Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:13 AM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Apple's Multi-User Face Recognition Plans for iPad Revealed in Patent




Back when the iPad was still just a rumor, the Wall Street Journal reported that one of the features that Apple had been working on with their upcoming tablet was the ability to recognize users by face.
Quote:
One person familiar with the matter said Apple has put significant resources into designing and programming the device so that it is intuitive to share. This person said Apple has experimented with the ability to leave virtual sticky notes on the device and for the gadget to automatically recognize individuals via a built-in camera. It is unclear whether these features will be included at launch.
The effort was part of Apple's efforts to make their new tablet a multi-user device. Facial recognition, however, never made it into the iPad, but a newly published patent application gives us insight into this feature that didn't make it into the shipping product.




Screenshot via PatentlyApple
AppleInsider notes that the new patent application offers a way for multiple users to share a device:
Quote:
The filing provides a simple way for multiple users to share a single device, like an iPad. Each user could customize their personal profile with unique wallpaper, applications and settings, and that profile would be immediately accessed once the iPad recognizes a user's face.
The face detection system reportedly could be a low-power system that is always active, allowing face detection to be the primary method to unlock your iOS device. Apple's patent was filed in June, 2010, soon after the first iPad was introduced.

Face recognition as a security measure, however, has some possible flaws. Google's Android recently introduced a Face Unlock feature as well, but reports have suggested it can be fooled by a photograph of the user.

Article Link: Apple's Multi-User Face Recognition Plans for iPad Revealed in Patent
MacRumors is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:17 AM   #2
AmbiguousNinja
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Certainly a useful feature. I could see me using it but I think it would be a bit more useful on computers with more than one user.
AmbiguousNinja is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:18 AM   #3
rkahl
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Hey Samsung, did you get that?
__________________
Too much!
rkahl is offline   -7 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:18 AM   #4
centauratlas
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Florida
A multi-user function on the iPad would be nice - you may want to let your kids use the iPad, but not (for example) get into your email.

Whether it is facial recognition or not, something would be nice to have.
centauratlas is offline   4 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:19 AM   #5
BornAgainMac
macrumors 601
 
BornAgainMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Florida Resident
I like having the ability to support multiple accounts on an iPad. I hope they still allow passwords since the camera security is easy to get around. Unless it isn't really intended as a security feature more than a convenience feature of switching profiles.
BornAgainMac is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:20 AM   #6
BJMRamage
macrumors 65816
 
BJMRamage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Crazy but Cool idea for sure.

Imagine letting your child pick it up and all the settings/apps changed for him/her.
you grab it and all your apps are on the front most screen.

downside to Apple is selling less devices per family. Upside...maybe a hesitant family would purchase one...then seeing it caught over, just buy multiple ones.

and Using multiple iPads could mean picking up any iPad and it works for you or a family member that is "subscribed" to the Family iTunes log in.
BJMRamage is offline   4 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:20 AM   #7
dokujaryu
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: California
Ugh.... please no face nonsense unless you can really, really, really do it well. I really don't like this idea. Didn't like it on Droid, don't like it on iPhone.
__________________
Laptop - 2011 MBP 2.3
Workstation - i5 OC 4.3Ghz Hackintosh w/ GTX 680
Phone - iPhone 5
Tablet - Nexus 7 2013
dokujaryu is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:20 AM   #8
Kilamite
macrumors G3
 
Kilamite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
I want user accounts on the iPad, and this may be part of that.

What would happen if you showed it a photo of someone else?
__________________
15" MacBook Pro 2GHz i7 8GB 750GB Hybrid | Mac mini 2.3GHz i7 16GB 1TB Fusion | OS X 10.9.4
iPhone 5 64GB | Apple TV 3 1080p | iOS 7.1.2
Home Theatre Hackintosh i3 3.5GHz 4GB 3TB | OS X 10.9.2
Kilamite is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:22 AM   #9
*LTD*
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by dokujaryu View Post
Ugh.... please no face nonsense unless you can really, really, really do it well. I really don't like this idea. Didn't like it on Droid, don't like it on iPhone.
More than an even chance Apple will get it right.
*LTD* is offline   -7 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:23 AM   #10
iVoid
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
They could easily add multi-user capabilities now... but I don't think they will.


They would rather you buy a iPad/iPhone for every member of the family.
iVoid is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:27 AM   #11
TitoC
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
I love it when any of these patent "discoveries" come out.

The best part is how they get Randall Munroe of XKCD to doodle all of their drawings. Priceless. /s

TitoC is offline   -4 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:27 AM   #12
dokujaryu
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: California
Maybe the movie AntiTrust will sue Apple in Uzbekistan and piss off everyone in Madagascar.

http://movieclips.com/Nqw69-antitrus...re-doing-milo/
__________________
Laptop - 2011 MBP 2.3
Workstation - i5 OC 4.3Ghz Hackintosh w/ GTX 680
Phone - iPhone 5
Tablet - Nexus 7 2013
dokujaryu is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:28 AM   #13
fredfnord
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Face recognition's flaws

Google's Android recently introduced a Face Unlock feature as well, but reports have suggested it can be fooled by a photograph of the user.

And this is why they need to license my new patent, Buttock Recognition™.

Unless you're a flasher, or one of those guys who likes photocopying his butt at Christmas parties, it's a lot safer. Although admittedly, it's largely security by obscurity...
fredfnord is offline   4 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:30 AM   #14
macduke
macrumors 68030
 
macduke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Columbia, MO
I actually may have thought of this before Apple. Why didn't I patent it!

Something like this would be perfect for families. My mom doesn't even use the email app (just uses Safari to login) because my little sister uses it and likes to snoop. When you press the sleep/wake, home button or open the smart cover it could activate the facial recognition. Put in your password and if it matches your face (auto substituting as username) then it configures the iPad once unlocked. Email accounts can be enabled/disabled on the fly, wallpapers switched, apps hidden, shown and reorganized according to user preference. iCloud accounts can be flipped around. But I'd expect something like this to be a bit memory intensive to achieve, so it's likely that only something like the iPad 3 or later with 1GB of ram would see this in the update. But Apple occasionally surprises. But this would be a welcome change. My wife and I share an iPad, but she feels like its not really "hers" because I have the wallpaper, iCloud, and apps organized how I want it. The bookmarks also sync from my Mac so she doesnt even have those. iCloud combined with this user account reconfiguring could be really useful. I think about it less as a security issue and more about convenience and enhanced usability.
__________________
MacBook Pro R-Type / Quad 2.6GHz Core i7 / 2880×1800 / 16GB / 512GB SSD
Canon 7D w/grip / 24-105L / 100-400L / Sony RX100
64GB iPad Mini Retina LTE / 64GB iPhone 5 / 8GB Original iPhone / Xbox One
macduke is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:31 AM   #15
Xtremehkr
macrumors 68000
 
Xtremehkr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
I wonder how Apple will perfect this technology, it sounded like an interesting idea when Alienware and some android phones started to incorporate it.

The problem is that, at least with the android phone, a picture of that person is as good as that person having their face there to unlock the phone.

Unless it's just a feature designed for convenience and not as much for security.

I'm waiting for an opportunity to see if Alienware has done anything to combat people gaining access via a picture of the computers owner.
__________________
i7 iMac, iPod Nano. iPod Touch. 3TB Time Machine. iPhone 4. 15" MacBook Pro i7 SSD. TV3.
Xtremehkr is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:32 AM   #16
candybaws
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
.

Last edited by candybaws; Oct 14, 2012 at 10:25 AM.
candybaws is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:35 AM   #17
MicroDailyRumor
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
This is interesting. pretty much taking siri a step further.
MicroDailyRumor is offline   -1 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:39 AM   #18
D.T.
macrumors 68020
 
D.T.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Vilano Beach, FL
Like a few posted above, the FR isn't the most important thing about this to me, it's the idea of multiple users/accounts.

Separate settings/data for things like calendar, email, (discreet iCloud configurations) some configuration like the restriction option for controlling apps usable by each account, etc.

I know the single user model potentially creates more sales of devices, but I know at least two families who would buy if they could share the device with discreet accounts/user data.
D.T. is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:40 AM   #19
Marcus-k
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by rkahl View Post
Hey Samsung, did you get that?
Android already has face recognition.
Marcus-k is offline   6 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:42 AM   #20
jamesarm97
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Even if they don't use face recognition, but a simple select user option like the new Facebook for iPad has would be a start. They need a way to change all account information / disable apps with certain users. I don't let anyone borrow my iPad because there are too many apps that you can't password protect that have important data. I would not think it would be hard with all the sandboxing and data separation that they can just point all the apps to a different data location behind the scenes based on the login information.
__________________
PPC Mini C2D Mini 20" iMac 17" i7 MBP 2G iPhone 3G iPhone iPhone 3G S⃣ 32g iPhone 4 32g iPhone 4S 64g, iPod Shuffles iPod Nano iPod Fat Nano iPod Nano 30g iPod 64g iPad 3G 64g iPad2
jamesarm97 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:47 AM   #21
Winni
macrumors 68030
 
Winni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Germany.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rkahl View Post
Hey Samsung, did you get that?
I apologize for raining on your parade, but somebody needs to tell you that Android 4 already has face recognition for authentication built in. It's just ANOTHER feature that Apple "borrows" from Android.
__________________
Coming soon: http://endnacht.de.
Winni is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:51 AM   #22
GLS
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winni View Post
I apologize for raining on your parade, but somebody needs to tell you that Android 4 already has face recognition for authentication built in. It's just ANOTHER feature that Apple "borrows" from Android.
Uh..does this infringe on the Apple patent?
__________________
11 MBA 4 GB 256 GB 13 rMBP 8GB 512 GB 15 rMBP 16GB 512 GB Mac Pro 12 Core w/2 Cinema Display iPhone 5s iPad Air 128 GB 3 Apple TV
GLS is offline   -3 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:51 AM   #23
MultiMediaWill
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Illinois
Thanks but I would like my battery to last longer than an hour and a half.
__________________
Click here for the iPhone 5 iOS 6.0 Jailbreak!
MacBook Pro 15" 2011 , 2.2 GHz Quad i7, 750GB HDD, 8GB RAM, Anti-Glare
iPhone 5 32gb
iPad 3 16gb
MultiMediaWill is offline   -2 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:51 AM   #24
MacDarcy
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Sometimes technology is cool and useful. Other times it's cool and impractical. I think this face recognition feature belongs in the latter category.

I'm sorry...it just seems so impractical. Just because something can be done, doesn't mean people will use it. I don't see many people using this feature at all.

But hey...i love technology and wouldn't want it to stop. Who knows what other useful things will come from such advances.
MacDarcy is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 29, 2011, 11:55 AM   #25
nedman
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A405 Safari/7534.48.3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rkahl
Hey Samsung, did you get that?
Already on the Samsung nexus as standard. Can see a patent feud blowing up! Not like apple!
nedman is offline   7 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Apple and Samsung Face Off in Court as Second Patent Infringement Trial Begins MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 49 Apr 5, 2014 02:59 PM
Apple's Plans to Enhance Touch ID with Trackpad Capabilities and Display Integration Revealed MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 109 Jan 27, 2014 01:52 PM
Apple Files Patent for 'Smart Dock' with Voice Recognition for Devices MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 32 Dec 6, 2013 11:35 PM
Apple Awarded Patent Detailing Facial Detection and Recognition System for Devices MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 64 Dec 4, 2013 03:59 PM
Apple Patent Applications Address User-to-User Resale and Lending of iTunes Store Content MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 70 Mar 11, 2013 10:20 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:15 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC