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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:10 PM   #51
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They're not going to give it a new design and call it the 3S. All the iPhones ending with "S" retained the exact same design.
the iPad 3 will have the tapered edges so its a semi-new design then release iPad 3S with quad-core processor, then iPad 4 will have complete redesign.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:11 PM   #52
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maybe this is the equivalent of the XX on the iPhone's prototypes back
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:12 PM   #53
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I think it will be a higher clocked A5 like what was mentioned in a previous post (1.2-1.5ghz) with a 543MP4 to cope with the retina display.

My wishlist would be a dual core A15 with 543MP4 and 1Gb RAM.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:13 PM   #54
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Exactly. It may or may not be a quad core, but i'm happy they are taking steps forward.
Isn't the A5 both the CPU and GPU?
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:14 PM   #55
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i'm geting most things i want. i'd like to see 2 64gb memory chips from hynix.
I never thought I'd say this, but I feel like iTunes Match has removed the incentive for me to get anything other than the lowest memory model.

I've been getting 32GB versions of iPhones (from the 3G onward) and iPads mainly to fit in my 256kbs music. With iTunes Match, I'd have access to my entire library at anytime (with a network connection) and I can store my most listened to songs (easily under 16GB) on the device itself.

I'm sure Apple realized the potential for Match to cannibalize higher margin device sales. I'm sure it's a minor effect, but Apple got 25 bucks from me this year for Match and will likely lose 100 bucks on my iPad 3 purchase.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:16 PM   #56
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Who cares if it is dual core, quad core, or unicorn core?

The only thing that matters is that is sees signification performance increases and continues to out perform Android tablets.

Apples hardware specs are consistently "underwhelming" in terms of raw specifications but when you put them up against competing tablets that are "overspeced" the Apple product continually win out.

Apple could release a single core iPad and as long as it was faster than that iPad 2 and had better battery performance, I couldn't care less and I am not sure why everyone else cares either.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:16 PM   #57
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I'm surprised they didn't go with the A5S moniker.
Because it looks a bit like "ASS"
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:17 PM   #58
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A forum post at Chinese site WeiPhone offers a photo of what is claimed to be the iPad 3's logic board showing an "A5X" system-on-a-chip.

Apple is expected to introduce an upgraded processor and graphics package for the iPad 3, with the assumption being that it would be called the A6 after the A4 initially appeared in the original iPad and iPhone 4 and was succeeded by the A5 in the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S. But if this photo is to be believed, that assumption appears to have been incorrect, with Apple instead having branded the upgraded package with the A5X name.

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A date code of "1146" on the A5X indicates that it was manufactured in the 46th week of 2011, which would have corresponded to November 14-20.

Several other features are also visible on the logic board, including a pair of 16 GB flash memory chips from Hynix and a rectangular Apple-branded chip. That chip appears to correspond to power management chips found in previous iPad teardowns but which carries a higher part number, suggesting an upgraded part.

Apple is expected to introduce the iPad 3 at a media event on March 7, with the device also receiving an ultra high-resolution display and LTE capabilities. Other claims have suggested that it will carry a slightly more tapered case design and perhaps offer an 8-megapixel rear camera.

Article Link: Photo of iPad 3 Logic Board with "A5X" System on a Chip
That's expected as Apple will bring the next generation chip design for iPad 4, sped up A5 makes sense. A5 is the fastest in its class anyway.

Regarding 32GB memory chip, here is my hope for 32GB being the minimal size with 32, 64, and 128GB.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:17 PM   #59
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Unless that chip has some kind of cover on it it looks fake.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:19 PM   #60
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I'll bet a dollar that we will see a full iPad 3 leaked out and in someones hands before release.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:19 PM   #61
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Obviously, this is the iPad 2S then.

Apple are clever - they've always held back from raising specs too early for the simple reason that, once they do introduce a major spec-bump, it appears more earth shattering.

The fact that the form factor is basically the same suggests this as well, since the product will be compatible with current Smart Covers. Once the iPad 3 arrives, that will be a new excuse for a new design cover, a quad-core CPU and several other features.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:21 PM   #62
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What about this possibility: the A5X is a modified dual core chipset for the continued production of the iPad 2, while the quad core A6 is used in the iPad 3?
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:21 PM   #63
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Ideally the A5X will be an A5 juiced with Cortexiphan.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:22 PM   #64
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I never thought I'd say this, but I feel like iTunes Match has removed the incentive for me to get anything other than the lowest memory....
You're not alone. Just last week I chose an MBA/128 over the 256 for pretty much this reason.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:22 PM   #65
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The A5 is very fast as it is, I will be happy with anything above that for iPad 3.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:22 PM   #66
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Obviously, this is the iPad 2S then.

Apple are clever - they've always held back from raising specs too early for the simple reason that, once they do introduce a major spec-bump, it appears more earth shattering.

The fact that the form factor is basically the same suggests this as well, since the product will be compatible with current Smart Covers. Once the iPad 3 arrives, that will be a new excuse for a new design cover, a quad-core CPU and several other features.
I would argue that the iPad 2 WAS only a slight spec bump.

By your logic the 2 should have been called the 1s and this new iPad with a Retina Display is the 2
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:22 PM   #67
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"If its not a quad core A6 then I wont buy it" complaints commence in 3... 2... 1...
If it is a quad core A6 then I won't buy it. Bet you weren't expecting that.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:23 PM   #68
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Unless that chip has some kind of cover on it it looks fake.
It's not a cover; it's a heat sink.
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To all those talking about "how powerful" the iPad 3 is going to be, you are missing the point of this post!

A5X is implying that this WONT be an A6 chip and thus not quad core. If this is true, which I'm thinking it could be photoshopped, then this is a big negative.

I'm still buying one, but I'll be jelous when the quad core A6 version comes out a year later and blows the A5X iPad 3 out of the water in speed.
I'd take a dual-core A15 based design over quad-core A9 based design any day.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:24 PM   #70
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Unless that chip has some kind of cover on it it looks fake.
It could be a heat spreader that contacts the EMI shield. Cortex and PowerVR are low power, but might be approaching levels where heat dissipation is a minor issue. Pure speculation.

I'm guessing this is still made on Samsung's 45nm process which would almost two generations older than Intel's non-planar 22nm and definitely more than two generations in power consumption.
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Think though. X has been used to mean "4" all the time, like in BMW's X-Drive system, to denote all wheel drive...four wheels powered.

It'll probably be quad core, if not really powerful dual core.

Also, the chip is silver. Does that suggest a small heatsink or something to be attached?
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It's not a cover; it's a heat sink.
That's what I was thinking. I guess its just an overclocked A5 then. They must have had some heat issues.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:27 PM   #73
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A dual core would seem to make more sense than a quad core in terms of power consumption and the number of things you'll be doing on the iPad at any one time.
The CPU can be designed so that the extra cores can be disabled when not required. Existing AMD and Intel CPUs already do this at a sub-core level, so there is no reason why Apple couldn't run the chip at dual core by default and enable additional cores as needed.

The A5X name would make a lot of sense if it is essentially an A5 with extra cores and power management added.
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Think though. X has been used to mean "4" all the time, like in BMW's X-Drive system, to denote all wheel drive...four wheels powered.

It'll probably be quad core, if not really powerful dual core.

Also, the chip is silver. Does that suggest a small heatsink or something to be attached?
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Unless that chip has some kind of cover on it it looks fake.
Or it could be A5X X=2 ~>two dual cores thats why looking different....
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