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Saturn1217

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I am recently in the very fortunate position of having $1100 that I need to spend in the next two months on an "education related expense" which basically means laptop for me and since I already have a 2012 MBA I love I thought it would be great to upgrade to the 2013 MBA which I expect to be exactly like my old computer except with wonderfully amazing battery-life.

However checking around Apple's support forums and a few reviews (mainly Gizmodo) I'm a little concerned about the Wifi performance. I know that Apple is using a new faster wifi standard (which I could care less about because the chances of me encountering a router using this new standard are next to zero). What I do care about is compatibility with older routers. My home router is fairly new (bought a little over a year ago brand new) so it should be fine. But I also want my MBA to work at coffee shops and at work where I can't rely on others to have upgraded their routers or change router settings. So my question for current 2013 MBA owners is this: How is the Wifi performance. Any issues, especially with using the MBA on wifi away from home. Should I be concerned?

Thanks in advance!
 

Jefe's MacAir

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I've set up 2 2013 MBAs and both have connected quickly to my wifi. I am running a TimeCapsule though.:p
 

techn0lady

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With my new Airport Express AC and MBA '13 I'm showing a transmit rate of 867 - almost 3x the old rate
 

techn0lady

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2013 MBA 13" 8/512 - no issues whatsoever w/WiFi here.

BTW I'm getting 870 Mps rate using the new airport extreme and ac protocol
 

defomicron

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I don't understand why you'd worry about their being issues when none have been reported. The 2013 model supports all the same networking standards as your 2012, plus one newer. Backwards compatibility remains.
 

mattferg

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I am recently in the very fortunate position of having $1100 that I need to spend in the next two months on an "education related expense" which basically means laptop for me and since I already have a 2012 MBA I love I thought it would be great to upgrade to the 2013 MBA which I expect to be exactly like my old computer except with wonderfully amazing battery-life.

However checking around Apple's support forums and a few reviews (mainly Gizmodo) I'm a little concerned about the Wifi performance. I know that Apple is using a new faster wifi standard (which I could care less about because the chances of me encountering a router using this new standard are next to zero). What I do care about is compatibility with older routers. My home router is fairly new (bought a little over a year ago brand new) so it should be fine. But I also want my MBA to work at coffee shops and at work where I can't rely on others to have upgraded their routers or change router settings. So my question for current 2013 MBA owners is this: How is the Wifi performance. Any issues, especially with using the MBA on wifi away from home. Should I be concerned?

Thanks in advance!

Wifi performance is great, blows my Nexus 7 out of the water. About the same as my Windows Phone and desktop.

Though, as a side note, I'd recommend you spend the money on something else education-related, as I wouldn't really consider the new model to be worth that to upgrade.
 

Jefe's MacAir

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I don't understand why you'd worry about their being issues when none have been reported. The 2013 model supports all the same networking standards as your 2012, plus one newer. Backwards compatibility remains.

I've had A LOT of issue w/ routers and Apple products. Specifically Century Link formally Qwest. Their supplied routers wouldn't play well with the newer products. I.E. iPad, 2010, 2011 MacAir, iPhones, etc.

I only use Airports when I get to decide what router to buy. WAY faster in my experience.
 

defomicron

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Jun 13, 2013
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I've had A LOT of issue w/ routers and Apple products. Specifically Century Link formally Qwest. Their supplied routers wouldn't play well with the newer products. I.E. iPad, 2010, 2011 MacAir, iPhones, etc.

I only use Airports when I get to decide what router to buy. WAY faster in my experience.

Strange. There's no reason why an Apple product should be less friendly with a router than any other.
 

BASTI51

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Can somebody test the real transferrates between the new air and ac-TimeCapsule/Airport Extreme?

Because these 867mbps are just theoretical numbers..will it be over ~25MB/s? Can somebody please make a simple filetransfer and measure the time?
 

Weaselboy

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Can somebody test the real transferrates between the new air and ac-TimeCapsule/Airport Extreme?

Because these 867mbps are just theoretical numbers..will it be over ~25MB/s? Can somebody please make a simple filetransfer and measure the time?

Okay... here you go. I have a 2013 13" MBA and the new AC Time Capsule. Below is signal strength from an option-click on the wifi menulet while in my office.

I tested with a 5GB DMG I have a bunch of old docs in. I just copied from Finder to another Finder window opened to a folder on the TC drive.
My TC is in a closet in the middle of the house. House is stick built with drywall interior walls and stucco outside walls.

Results measured using network tab of Activity Monitor.

1. While in my office about 15 feet from the TC and one wall away I get a rock solid sustained 20MB/s. It does not waver up or down at all.

2. I opened the closet door where the TC is and stood right in front of it. About three feet from the TC. 21.4MB/s sustained. I guess this one is your real life peak speed.

3. Walked out the back slider into the backyard, so now about 50 feet away and three walls between me and the TC. Steady 14MB/s.

4. Far edge of my backyard now about 100 feet from the TC. Steady 10MB/s.

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luisito

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No problems whatsoever.

Its hooked up to my wifi at home, the device its at least 1 year old.

Also hooked at my university's wifi.

No drop on the signal. And amazingly, I sleep it at home and when it wakes up at my university, the signal gets connected instantly so you would never notice it changed routers.
 

Saturn1217

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Thanks for the replies. As you see from front page article that is why I was asking. Because people (not myself) have complained about wifi problems specifically with the airs before so I got worried. But hopefully it isn't a big issue. Certainly doesn't seem so from this thread.
 

bbbobbb

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With my new Airport Express AC and MBA '13 I'm showing a transmit rate of 867 - almost 3x the old rate

Same for me. I have seen it drop to the 7xx's, either way I am not seeing the issues that others are describing. Might be because I too am using a new TC...:confused:
 

Dlanod

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I'm using a non ac router and mine is connecting just fine. And like another poster, I find it jumps wifi connections much better than my older Windows 8 Laptop
 

Gator Bob

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Aug 3, 2011
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There was a specific issue w/ the Century link/Qwest routers.

WOW! That is good to know. I totally failed and finally gave up trying to get my Airport Extreme to link up as an extender with my Qwest Q1000 DSL router. (It's actually a rebranded Actiontec Q1000.) Instead, I bought and successfully use an Amped SR10000.

Exactly what is the "specific issue" between the Airport Exrtreme and the Qwest Q1000?
 

scaredpoet

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I don't have 802.11ac yet, but my 13 inch MBA 2013 is connecting fine at home on a Motorola SBG6580 Gateway on 2.4GHz (stuck there because the gf has an iPhone 4S), and at work on multiple Cisco Aironet routers on both 2.4GHz and 5GHz. No issues, connection is stable even after hours of use.

Though admittedly, since yesterday I've also been connecting when I'm at my desk at work through ethernet, using a Thunderbolt Express Dock. Even 802.11ac can't beat gigabit ethernet!
 

Jefe's MacAir

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WOW! That is good to know. I totally failed and finally gave up trying to get my Airport Extreme to link up as an extender with my Qwest Q1000 DSL router. (It's actually a rebranded Actiontec Q1000.) Instead, I bought and successfully use an Amped SR10000.

Exactly what is the "specific issue" between the Airport Exrtreme and the Qwest Q1000?

Can't recall exactly. Dropped Century Link and moved to Comcast. No router issues, much faster internet, cheaper.
 

Gator Bob

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Aug 3, 2011
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Can't recall exactly. Dropped Century Link and moved to Comcast. No router issues, much faster internet, cheaper.

Many thanks. I'll check whatever high speed service Comcast can offer me.

I am in Santa Fe NM. With the Amped_SR 10000 expanding the signal from my Qwest Q1000 DSL router (aka Actiontec Q1000) to my 2012 Retina MacBook Pro, my phone with internet bundle from Qwest provides reliable service but only 10 Mbps downloads. (I have DirecTV and Verizon cell.)
 

Appledreamer

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Jun 16, 2011
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I am recently in the very fortunate position of having $1100 that I need to spend in the next two months on an "education related expense" which basically means laptop for me and since I already have a 2012 MBA I love I thought it would be great to upgrade to the 2013 MBA which I expect to be exactly like my old computer except with wonderfully amazing battery-life.

However checking around Apple's support forums and a few reviews (mainly Gizmodo) I'm a little concerned about the Wifi performance. I know that Apple is using a new faster wifi standard (which I could care less about because the chances of me encountering a router using this new standard are next to zero). What I do care about is compatibility with older routers. My home router is fairly new (bought a little over a year ago brand new) so it should be fine. But I also want my MBA to work at coffee shops and at work where I can't rely on others to have upgraded their routers or change router settings. So my question for current 2013 MBA owners is this: How is the Wifi performance. Any issues, especially with using the MBA on wifi away from home. Should I be concerned?

Thanks in advance!

totally fine running wifi non stop has not discounted once, on MIFI
 
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