IMO, the Nokia Lumia 920 is the first truly worthy adversary to the iPhone! (Pics)

[Akash.B]

Originally Posted by Bkasm

Finally, we know. November 7th pre-order date for AT&T with a November 9th release. Pricing will be $99 and comes with a FREE wireless charging plate. Folks, that is one hell of a deal for this beast of a phone.

That just sealed the deal. Most definitely getting one!! Does anyone know how much it will cost unlocked? Or how to do a phantom line upgrade?

[b166er]

Originally Posted by Bkasm

Finally, we know. November 7th pre-order date for AT&T with a November 9th release. Pricing will be $99 and comes with a FREE wireless charging plate. Folks, that is one hell of a deal for this beast of a phone.

do you have a link for this?

[Bkasm]

Originally Posted by b166er

do you have a link for this?

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/6/36...g-release-date

http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/06/a...phone-pricing/

[spinedoc77]

Originally Posted by Pjstock42

Again Microsoft dropped the ball here in terms of manufacturing.

They were so, so close to prying many people away from Android/iOS - including me who has owned every iOS product of the last 3/4 years, but they just couldnt get the right design.

Right now if you want to migrate to Win8, you have to choose between the 920 which is inexcusably heavy/bulky, or the HTC 8X which looks great but has terrible battery life.

Hopefully they can figure out their manufacturing problems before the platform dies for good.

You also have the Samsung Ativ coming, that's what I'm waiting for. Thin as an iphone, big screen, microsd slot. Then after that hopefully the surface phone isn't too far out.

[F123D]

Excellent price with the wireless charger.

[b166er]

Originally Posted by Bkasm

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/6/36...g-release-date

http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/06/a...phone-pricing/

Thanks.

I'm confused now- what does this mean for people (like me) who pre-ordered a 920 through best buy? We paid $150 and there was no mention of a mat being included. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

My order shows as having been processed for shipping (not shipped) and at that stage of the game it's too late to cancel. Wonder what's going on here, I keep hearing different things about release dates and best buy told me this item must be shipped, no in store pick up option.

[THE JUICEMAN]

Originally Posted by b166er

Thanks.

I'm confused now- what does this mean for people (like me) who pre-ordered a 920 through best buy? We paid $150 and there was no mention of a mat being included. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

My order shows as having been processed for shipping (not shipped) and at that stage of the game it's too late to cancel. Wonder what's going on here, I keep hearing different things about release dates and best buy told me this item must be shipped, no in store pick up option.

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/wmexp...v8/story01.htm

I think you will be happy with this link.

[b166er]

I'm even noticing now that the hold on my account from BB is gone. I wonder if they are re-processing the orders to preemptively refund the $50 back to the people? More questions than answers, best buy! No big deal either way, I am just excited to check out this phone and play with a new OS and see how it suits me.

[Vegastouch]

Originally Posted by b166er

Thanks.

I'm confused now- what does this mean for people (like me) who pre-ordered a 920 through best buy? We paid $150 and there was no mention of a mat being included. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

My order shows as having been processed for shipping (not shipped) and at that stage of the game it's too late to cancel. Wonder what's going on here, I keep hearing different things about release dates and best buy told me this item must be shipped, no in store pick up option.

Is why i never pre order. No need to pre order that phone. Just walk i and get it.

[Pjstock42]

Originally Posted by spinedoc77

You also have the Samsung Ativ coming, that's what I'm waiting for. Thin as an iphone, big screen, microsd slot. Then after that hopefully the surface phone isn't too far out.

Just looked it up...Looks ok but 4.8" screen?? Getting into Galaxy Note territory there.

[spinedoc77]

Originally Posted by Pjstock42

Just looked it up...Looks ok but 4.8" screen?? Getting into Galaxy Note territory there.

Yeah it's the same physical shell as the S3, so you can even go to a cellular store and pick it up and handle it. I'm realizing, at least for my purposes, that a smartphone is utterly useless without a big screen. It's incredibly painful to browse the web on my iphone4s and I only do it if I really need something.

I considered the note, but man it's just too huge for me. I figure the Ativ being a bit bigger will offset the 920's ridiculous heaviness and chunkiness, plus the microSD slot means a lot to me.

[inselstudent]

I bought the 820 today and am returning it tomorrow. Poor camera, poor interface, poor app selection. It was my first Windows phone and I'd imagined the tiles to be much more comfortable to use. Also, the 213ppi or so screen is a huge step backwards compared to my iPhone 4. The only thing that's notably better is the browser - because it's faster. But then my 4 has two-year-old hardware and apart from that it works just as well.

One more thing, the camera button on the side feels reeeeaaaally cheap. When using it I always had the feeling it wouldn't even work. Didn't even had a reassuring "click" sound...

[beyondthepale35]

Originally Posted by inselstudent

I bought the 820 today and am returning it tomorrow. Poor camera, poor interface, poor app selection. It was my first Windows phone and I'd imagined the tiles to be much more comfortable to use. Also, the 213ppi or so screen is a huge step backwards compared to my iPhone 4. The only thing that's notably better is the browser - because it's faster. But then my 4 has two-year-old hardware and apart from that it works just as well.

One more thing, the camera button on the side feels reeeeaaaally cheap. When using it I always had the feeling it wouldn't even work. Didn't even had a reassuring "click" sound...

Hooray, another person who used something for a day and because its not familiar theyre returning it. Its their mid entry phone, of course its not going to be on the same level as an iphone 5. I also doubt a Nokia phone would have a cheap feeling shutter button, I havent heard anything about that, probably an abnormality. Can always just press the screen to take shots anyway.

[inselstudent]

Originally Posted by beyondthepale35

Hooray, another person who used something for a day and because its not familiar theyre returning it. Its their mid entry phone, of course its not going to be on the same level as an iphone 5. I also doubt a Nokia phone would have a cheap feeling shutter button, I havent heard anything about that, probably an abnormality. Can always just press the screen to take shots anyway.

You are right that I might get used to all that. But look, the only comparison I have is a two year old iPhone 4, and two years are a lot of time in technology, so why is it that Nokia doesn't manage to give a better first impression on a 450 euros handset in 2012? 450 euros isn't even that far away from the iPhone's pricing - and I admit that for the price I'd expected more.

[Vitrum]

Honestly the 920 is awesome but the 820 is a fail at that price.

[Technarchy]

Originally Posted by spinedoc77

You also have the Samsung Ativ coming, that's what I'm waiting for. Thin as an iphone, big screen, microsd slot. Then after that hopefully the surface phone isn't too far out.

Too bad they ruined the package with an AMOLED screen. Plus AMOLED + Metro UI = the worst screen burn in I've ever seen.

I want a Windows 8 phone, and will probably get an HTC 8X because the Nokia is too bulky and the ATIV is AMOLED.

[snow blind]

Originally Posted by Technarchy

Too bad they ruined the package with an AMOLED screen. Plus AMOLED + Metro UI = the worst screen burn in I've ever seen.

I want a Windows 8 phone, and will probably get an HTC 8X because the Nokia is too bulky and the ATIV is AMOLED.

I think the majority of the people who say it's "too heavy" or it's "too bulky" haven't had hands on time with it. Have you had the opportunity? Not criticizing... i'm honestly curious as mine should be delivered tomorrow and i've been worried about the heft.

[Technarchy]

Originally Posted by snow blind

I think the majority of the people who say it's "too heavy" or it's "too bulky" haven't had hands on time with it. Have you had the opportunity? Not criticizing... i'm honestly curious as mine should be delivered tomorrow and i've been worried about the heft.

The Lumia 900 was too bulky. The 920 is even bigger. That's the point of reference.

[snow blind]

Originally Posted by Technarchy

The Lumia 900 was too bulky. The 920 is even bigger. That's the point of reference.

Got ya. The 900 was completely fine to me. A superbly built device at a comfortable size. I expect the 920's increase to be negligible.

[beyondthepale35]

Just ordered my 920, and an 820 for my mom since she needs to move up to the smartphone world. Not too concerned about the weight since my girlfriend has an HTC Inspire and its the exact same weight, if her 5'4" 120 lb body can handle it im sure ill be ok.

[gotzero]

I have a Lumia 920 arriving tomorrow. Even with the off contract pricing it was so cheap it is worth a try.

My world mostly revolves around e-mail and (mostly Office) attachments, so there seems to be little to lose giving windows mobile a try. Legit Office along with the nice sized screen makes a winning combination. I really do not care about the camera or wireless charging but neither hurt.

The other phone I am considering is a Galaxy Note II, and the Lumia is tiny by comparison. I hope this is a big hit for windows mobile and it encourages Apple and Google to court more real productivity software for mobile platforms.

[snow blind]

Originally Posted by gotzero

I hope this is a big hit for windows mobile and it encourages Apple and Google to court more real productivity software for mobile platforms.

Same here! Both Apple and Google need a swift kick in the pants. Competition is good!

[b166er]

I don't understand why google's presence on WP8 is so low. Yeah I get they have their own mobile, OS, but they are smart enough to know that not everyone is going to use Android. Either by choice, or by mandate from their jobs. They need to kick it up a notch offering some of their services on WP8.

Naturally, the google ecosystem is great on android, but in all honesty that's about the only thing I found great about it from a professional point of view. The tweaks are cool and there are absolutely some cool features that iOS needs to catch up to, but most of it is really just bling. As far as a down to business mobile OS Android doesn't offer much more than anyone else. I really hope they start putting some apps out for WP8.

Hoping to get a 920 tomorrow- I had a pre-order in with BB and they screwed it all up so I'm just going to swing by the ATT store before work and see what's good. They're showing inventory online already but they won't sell them today, at least the one by me.

[Akash.B]

Talked to a few ATT stores. Some flat out refused to sell it without extending the contract. Luckily I found one that will so I'll be picking one up! They all confirmed that it will come with a free wireless charger

[b166er]

I heard a lot of back and forth about the free charger. I see on the ATT site that they will throw one in free, but then you have to sign a new contract and they have to ship the phone. I wonder if I just walk in to a store tomorrow if they will give me a charger. I'm half considering buying it contract-free and just swapping out with my one line- I can't decide if adding a line makes sense or not.