first, Verizon iPhone 5 will work with T-Mobile if it is unlocked.
second, T-Mobile do not have 4G LTE.
maybe you dont know how fast 4G LTE is, or you dont even know what 4G LTE is.
Get your fact straight next time.
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Verizon iPhone 5 Confirmed to Be Unlocked on GSM 3G Networks
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first, Verizon iPhone 5 will work with T-Mobile if it is unlocked.
second, T-Mobile do not have 4G LTE.
maybe you dont know how fast 4G LTE is, or you dont even know what 4G LTE is.
Get your fact straight next time.
I can confirm that other sim cards work with a Verizon iPhone 5
Some good news: I was reading through this post since yesterday and hoping some one else would confirm that these Verizon iPhone 5's would work with other sim cards. I purchased a Verizon iPhone 5 (at full price since I did not want to loose my unlimited plan) from the Apple store yesterday. I practiced cutting a sim card to the nano size with an AT&T sim card and then took a TruSim card (they are on T-Mobile's network in the US) and stuck it in. I initially got the sign on the upper left corner 'no service' but I waited for 1-2 minutes and then the T-Mobile sign came up. Obviously, it is on the edge network but it is nice to know and confirm that these Verizon iPhone 5 are really unlocked. I travel a lot internationally and always like to use local pre-paid sim cards due to cost.
One piece of advice (however, I take no responsibility if you damage your sim card), when trimming the sim card, you will end up extending into that gold coloured part (I am not sure what it is called) of the sim card but it still seems to function on the cards that I cut.
Good luck!
Some good news: I was reading through this post since yesterday and hoping some one else would confirm that these Verizon iPhone 5's would work with other sim cards. I purchased a Verizon iPhone 5 (at full price since I did not want to loose my unlimited plan) from the Apple store yesterday. I practiced cutting a sim card to the nano size with an AT&T sim card and then took a TruSim card (they are on T-Mobile's network in the US) and stuck it in. I initially got the sign on the upper left corner 'no service' but I waited for 1-2 minutes and then the T-Mobile sign came up. Obviously, it is on the edge network but it is nice to know and confirm that these Verizon iPhone 5 are really unlocked. I travel a lot internationally and always like to use local pre-paid sim cards due to cost.
One piece of advice (however, I take no responsibility if you damage your sim card), when trimming the sim card, you will end up extending into that gold coloured part (I am not sure what it is called) of the sim card but it still seems to function on the cards that I cut.
Good luck!
Is it likely or even possible that Apple, AT&T, Verizon could somehow put an end to this ability to use the Verizon model on ATT? Like with a software update, etc?
Doubt it. Verizon is forced to do this because FCC put in a rule that they need the phones unlocked, because they got the 700mhz LTE Band.
Also Verizon isn't allowed to throttle, and they were also forced to put back tethering apps back on android market.
Its not so much as CDMA being "locked" but other CDMA carriers refusing to activate phones not sold by them (i.e. Sprint, Verizon).
eastercat
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No. Verizon doesn't allow phones that weren't sold under their brand. You have to have a verizon phone to use verizon service.
There hasn't been a software unlock since the first few months of the 4.
You can't use another cdma carrier, but you can use gsm.
Verizon can keep you off with their database. AT&T doesn't keep a database. They're dependent on gsm cards. Besides, at&t wants your money.
T-Mobile updating to lte and will be on band 4 so he need a att 5 ( Get your fact straight next time
I from Russia. How I can buy Iphone 5 not to wait too long? Ebay not to offer - there the high prices, and many sellers don't send sending to Russia. Whether there are any intermediaries who can quickly redeem unlocked Iphone 5 where they are available and to send them in Russia through Fedex, DHL or any other fast delivery service? Tell, please.
First, learn English grammar.
Second, T-Mobile doesn't have LTE right now, but when it does, it'll require the AT&T model iPhone 5, as it supports the AWS band that T-Mobile's LTE service will be on.
The "4G" iPhone 5 is way faster than my 3G iPhone 4. The speed improvement uploading and downloading was immediately apparent. Calling it 4G is fine. It is faster.
iPhone 5 with no plan
Does anyone know if you buy the iPhone 5 on the no contract for $650 will it be unlocked as well or just if its under contract
Does anyone know if you buy the iPhone 5 on the no contract for $650 will it be unlocked as well or just if its under contract
John.B
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We're all pretty sure the AT&T iPhone 5 will be sim locked to their network, even the $650 full price version. You'll always be better off buying the unlocked version direct from Apple when it ships in a few weeks.
What about Verizon with them shipping the contract ones unlocked but I'm wondering about the month to month
It is legally required to come unlocked regardless of contract status as it operates on the 700 block of LTE spectrum.
John.B
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The CDMA carriers have this nasty habit of refusing to activate any CDMA phone not originally sold for their network (Sprint still has to sell a massive number of iPhones due to their contract with Apple, but Verizon is really no better). So that's out.
But it's been confirmed that you can buy the Verizon iPhone to use on the AT&T network with an AT&T SIM card, but only on AT&T's GSM/HSPA/HSPA+ bands (what AT&T likes to call 4G). Unfortunately, the Verizon iPhone 5 won't work for AT&T's LTE network because the two models have different radios that support different LTE bands.
I don't think we know yet how the Verizon iPhone 5 will work overseas with a SIM card from an overseas carrier that supports LTE bands 1, 3, or 5. Is it just a matter of swapping SIM cards or will the baseband need to be changed?
In any case, if you buy the Verizon iPhone 5 on contract you are still on the hook for either the two year agreement or paying the ETF.
Has anyone been quoted a full price yet for the Verizon iPhone 5?
if you go on there site the month to month plan says that it is 649 for 16 gb
I heard that it should work overseas on carriers like vodafone and O2, thats the reason i was looking at verizons because i do alot of traveling to the united kingdom
John.B
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It looks like your only choice for an LTE carrier in the UK would be EE (Everything Everywhere, the Orange/T-Mobile joint venture):
http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/
From what I can tell, O2 and Vodaphone still don't have LTE infrastructure online yet, because their 800MHz/2600MHz spectrum won't be auctioned off until 2013. Neither version of the iPhone 5 will support those bands anyway. Maybe next year's iPhone 5S?
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So which IPhone do they sell over there, or willit just not work on the 4g which is ok since all i get is barley 3g where i am
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That's funny, because up here in the hills of LA, there are plenty of spots where Verizon users can't get a signal, but T-Mobile users can (although I am sure the opposite is true in other locations).
All I know is that since switching to T-Mobile, I have not noticed ANY real difference in terms of coverage and data, but have noticed a HUGE difference in price (just about 50% less).
I'll get an iPhone 5 as soon as they start selling them unlocked and will see how it works on the T-Mobile network out here.
Does this apply to Sprint phones as well?
If I get an iPhone5 with sprint, will I be able to use a GSM sim card in Europe without getting it unlocked?
If I get an iPhone5 with sprint, will I be able to use a GSM sim card in Europe without getting it unlocked?