iBooks 2 - Library Wiped
Did anyone else have their entire Bookshelf wiped out after updating the iBook App?
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Live Coverage of Apple's Education-Focused Media Event
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No you don't. No where in Apple's presentation did they say that parents will now have to buy ipads for all their kids?
*LTD*
macrumors G4
Edit: Oops I quoted the wrong post. I was replying to the father who asked if he'd have to buy etextbooks along with an iPad.
Do you already buy textbooks for your children? If so, then you probably would.
If the district buys the textbooks (as most do), I would expect it — when it comes time to replace print texts with digital — would purchase enough licenses for a classroom and those versions would be made available to the iPads of the students in that class. At the end of the year — as with borrowing ebooks from a library — the textbook would uninstall from the student iPad and the district would be able to reassign it to another student.
LTD, oh wait, let me take that back.
Limited, Is that so? (Yes, LTD means Limited) If you are who you say you claim to be, you should reveal your credentials to the moderators and everyone here to take you seriously. But if you don't, then you won't be.
Talking such bravado while impersonating and taking credit for something you did'nt do can have consequences. If you are pretending to take credit for work you did'nt do, you can get banned or suspended by the moderators.
I don't claim to be a big shot but I'm also a graphic designer/illustrator, and do not have respect for those who 'pretend' to be something they're not.
And if it did'nt take you so long to design the addition, how did you manage to do it? Which addition of the museum were you involved in? Name it. What tools did you use? Who contracted you within the Guggenheim or the contracted firm that probably 'subcontracted' you? And where did you major architecture at?
Oh and since you're from Canada, you can't be Frank Gehry who's now living in LA (apparently).
Sayonara.
I think with the upcoming iPad announcement, we will see some relief from the cost of an iPad perspective. At the very least, I would expect the ipad2 to stay in production as the lower cost model. I would not be surprised to see an even lower cost model aimed at the K-12 market.
I suppose I was talking about University here - missing the point. I agree with middle/high school textbooks such as maths, languages, history etc... but would find it hard to be able to work digitally and taking notes. Remember all the doodles we drew on each page? ;-)
AppleInLVX
macrumors 65816
I guess this announcement wasn't for me. I don't get how it'll work. The whole thing hinges on a totally Apple-centric model, requiring Macs to make content and iPads to consume it. By their own stats less than a half year ago, Apple only has about 1/4 of the market. Unless I'm not appreciating how supersaturated the education sector is with Apple gear, I can't see how there's enough tech around to do this. Cool as iPads are, this is a HUGE expense to work within a very specific milieu. I don't see how this can work if it needs the purchase of Mac-centric systems for all of education and the purchase of an iPad for every student. Apple would rule the world if it happened, but I can't see that.
Am I wrong here? Is there something I don't get?
Am I wrong here? Is there something I don't get?
Many schools ARE providing iPads or laptops for every student, including public schools.
He was making a joke, boy did it go way over your head.
Edit: Read through this link, and then you can post your apology. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0697763/quotes
When you talk about cost....
This iPad/iBooks will, without a doubt, be less expensive than traditional textbooks.
We pay thousands in shipping charges for book throughout our district. Books are heavy and have all the other downsides already mentioned in the presentation.
As a high school teacher, I really hate it when I have to order ten or twenty replacement books to replace lost/damaged books and the replacements are a different version number. Not necessary a different "edition" but version so things do get moved around and when my assignment states to look on page 36, that no longer holds true for the newer replacement books.
With digital, all students books would be updated and I can change/correct my assignment once.
This iPad/iBooks will, without a doubt, be less expensive than traditional textbooks.
We pay thousands in shipping charges for book throughout our district. Books are heavy and have all the other downsides already mentioned in the presentation.
As a high school teacher, I really hate it when I have to order ten or twenty replacement books to replace lost/damaged books and the replacements are a different version number. Not necessary a different "edition" but version so things do get moved around and when my assignment states to look on page 36, that no longer holds true for the newer replacement books.
With digital, all students books would be updated and I can change/correct my assignment once.
mr.steevo
macrumors 65816
So I can send my kids to class and have them be the only kids still using an actual book because I can't afford an iPad. You don't see a problem with this?
1)I lived on campus all 4 years...would have liked to live off campus but the city crime was crazy...and I was a dj and computer guy...that's the jackpot for thieves.
2)I hear you and others about book weight. And I'm sure there's a percentage of the population that have to carry a lot of books each day. But what is it with all this complaining? I sound like my grandfather about walking uphill both ways to school barefoot in 3 feet of snow. 🙂
Seriously...what is with all this complaining about weight? It's as if every high school kid and college kid have to carry 11 books for the entire day on their back. It's NOT. It's carrying (regardless of weight) books from class A to class B and at some point to your bus/car/dorm. That's it. You plop your bag down on the floor once you get to the class!!! So you walk 5 minutes with 10, 20, or 30 pounds of books in your backpack/bag! What a bunch of bleeping whiners!
Again, I understand there are some extreme examples of extremely heavy bags. But I've never heard that to be anywhere near the norm. Unless you're a girl...who complains about everything in life being too heavy. Call me sexist, if you will.
I'm studying law, and the books for each class are 700-1100 pages long. I often have three classes in a day, and don't have any time between them (10 minute break or so). Carrying the books around is really annoying.
At the end of the day - a lot of what was presented was sizzle.
Here's the recap.
Apple has created an ebook creation tool which is better than what they had before and probably better than previously existed elsewhere
Apple has the major book publishers interested in this format and will be providing content (eventually).
That's pretty much it. Not to downplay it - but I will - it's only revolutionary if it gets widely adopted and there IS that content.
One or two books at one or two grade levels isn't going to do much.
Content is king. So until there is that content - this is just brewing.
Here's the recap.
Apple has created an ebook creation tool which is better than what they had before and probably better than previously existed elsewhere
Apple has the major book publishers interested in this format and will be providing content (eventually).
That's pretty much it. Not to downplay it - but I will - it's only revolutionary if it gets widely adopted and there IS that content.
One or two books at one or two grade levels isn't going to do much.
Content is king. So until there is that content - this is just brewing.
Hastings101
macrumors 68020
Of course, none of this matters until schools actually have iPads available for every student in every classroom... which is unlikely to happen in anything but the wealthiest school districts for a few years, especially with the cuts in public education spending thanks to recent economic trouble.
Maybe Apple has thought up a way around that though.
Maybe Apple has thought up a way around that though.
Dgail
macrumors regular
iBook
I find it interesting that the iBook app is considered inferior to other eBook readers. I do not have experience with the physical Kindle or Nooks, but have the Kindle on my iPad.
I find that that I actually prefer the iBook reader to the Kindle for iPad (was this intentional?) due to its ability to change fonts, font size and the "sepia" background as a means to lessen the effects of shiny glass glare. The Kindle for iPad seems to me to be a large PDF of what I am reading and does seem to be inflexible.
Regarding the cost of textbooks, if all Apple is charging ($14.99), that is a steal compared to what you would have to pay for a paper copy. Of course I am old enough to remember when schools provided loaned textbooks (and at the time California was known to have the best education system in the country). Having done 2 graduate degrees in the early 80s and 99-02, the cost of textbooks (particularly science which update yearly) was and remains outrageous.
I find it interesting that the iBook app is considered inferior to other eBook readers. I do not have experience with the physical Kindle or Nooks, but have the Kindle on my iPad.
I find that that I actually prefer the iBook reader to the Kindle for iPad (was this intentional?) due to its ability to change fonts, font size and the "sepia" background as a means to lessen the effects of shiny glass glare. The Kindle for iPad seems to me to be a large PDF of what I am reading and does seem to be inflexible.
Regarding the cost of textbooks, if all Apple is charging ($14.99), that is a steal compared to what you would have to pay for a paper copy. Of course I am old enough to remember when schools provided loaned textbooks (and at the time California was known to have the best education system in the country). Having done 2 graduate degrees in the early 80s and 99-02, the cost of textbooks (particularly science which update yearly) was and remains outrageous.
But is that really the case? Typically copyright law wouldn't necessarily allow that and I can't imagine the publishers agreeing to a system that would be OK with that. I assume the license agreement specifies buying one copy per student and they'd go after violators.
More likely the savings is that physical textbooks may cost $50 and as enough textbooks are used it ends up cheaper that way in the long run.
It's rumored that the iPad 2 will still be sold at a lower price when iPad 3 ships, which would be a good fit for this. At the time of that announcement they could announce even lower educational pricing as well.
Yep, the iPad stuff is cool but no access on a computer will be a deal breaker for many people. I'm still not likely to use something I can't read on my mac (and Kindle material can be read on pretty much any platform).