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Vacation Blackout Hints at Late July Release for OS X Mountain Lion

heisetax said:
With only a year to correct a ll of the shot t comings of Lion there is little hope left. With Apple spending so much lof it's time dumbing down the Mac OS I have my doubts of being wowed again.
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Because, dammit, computers should be hard to use!
 
charlituna said:
which only suggests that said company believes the release will be at that time, not that they actually have any real information
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Yes, probably company doesn't know much more than something might be happening around that time so are playing safe. Thought it might be new hardware at first, but that doesn't really figure to me. If you're going to gear up to do hardware support, then the time to do that would be when the (presumably expert) early adopters are done and the regular folks start taking them up, at least a month after launch.
 
DisMyMac said:
Why not make them buy it with Lion, then charge $19.99 for ML?

It's even the same price as their MPEG-2 component. That's actually a savings for anyone not needing it, you see...
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I wouldn't have minded paying $20 for Mountain Lion on my new Retina MPB. But, since it's free, it really is a savings.

I think Apple holds a patent on defying critics' expectations.
 
I need to buy a new Macbook Air for school, but is there any advantage (performance-wise) to waiting until the MBA ships native with Mountain Lion pre-installed? I had a really bad experience "upgrading" from Tiger to Leopard. Things were really twitchy and laggy afterward. I'd hate for a new computer to behave the same way.
 
GREEN4U said:
I need to buy a new Macbook Air for school, but is there any advantage (performance-wise) to waiting until the MBA ships native with Mountain Lion pre-installed? I had a really bad experience "upgrading" from Tiger to Leopard. Things were really twitchy and laggy afterward. I'd hate for a new computer to behave the same way.
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Not really, its the same hardware. You can just use lion for now, and when mountain lion ships make a backup and perform a clean install. I would suggest you make a traditional copy and paste backup rather than a time machine backup.
 
If it's ML, I'm not looking forward to all the people who get the first version of a new OS and then whine about glitches.

I'm excited to see what ML has to offer but I'll still wait for 10.8.1 or 10.8.2.

Cheers! 😀
 
jakesteramma said:
If it's ML, I'm not looking forward to all the people who get the first version of a new OS and then whine about glitches.

I'm excited to see what ML has to offer but I'll still wait for 10.8.1 or 10.8.2.

Cheers! 😀
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I upgraded to Lion within minutes of it coming out. Had no problems except I missed Expose. One of these days, I am going to get nailed for upgrading so quickly.
 
Rosetta Support??

Will Apple bring back Rosetta support in Mountain Lion? This has been a big bummer for me and the place where I work, we have thousands of files in AppleWorks format and still running Snow Leopard so we can run AppleWorks. We really need that support, and I can't believe Apple totally yanked it like this in Lion -- The technology is there to fully support it, and there still are many PowerPC apps that have no intel versions, because they aren't supported.
 
AppleCare is partly run by Apple and partly through third party call centers. When a new product or OS is released, the call center staff begins training on the important parts of it THAT MORNING. Training modules on announced features gets done a day or two early, while the unannounced stuff gets its own module that day.

Staff is needed to man the phones, while other staff get up to speed.

Also, the call centers escalate urgent or widespread issues to Apple engineering for immediate treatment (things like boot to black, kernel panics, login issues, etc.). The night of a product launch is about the only time Engineering staff are available on call to tier 2 tech support. Any other times, tier 2 makes a request via a web based form and they'll get a terse reply back within 3-7 days. During the day of a launch, engineers are on call.

All that takes time and it takes lots and lots of manpower.
 
I have a question.
I just got my rMBP so do I get a free upgrade or would I have to pay another 20.00 for it? Forgot to ask the rep.
New to all of this. Thank you!
 
well that's great some new hardware might be released. but that's hilarious if a blackout is required for something that is distributed online lol. 😛
 
Looking forward to the ML release, a nice little spec bump.

It seems to me that Apple are no longer in the business of providing "operating" systems rather than ecosystems. Environments in which we live, drive and survive, using those systems to source our music, films and software. The benefits of upgrading to ML are similar to those of upgrading from iOS 5 to iOS 6, they fall mainly on Apple Incs side. With a better ecosystem, users will spend more of their money via their stores.

With that in mind why is a spec bump on my phone free and a spec bump for my Macs $20?

Mac owners are the evangelists of the Apple world, sure we derive a benefit from the upgrade but we will go on and tell the world to dump their Windows machines. Why do we have to tolerate being treated in such a fashion? Apple knows full well that those who cough up will go on to spend more money via the online stores. I suggest that the upgrade should be free of charge, and that charging the faithful $20 because they will pay is immoral.

This situation is not similar to the windows upgrade which I am sure will cost an awful lot more. Microsoft do not have an ecosystem which directs users to their stores. They have costs, they earn revenue from the sale of their platform. Apple's revenue from sales of the ML upgrade will be tiny in relation to income from their store businesses.

Perhaps Apple are sensible of this and have planned a blackout for all of those Mac users who have just learned their upgrade will be free and want to say thank you.
 
WardC said:
Will Apple bring back Rosetta support in Mountain Lion? This has been a big bummer for me and the place where I work, we have thousands of files in AppleWorks format and still running Snow Leopard so we can run AppleWorks. We really need that support, and I can't believe Apple totally yanked it like this in Lion -- The technology is there to fully support it, and there still are many PowerPC apps that have no intel versions, because they aren't supported.
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No, it's not going to come back. Ever. Probably best to get some kind of plan in place to migrate those files to a different format.

Same goes for PPC apps, best start looking for replacements.

Not sure why you didn't start thinking about this a year ago when Lion was released though.
 
Looking Forward

There were so many weird things people were saying about Lion that I just stayed on SL. Then last week I got my new MacBook Pro with Lion. Maybe it's just because it's 10.7.4 and not 10.7.0 but I like Lion a lot. Now, I can't wait until ML comes out.
 
As somone who just got a new MacBook pro a few days ago I have to say Lion is not that bad. I came from Panther though. 🙂 So Mountain Lion is the icing on the cake for me. 🙂
 
Here is an interesting pattern some might want to note.

Apple "all hands meeting" sometime between Feb22-Feb25
Ipad 3 launch date March 7th.

Apple "all hands meeting" May 22nd.
rMBP launch date June 11th.

Apple "all hands meeting" June 24th
iMac launch date ??July??(with or prior to an already announced OS update)

All this talk of "apple doesn't hold all hands meeting prior to product launch" is complete bologna.
 
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