it ok if I say many here, or some here or should I quote those who have made the statements? I do not want to violate TOS.
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I think if you say "many here" or "some here", that would be an acceptable debate approach, but quoting those posts you disagree with and rebutting their content is, of course, better. That way you can avoid the "negative-stereotyping and obvious generalizations" clause of the Rules for Appropriate Debate.

Please note: my remarks in this thread are made solely as a member of this site and not as a representative of the moderation team. When I speak on behalf of them, I normally use my "Mod Note:" voice. :)
 
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the read

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AppleScruff1 said:
But this is MacRumors and numbers are only important if they favor Apple. In this case, people will say, who cares if market share is falling, Apple makes better profits. :D
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This is one point I've never understood about Apple followers. They care more about supporting the Apple brand than recieving a better quality product. Brainwashed.
 
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apple-win

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Oletros said:
Subsidized is the word to look. You can pat upfront only $199 but the operator has paid full to Apple or Samsung.
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Phone company transfers the profit made from the customers with no subsidized phone to subsidize those customers bought subsidized phone.

Either receive subsidization or subsidize others, very socialist.
 
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adamtore

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JackieTreehorn said:
Lots of Samsung-paid ppl here busy +1-ing positive posts about Samsung.


They have yet to make their own OS and their own device, not ugly devices and OS copied from Apple.
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..or people got tiered of "you dont need that, or hold it like this"-methods so they jumped ship, hence so many +1.

Sounds more legit. Nice try tho!
 
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Bahroo

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gagaliya said:
again false.

apple has cheaper phones at every price level starting at free just like android. All running the same ios.

Android and samsung is innovating at full speed and killing apple in those commercials. The only big thing came out of the iphone was a slighter bigger screen last year, their other big feature the map was a disaster and had a negative impact.

Just look at those commercials, when iphone first came it was a showstopper, now the best they can do is touting a "do not disturb" button and how the caller can hear your voice...during a phone call.

It's laughable.

Meanwhile samsung is killing it with their commercials touting nfs transfers, stylus doing all sorts of cool stuff, etc...

Apple stopped innovating on their iphone, or rather tried and failed. That's fact.

Many people including myself like iphone because it's simple and works out of box, but that will only carry you so far until a tipping point is reached where the features and innovations on the competitor is just too much to resist.
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Its a huge difference, a iPhone requires a data plan basically wherever you buy it unless you buy the phone full price, which is expensive. The cheaper Android phones are dirt cheap and dont require expensive plans

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Michael Scrip said:
That's weird... Android has 70% smartphone market share to Apple's 20%

So why do developers prefer making apps for the iPhone?

That's the complete opposite of your claim.

Android has 70% market share... but a lot of that is made up of crappy $100 phones in lesser-developed countries. You can't even access the Google Play store in China!

Developers go where the money is... and that's still iOS despite their lower market share.
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One of the reasons why developers still prefer iOS is the fact that 70% of all iOS devices ever sold is now on iOS 6, the latest software, that makes developers jobs so much easier and they can now reach out to even more people

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the read said:
This is one point I've never understood about Apple followers. They care more about supporting the Apple brand than recieving a better quality product. Brainwashed.
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What do you mean by receiving a better quality product? Are you implying that Apple products arent of high quality?
 
brdeveloper

brdeveloper

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Apple must doing better where it isn't supported by carriers. Unlocked, off-contract phones is the #1 choice outside US.

Also, exclusivity agreements are not a good approach anymore. iPhone is a good product, but we have good if not better alternatives, so I won't enter in a contract just because a carrier has exclusivity on selling it.

In Brazil, for example, a SIII costs around USD 900,00. A Galaxy Note II costs around USD 1000,00. An iPhone 5 costs around USD 1200,00 and it's sold only by carriers.
 
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PadreQuevedo

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I have said this before. 2013 is a crucial year for Apple and iPhone.

If we don't see a bigger iPhone this year, don't be surprise to read some reports saying something like 80%/15% marketshare for Samsung and Apple respectively.

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JackieTreehorn said:
Lots of Samsung-paid ppl here busy +1-ing positive posts about Samsung.


They have yet to make their own OS and their own device, not ugly devices and OS copied from Apple.
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What? iPhone has many Samsung components. Maybe it's time for Apple to really start making their own stuff.
 
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Elit3

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FSMBP said:
This sounds bad but I hope their market-share drops lower...It will force and motivate Apple to innovate more and release better features (like they did with Mac OS X).
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YES! FINALLY, an Apple fan that realises to rise you first have to fall, if you are making the same every year (two examples are cod and Apple).
 
Wicked1

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FSMBP said:
This sounds bad but I hope their market-share drops lower...It will force and motivate Apple to innovate more and release better features (like they did with Mac OS X).
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My thoughts exactly, the old Steve Jobs train of thought will no longer work, if they do not start having multiple phones, and really bring some innovative ideas out soon, they will continue to slide. Do not get me wrong I am an Apple supporter, love their Macs etc, but my IP5 is pretty boring and to be honest 4.0 just will not cut it for viewing web pages etc, I think they need to come out with like 2-3 different phones so they can compete. Samsung is moving because they have two flagship products, the SIII and Note II, and both different however give people something new and fresh.

I hope Apple can do something spectacular this year with iOS, but I am not hoping for much out of the 5S bc it will not be that big of a product since it will just be improvements to the 5

I may leave the iPhone if they do not and go to Samsung and get the Note II, I love this phone and have one in my house, it is a fantastic device, granted a little big but none the less a great phone.
 
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