Samsung's newest phone is selling more than Apple's old phone? INCREDIBLE NEWS!!
Well their cycles aren't inline so you will always kinda have to do that bc you can't compare the iPhone5 to the S3 either by that logic
Samsung's newest phone is selling more than Apple's old phone? INCREDIBLE NEWS!!
right because retailers seem to love stockpiling units of unsold S3 on their shelves.
it's probably a strange fetish.
Get a Nexus phone. They're better anyways.
You might want to read this to get a CLUE
For example, in December 2010, the first quarter Samsungs tablet launched, it announced it had sold 1 million units worldwide. According to court documents AllThingsD and CNET published yesterday, Samsung sold 262,000 in the U.S. Back in December 2010, it was reported that 100,000 Tabs were sold in Samsungs home market in South Korea. But even at the time we wondered where the rest of the 900,000 sales were going. If 262,000 were in the U.S., that leaves more than 600,000 sales unaccounted for. And if they werent selling in the U.S., the worlds largest tablet market, well, where did they go?
The discrepancy in numbers occurs again in the second quarter of 2012. A research report from IDC last week showed Samsung sold 2.3 million Galaxy Tabs worldwide. The court documents show that in the U.S., between April and June, Samsung sold 37,000 units. (Yes, there was an injunction issued on sales of the Tab 10.1, but it wasnt until the very end of the quarter.)
Is it possible that a tablet thats not selling well in the U.S. is thriving and selling millions outside the country? Sure. But the more likely explanation boils down to the problem with reporting numbers of products shipped versus sold. It comes up over and over again. Does selling to a retailer count as sold if the product sits on a shelf in a store instead of in the hands of a customer?
since they hate stockpiling units on shelves, they will apply heavy discounts to clear their shelves. now those numbers are actual sales but anyone can be #1 if you give your product away so that's not a real number either.
Some claim they've had bad experiences but never get specific. That's often the sign of a story teller just randomly bashing, to justify their preference for another brand.
My iPhone 4S has been the best iPhone for me, to date. My iPhone 5 sits on the shelf, it's uninteresting & too buggy. I'm maintaining a positive outlook that Apple will make the next iPhone reflect their very best efforts. I've been an Apple user for too long to believe the iP5 is anything else but a placeholder.
"Shipped" doesn't equal "Sold". I can walk into any carrier and buy a Galaxy SIII. Not so with the iPhone. Apple sells them as fast as they can make them.
Apple reports how many devices that they actually SELL to the end user.
Samsung (and others) keep reporting what they SHIP not what was actually SOLD to the end user Why? This skews public perception into thinking that their products are in much higher demand than they actually are.
MacRumors knows this. Link bait.
"Shipped" doesn't equal "Sold". I can walk into any carrier and buy a Galaxy SIII. Not so with the iPhone. Apple sells them as fast as they can make them.
Apple reports how many devices that they actually SELL to the end user.
Samsung (and others) keep reporting what they SHIP not what was actually SOLD to the end user Why? This skews public perception into thinking that their products are in much higher demand than they actually are.
MacRumors knows this. Link bait.
So Galaxy S III isn't selling because the HP touchpad didn't sell because the GalaxyTab didn't sell well.
Only on MacRumors would we see such ******* crazy reasoning.
I salute you (whilst awaiting my Galaxy S III firesale). I'ts coming soon right?
EDIT: How long until ET on the Atari 2600 is bought into this argument?
Using the (flawed) Apple-haters' logic, all these people flocking to the Samsung Galaxy S III are one or more of the following:
- Sheeple;
- Drones;
- Stupid people easily fooled by marketing;
- Kool-Aid drinkers.
It is sad that a company can steal, copy, practically counterfeit another's supposedly patented, protected ideas.
That the court system is so slow to respond and consumers have such poor memory that after a few years delay folks think the way Apple did it is the only way it could have been done.
Sad that the court systems are ineffective at stopping such a mimicking company.
Sad that such an unethical company is so effective at manipulating public opinion to make itself look like the victim while stealing every idea Apple has.
Sad that folks don't notice the massive advertising campaign waged and its effectiveness at changing public opinion. Many Apple "news" articles bracketed with Galaxy S3 ads.
Sad that particularly folks in the US are so encouraging of a company who's claim to fame is dirty cheap development and manufacturing. Lets all root for the overseas low wage company that copies Apple's designs. That will somehow be good for everyone long term. Apple iPhone 5 sales alone were expected to materially affect US GDP. The US technology leadership will wane. NASDAQ was being held up by Apple.
I think all the anti-Apple talk is being effective and will curtail demand for Apple products. Can't wait for Samsung to develop their own operating system for phones, tablets and even PCs. Can't wait to buy my silver painted plastic MacBooksung.
You missed the point that in Q3 SGSIII sold more than iPhone 4S (iPhone 5 sales just started in Q3 and they were not significant). Are you going to argue that you could not buy iPhone 4S in Q3?
"Shipped" doesn't equal "Sold". I can walk into any carrier and buy a Galaxy SIII. Not so with the iPhone. Apple sells them as fast as they can make them.
Apple reports how many devices that they actually SELL to the end user.
Samsung (and others) keep reporting what they SHIP not what was actually SOLD to the end user Why? This skews public perception into thinking that their products are in much higher demand than they actually are.
MacRumors knows this. Link bait.
I think he was using that as a demonstrable example of items shipped vs. sold. As such, his reasoning is sound..
FWIW, I think the SIII is great. I loove the huge screen, but I really like iOS as a platform and I don't find Android quite as smooth (but it's getting there) and with a bit of a learning curve, comparatively speaking.
Regardless, I find it an excellent alternative for those not married to Apple's ecosystem.
You missed the point that in Q3 the S3 was estimated to have shipped more than the iPhone 4S.
It is sad that a company can steal, copy, practically counterfeit another's supposedly patented, protected ideas.
That the court system is so slow to respond and consumers have such poor memory that after a few years delay folks think the way Apple did it is the only way it could have been done.
Sad that the court systems are ineffective at stopping such a mimicking company.
Sad that such an unethical company is so effective at manipulating public opinion to make itself look like the victim while stealing every idea Apple has.
Sad that folks don't notice the massive advertising campaign waged and its effectiveness at changing public opinion. Many Apple "news" articles bracketed with Galaxy S3 ads.
Sad that particularly folks in the US are so encouraging of a company who's claim to fame is dirty cheap development and manufacturing. Lets all root for the overseas low wage company that copies Apple's designs. That will somehow be good for everyone long term. Apple iPhone 5 sales alone were expected to materially affect US GDP. The US technology leadership will wane. NASDAQ was being held up by Apple.
I think all the anti-Apple talk is being effective and will curtail demand for Apple products. Can't wait for Samsung to develop their own operating system for phones, tablets and even PCs. Can't wait to buy my silver painted plastic MacBooksung.
Fact is the Samsung is a better phone. It just doesn't have the mystique!
I think he was using that as a demonstrable example of items shipped vs. sold. As such, his reasoning is sound..
FWIW, I think the SIII is great. I loove the huge screen, but I really like iOS as a platform and I don't find Android quite as smooth (but it's getting there) and with a bit of a learning curve, comparatively speaking.
Regardless, I find it an excellent alternative for those not married to Apple's ecosystem.
It is sad that a company can steal, copy, practically counterfeit another's supposedly patented, protected ideas.
That the court system is so slow to respond and consumers have such poor memory that after a few years delay folks think the way Apple did it is the only way it could have been done.
Sad that the court systems are ineffective at stopping such a mimicking company.
Sad that such an unethical company is so effective at manipulating public opinion to make itself look like the victim while stealing every idea Apple has.
Sad that folks don't notice the massive advertising campaign waged and its effectiveness at changing public opinion. Many Apple "news" articles bracketed with Galaxy S3 ads.
Sad that particularly folks in the US are so encouraging of a company who's claim to fame is dirty cheap development and manufacturing. Lets all root for the overseas low wage company that copies Apple's designs. That will somehow be good for everyone long term. Apple iPhone 5 sales alone were expected to materially affect US GDP. The US technology leadership will wane. NASDAQ was being held up by Apple.
I think all the anti-Apple talk is being effective and will curtail demand for Apple products. Can't wait for Samsung to develop their own operating system for phones, tablets and even PCs. Can't wait to buy my silver painted plastic MacBooksung.
But the report compared shipped numbers for both Apple and Samsung. Not all iPhones are sold by Apple directly. They ship a lot of their products to WalMart, Target etc. too and this is the only number that really makes sense. The number of phones directly sold by Apple would be much smaller.
Do you have better estimates? Anybody else does?
Are trying to say that there is a conspiracy theory?
Why do you think AAPL stock is falling like a rock?
Buy Korean!