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2TB Seagate M9T 9.5mm thick drives
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We have a release date of 31/3/14 here in the UK for the bare drive.
And it's £50 more expensive than the same drive in the enclosure!!
Enclosure £100.
Bare drive £150!
And it's £50 more expensive than the same drive in the enclosure!!
Enclosure £100.
Bare drive £150!
it's annoying isn't it. I want to get the enclosure now not only because i'll get it sooner but also it will cost less. I just need to make sure the STDR2000203 definitely has the Samsung M9T 2TB in it with a SATA connector first, so i'm waiting for more feedback on this thread.
Anyone tried this in an MBP 13 optibay?
I have now bought five of these enclosures from Argos and opened up three of them. They all have standard SATA interfaces!! More info HERE
Perfect thanks mike, that thread refers specifically to the STDR2000201 that I was looking at. I've cancelled my pre-order for the drive on it's own and ordered the external to take the drive out !
Jonny
I can confirm the STDR2000203 (Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB Red) also has a Samsung M9T (ST2000LM003) inside with a standard SATA connector:
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx338/magicMac/Small%202TB%20HDD/IMG_3856.jpg
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx338/magicMac/Small%202TB%20HDD/IMG_3857.jpg
The cover comes off easily with a guitar pic. The cover is a bit bendy but straitens out when you clip it back on.
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx338/magicMac/Small%202TB%20HDD/IMG_3856.jpg
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx338/magicMac/Small%202TB%20HDD/IMG_3857.jpg
The cover comes off easily with a guitar pic. The cover is a bit bendy but straitens out when you clip it back on.
I would be absolutely amazed if there were different HDDs in the red, silver and black.
However I would not be surprised if the bare drive, when it is released, has a different ID or part number. They may have incorporated some updates/improvements. The longer the time gap between the enclosure version and the bare drive, the more likely this is to be the case. Incidentally the firmware version of mine is 2BC10001. I would not be surprised if the firmware on the bare drives is different.
I am not concerned about this. The fact is that the HDDs in these enclosures are 9.5mm 2Tb and are working fine, which is all I need.
EDIT I have drastically edited the above post. Originally I suggested another reason for a different part number might be to do with 3G vs 6G interface, since USB enclosures cannot operate at 6G link speed. I removed all that after finding (using Drive DX) that the the HDD in the enclosures is a 6G device (but operates at 3G while in a USB enclosure of course). If connected by Thunderbolt or as an internal drive it connects as a 6G device.
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I just popped a 2TB ST2000LM003 (Samsung M9T) from Seagate Backup Plus Portable Slim in my Mid-2012 15" MBP and I'm having issues with it. The drive appears initially, but then disconnects itself with an error "the disk was not safely ejected" once I try to access files on the disk!!
I thought mid-2012 didn't have these issues with 6G data....
Anyone else had better luck?
I thought mid-2012 didn't have these issues with 6G data....
Anyone else had better luck?
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I just popped a 2TB ST2000LM003 from Seagate Backup Plus Portable Slim in my Mid-2012 15" MBP and I'm having issues with it. The drive appears initially, but then disconnects itself with an error "the disk was not safely ejected" once I try to access files on the disk!!
I thought mid-2012 didn't have these issues with 6G data....
Anyone else had better luck?
I assume you put it in optical bay? Not sure 2012 machines are completely immune, but in any case there is no harm resetting the the M9T to be 3G with HGST Tools. A 5400 spinning HDD will not reach the 3G limit.
Yep, in the OptiBay.
Unfortunately I tried the HGST tools, but this drive was not supported. Big ole pile of confusion as to what tools support what drives, especially with the whole confusion as to samsung owning seagate, who work with Hitachi, who is now owned by WD...
BUT!
After spending all freaking day searching, I finally solved the problem
-- with a caveat.Seagate drives have 4 header pins that enable different features -- see this article.
What this means is that by using a header you can FORCE the drive to operate in SATA I (150MB/s limit) which is totally fine, as this drive benchmarks for me at under 100MB/s. SATA II might be able to be enabled using other drive tools for samsung (SSPEED.ISO??) but the SeaTools and HGST Tools are not supported from my testing.
What I did was to use a pair of pliers to bend and cut a paperclip into a O shape which I placed over the required header pins as mentioned in the article. I then put a blob of blu-tak to hold my DIY pin in place in case vibration moves it over time. Drive now appears and seems to work perfectly
The caveat is that SATA I does not support NCQ, but this would be more of a problem if this was being used as boot drive, rather than a media drive.
Let me know if this works for you too!
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Drive dropped out after copying 1.5GB of data. Words fail me at this point. Don't buy this drive -- I'd recommend to do what I'm doing and grab the 1.5TB 5K1500 from Hitachi, which can be forced in software to use Sata II (3Gb/s) using this software or ... keep waiting.
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Yep, in the OptiBay.
Unfortunately I tried the HGST tools, but this drive was not supported. Big ole pile of confusion as to what tools support what drives, especially with the whole confusion as to samsung owning seagate, who work with Hitachi, who is now owned by WD...
BUT!
After spending all freaking day searching, I finally solved the problem
Seagate drives have 4 header pins that enable different features -- see this article.
What this means is that by using a header you can FORCE the drive to operate in SATA I (150MB/s limit) which is totally fine, as this drive benchmarks for me at under 100MB/s. SATA II might be able to be enabled using other drive tools for samsung (SSPEED.ISO??) but the SeaTools and HGST Tools are not supported from my testing.
What I did was to use a pair of pliers to bend and cut a paperclip into a O shape which I placed over the required header pins as mentioned in the article. I then put a blob of blu-tak to hold my DIY pin in place in case vibration moves it over time. Drive now appears and seems to work perfectly
The caveat is that SATA I does not support NCQ, but this would be more of a problem if this was being used as boot drive, rather than a media drive.
Let me know if this works for you too!
Sorry, I had a brain malfunction suggesting HGST tools for the Seagate M9T, even though the companies are all intermarried now (I have lost that particular plot).
Interesting about your solution, Thanks for that. I might need it some time. At the moment I have the HGST 1Tb 7200, and HGST 1.5Tb 5400 reset to 3G, in my optical bays.
See post above. I've now ordered the HGST 1.5TB for now, and one of the 480GB SSD's to compensate too... win for speed, lose for money. Thanks for your help Mike.
The drive name does not carry the "Slim" suffix everywhere, which is understandable since the mechanism is "slim" but the case is not.
This is expected, since the one doing the USB crap is WD.
Samsung does not own Seagate. Seagate bought Samsung's hard drive division.
In order for the Chinese regulator to accept the sale of HGST to WD, some HGST 3.5" product lines went to Toshiba (these carry now Toshiba names), with Toshiba transferring a 2.5" plant to WD. So that 3 independent 3.5" hard drive manufacturers remain, not only 2.5"
This is expected, since the one doing the USB crap is WD.
Samsung does not own Seagate. Seagate bought Samsung's hard drive division.
In order for the Chinese regulator to accept the sale of HGST to WD, some HGST 3.5" product lines went to Toshiba (these carry now Toshiba names), with Toshiba transferring a 2.5" plant to WD. So that 3 independent 3.5" hard drive manufacturers remain, not only 2.5"
This bare drive went on sale in the UK 2 days ago.
And went straight to 1 to 4 months backorder!!
So the enclosure is the ONLY way to get this drive for a while at least!
And went straight to 1 to 4 months backorder!!
So the enclosure is the ONLY way to get this drive for a while at least!
Is there anyone else except paul who has had perfect success with this drive (samsung/seagate M9T) in a mac? Please report back which model if so, and anything you had to do to get it working. Thanks!
Please report back which model if so, and anything you had to do to get it working. Thanks!
I have a 2010 13" MBP with SATA II. Do you think this drive would be compatible despite the older SATA interface? I would put it in the original HDD bay (I have an SSD in the Optibay).
Is there anyone else except paul who has had perfect success with this drive (samsung/seagate M9T) in a mac?
I have one arriving in the next few days.
I will be putting it into a late 2011 13 inch MBP.
It works with a 2011 MBP
It works with a 2011 MBP in the optical drive bay (and an SSD in the hard disk bay). The SATA link speed is 3Gb in the optical drive bay.
However the drive is noisier than the original 750GB Toshiba drive. Noise perception is subjective, for me it was not worth it. i have replaced it with a 1.5TB HGST drive which to me has an acceptable noise level.
I'll use the 2TB Seagate as a Time Machine drive.
It works with a 2011 MBP in the optical drive bay (and an SSD in the hard disk bay). The SATA link speed is 3Gb in the optical drive bay.
However the drive is noisier than the original 750GB Toshiba drive. Noise perception is subjective, for me it was not worth it. i have replaced it with a 1.5TB HGST drive which to me has an acceptable noise level.
I'll use the 2TB Seagate as a Time Machine drive.
Well, there seems to exist actually a USB version of the Samsung drive too, so caveat:
http://www.seagate.com/files/www-co...ducts/spinpoint-m-series/en-us/100736111a.pdf
http://www.seagate.com/files/www-co...ducts/spinpoint-m-series/en-us/100736111a.pdf