Have you been censored on MacRumors?

nostaws · Sep 6, 2012, 01:11 PM

What is with MacRumors censoring/removing posts? I believe they have a right to do so (it is their own site). At the same time, I don't think it jibes with the ideals of MacRumors.

I made a post containing no profanity, and made no personal attacks, but compared the front page worthiness of the article posted by Eric Slivka: "New Photos Show Details of Alleged 'iPad Mini' Rear Shell,"

and the article by Jordan Golson: "Laurene Powell Jobs Spotted Next to Chelsea Clinton at Democratic National Convention."

MacRumors deleted the comment.

Have you been censored by MacRumors?

killerrobot · Sep 6, 2012, 01:13 PM

All the ****ing time

Perhaps it was posted under the iphone forum instead of the site feedback forum such as this one.

cyks · Sep 6, 2012, 01:16 PM

As a long time member here, I would have guessed that you'd know how to contact the mods directly to find out their reasoning instead of starting a thread which is certain to be wastelanded and possibly worse for you.

If you have a problem or concerns: How to contact the moderators and administrators.

xnickitynickx · Sep 6, 2012, 01:16 PM

Was it in the wrong section of the forum?
Kinda like this one...

Because that could be why. If you stick things in the right location, and stick to the forum rules, you should be fine.

STiNG Operation · Sep 6, 2012, 01:17 PM

Yupp lol. Don't try to reason with the moderators by replying back...it's their site to edit as they please

I don't mind it, this is a good info site and I don't troll people so I should be good....right? haha

arn · Sep 6, 2012, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostaws

What is with MacRumors censoring/removing posts? I believe they have a right to do so (it is their own site). At the same time, I don't think it jibes with the ideals of MacRumors.

I made a post containing no profanity, and made no personal attacks, but compared the front page worthiness of the article posted by Eric Slivka: "New Photos Show Details of Alleged 'iPad Mini' Rear Shell,"

and the article by Jordan Golson: "Laurene Powell Jobs Spotted Next to Chelsea Clinton at Democratic National Convention."

MacRumors deleted the comment.

Have you been censored by MacRumors?

Front-page worthiness is something you can debate in the site feedback if you wish. We delete those posts (and other posts) from the main news threads under "off-topic" grounds.

arn

dukebound85 · Sep 6, 2012, 01:43 PM

I've been censored, I've been deleted, I've been warned, and I have had multiple time outs in the past.

However, it has been quite a while since I have run afoul the moderators and hope it stays that way!

aliensporebomb · Sep 6, 2012, 04:53 PM

Sometimes I can post things a little too matter of factly without consideration of users feelings and I seem to recall a moderator emailing me nicely saying they removed a post so that I could post it again but reworded. That was fine.

DakotaGuy · Sep 6, 2012, 06:37 PM

I had a post deleted once and I got a warning, however I did break a rule about correcting someone's spelling error so I was in the wrong. I'm actually glad they are willing to delete and warn instead of just suspending. The incident did make me re-read the rules about posting so in the end it was a good learning experience.

GoreVidal · Sep 6, 2012, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukebound85

I've been censored, I've been deleted, I've been warned, and I have had multiple time outs in the past.

However, it has been quite a while since I have run afoul the moderators and hope it stays that way!

Ah yes, I for one bow to our "moderating overlords"

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aliensporebomb

Sometimes I can post things a little too matter of factly without consideration of users feelings and I seem to recall a moderator emailing me nicely saying they removed a post so that I could post it again but reworded. That was fine.

Gods forbid someone's feelings get hurt!

einmusiker · Sep 6, 2012, 07:56 PM

I think things have gotten better. In the past there seemed to be some mods that took things personally and reacted viscerally. These days the mods seem much more fair and not so reactive

snberk103 · Sep 7, 2012, 03:32 PM

Yes. Never felt it was undeserved. Usually for being off-topic. All-in-all I respect the moderator's assessments.

fun173 · Sep 7, 2012, 04:40 PM

**** No!

Edit: Now, apparently I have been

SandboxGeneral · Sep 7, 2012, 04:45 PM

Yes, but only because I broke a rule. Nothing major though and I don't think it had any malice in the moderation at all from the mod team. They do a fine job all around as far as I can tell.

Peace · Sep 7, 2012, 04:45 PM

Censorship ? Is this a joke ?

You can't expect freedom of speech on a privately owned forum.

srf4real · Sep 7, 2012, 08:45 PM

I've gotten away with a lot over the years. Rarely, I have crossed the line.. and been edited by our hard working moderators. Typically, when I have offended or strayed far enough for a mod to step in, I feel that a private message to said mod with explanation, apology, and "keep up the good work" far more effective and gratifying than starting a worthless thread about my lack of adherence to the forum rules.

maflynn · Sep 7, 2012, 09:06 PM

Posts are not removed capriciously nor would the moderation team deem the actions as censorship as we are not looking to prohbit discussions but rather contain them within the boundaries of the rules and stated thread topics.

Posts like +1, me too, lol are frequently removed. Meme posts such as "Jobs would not have allowed this" are also removed as they add nothing to the discussion and frequently derail them.

Other posts that are off topic to the subject matter can be removed if they start derailing a thread and of course any post that violates the rules, such as a member insulting another member will be removed.

In no case do we look to stop or alter discussions, and I can say that we do not take removing a member's post lightly, in fact when in doubt we err on the conservative side and leave it.

If any member believes his post was removed without cause or wishes to dispute the action, then they should fill out the contact us form and the administrators will review the actions and respond.

einmusiker · Sep 7, 2012, 09:49 PM

Wait where did my post go????

turtle777 · Sep 7, 2012, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

Censorship ? Is this a joke ?

You can't expect freedom of speech on a privately owned forum.

Sure you can expect it. But you won't get it.

-t

nissan.gtp · Sep 7, 2012, 09:54 PM

never had any problems

wordoflife · Sep 7, 2012, 09:59 PM

Yep, and for not good reasons either, imo.
Not a fan of a handful of the moderation to be honest.

Pretty much sums it up right here. PMing them back is just useless and a waste of your time. A lot of them feel that they're always 100% right about everything. They'll tell you to report it by using the link at the bottom, but nothing will happen. At the end of the day, your post was already deleted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by STiNG Operation

Yupp lol. Don't try to reason with the moderators by replying back...it's their site to edit as they please

I don't mind it, this is a good info site and I don't troll people so I should be good....right? haha

But I guess I have to deal with it if I want to use Macrumors.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.

teleromeo · Sep 7, 2012, 10:02 PM

A while ago someone was complaining about anoying flash add on several sites.
My post was deleted after I told him how to remove these adds...
I guess they want to keep this site free.

ericrwalker · Sep 7, 2012, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wordoflife

Not a fan of a handful of the moderation to be honest.

Heard that, actually there are only a couple that I am not a fan of, it was a few until recently one "retired".

wordoflife · Sep 7, 2012, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericrwalker

Heard that, actually there are only a couple that I am not a fan of, it was a few until recently one "retired".

The only thing is that many of them feel infallible and whenever you try to bring something up, you pretty much get blocked out from giving your opinion.

Sending a PM is useless because they refuse to believe that they might have mesed up.
Clicking "report a problem" isn't going to reverse the problem
Creating a public thread gets deleted (surprised that this one has not been, tbh)

Just my opinion. Don't get offended. I understand that the mods/admins are doing what they think is best for the overall community. Just think that the system is a tad flawed though.

That being said, I can live with it because the pros outweigh the cons when it comes to using this forum. Respect where respect is due. :P

ChristianJapan · Sep 8, 2012, 01:33 AM

just recently I got a message deleted ... I posted in the "official new member Thread"; My bad.

Not really censorship; more housekeeping.
Not sure if there is any other case; not always read the crap I wrote before.

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Sep 6, 2012, 01:11 PM	#1
nostaws macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2006	Have you been censored on MacRumors? What is with MacRumors censoring/removing posts? I believe they have a right to do so (it is their own site). At the same time, I don't think it jibes with the ideals of MacRumors. I made a post containing no profanity, and made no personal attacks, but compared the front page worthiness of the article posted by Eric Slivka: "New Photos Show Details of Alleged 'iPad Mini' Rear Shell," and the article by Jordan Golson: "Laurene Powell Jobs Spotted Next to Chelsea Clinton at Democratic National Convention." MacRumors deleted the comment. Have you been censored by MacRumors?
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Sep 6, 2012, 01:13 PM	#2
killerrobot macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: 127.0.0.1	All the ****ing time Perhaps it was posted under the iphone forum instead of the site feedback forum such as this one. __________________ Another day older and deeper in debt.
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Sep 6, 2012, 01:16 PM	#4
xnickitynickx macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Orlando, FL	Was it in the wrong section of the forum? Kinda like this one... Because that could be why. If you stick things in the right location, and stick to the forum rules, you should be fine. __________________ 13" MacBook Air (2.0 GHz i7, 8GB RAM, 256 Flash); iPad (3rd Gen); iPhone 4S; AppleTV; too many iPods to list...
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Sep 6, 2012, 01:17 PM	#5
STiNG Operation macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: The Zoo	Yupp lol. Don't try to reason with the moderators by replying back...it's their site to edit as they please I don't mind it, this is a good info site and I don't troll people so I should be good....right? haha __________________ If you want to know what people think of you, pull up your Facebook and judge yourself. Image
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Sep 6, 2012, 01:16 PM	#3
cyks macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Westchester County, NY	As a long time member here, I would have guessed that you'd know how to contact the mods directly to find out their reasoning instead of starting a thread which is certain to be wastelanded and possibly worse for you. If you have a problem or concerns: How to contact the moderators and administrators.
	4

Sep 6, 2012, 01:43 PM	#7
dukebound85 macrumors P6 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: 5045 feet above seal level	I've been censored, I've been deleted, I've been warned, and I have had multiple time outs in the past. However, it has been quite a while since I have run afoul the moderators and hope it stays that way!
	5

Sep 6, 2012, 04:53 PM	#8
aliensporebomb macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA, Urth	Ah Sometimes I can post things a little too matter of factly without consideration of users feelings and I seem to recall a moderator emailing me nicely saying they removed a post so that I could post it again but reworded. That was fine. __________________ ASB Music Web is at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/ "This is Aliensporebomb" (a soundtrack with no film) is available at http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/thi...mb/id391880218
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Sep 6, 2012, 06:37 PM	#9
DakotaGuy macrumors 68030 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South Dakota, USA	I had a post deleted once and I got a warning, however I did break a rule about correcting someone's spelling error so I was in the wrong. I'm actually glad they are willing to delete and warn instead of just suspending. The incident did make me re-read the rules about posting so in the end it was a good learning experience. __________________ Mac: 21.5" iMac Core i5 2.5 Ghz "Sandy Bridge" iPad 2 64 GB WiFi - iPod Touch 2G 32 GB - iPod Classic 80GB - Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX
	2

Sep 6, 2012, 07:56 PM	#11
einmusiker macrumors 68020 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Location: Location:	I think things have gotten better. In the past there seemed to be some mods that took things personally and reacted viscerally. These days the mods seem much more fair and not so reactive __________________ I <3 iPad and Macbook, I <3 GoOgle Voice, I <3 my Android phone. waiting for the shtuff to hit the fan when people start using tons of data on LTE :Popping popcorn:
	1

Sep 7, 2012, 03:32 PM	#12
snberk103 macrumors 601 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: An Island in the Salish Sea	Yes. Never felt it was undeserved. Usually for being off-topic. All-in-all I respect the moderator's assessments. __________________ My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - Jack Layton
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Sep 7, 2012, 04:40 PM	#13
fun173 macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2009	**** No! Edit: Now, apparently I have been __________________ Happy New Year!! Now, buy my apps
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Sep 7, 2012, 04:45 PM	#14
SandboxGeneral Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: The New World	Yes, but only because I broke a rule. Nothing major though and I don't think it had any malice in the moderation at all from the mod team. They do a fine job all around as far as I can tell. __________________ Twitter \| Website \| ♫ Free iTunes Music ♫ *Random Access Memories* ~ daft punk
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Sep 7, 2012, 04:45 PM	#15
Peace macrumors P6 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Space--The ONLY Frontier	Censorship ? Is this a joke ? You can't expect freedom of speech on a privately owned forum.
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Sep 7, 2012, 08:45 PM	#16
srf4real macrumors 68030 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: paradise beach FL	I've gotten away with a lot over the years. Rarely, I have crossed the line.. and been edited by our hard working moderators. Typically, when I have offended or strayed far enough for a mod to step in, I feel that a private message to said mod with explanation, apology, and "keep up the good work" far more effective and gratifying than starting a worthless thread about my lack of adherence to the forum rules. __________________ iSurf. For real.
	1

Sep 7, 2012, 09:06 PM	#17
maflynn Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Boston	Posts are not removed capriciously nor would the moderation team deem the actions as censorship as we are not looking to prohbit discussions but rather contain them within the boundaries of the rules and stated thread topics. Posts like +1, me too, lol are frequently removed. Meme posts such as "Jobs would not have allowed this" are also removed as they add nothing to the discussion and frequently derail them. Other posts that are off topic to the subject matter can be removed if they start derailing a thread and of course any post that violates the rules, such as a member insulting another member will be removed. In no case do we look to stop or alter discussions, and I can say that we do not take removing a member's post lightly, in fact when in doubt we err on the conservative side and leave it. If any member believes his post was removed without cause or wishes to dispute the action, then they should fill out the contact us form and the administrators will review the actions and respond.
	1

Sep 7, 2012, 09:49 PM	#18
einmusiker macrumors 68020 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Location: Location:	Wait where did my post go???? __________________ I <3 iPad and Macbook, I <3 GoOgle Voice, I <3 my Android phone. waiting for the shtuff to hit the fan when people start using tons of data on LTE :Popping popcorn:
	1

Sep 7, 2012, 09:54 PM	#20
nissan.gtp macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Virginia	never had any problems __________________ Mountain Lion 24 inch iMac 2.4Ghz core duo 3GB 500 GB Mountain Lion 13 inch MacBook Air 1.7Ghz i5 4GB 256 GB iPhone 4s 32GB
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Sep 7, 2012, 10:02 PM	#22
teleromeo macrumors 65816 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kidnapped by aliens	A while ago someone was complaining about anoying flash add on several sites. My post was deleted after I told him how to remove these adds... I guess they want to keep this site free. __________________ wie heb ik aan de lijn hallo hallo
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Sep 8, 2012, 01:33 AM	#25
ChristianJapan macrumors 68030 Join Date: May 2010 Location: 東京	just recently I got a message deleted ... I posted in the "official new member Thread"; My bad. Not really censorship; more housekeeping. Not sure if there is any other case; not always read the crap I wrote before. __________________ I support the MacRumors Blood Drive!
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