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samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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iTunes and Amazon are both stores.

The Amazon company owns Amazon store.
The Apple company owns the iTunes store.

I'm talking about the stores, you can't just cherry-pick stuff from the left and the right and mix them together. Pick a side.



You're the one who indicated that what a store is named tells you what they're supposed to sell.

I'm simply asking, does that apply to all stores? (Target?) If not, why not? Why just iTunes?



Well, explain to me why Amazon and Target are allowed to sell anything, but iTunes is only allowed to sell Tunes.

Once I have a good answer to that question I'll take back my silly statement.

Amazon has never sold "amazonian" items. It started off selling books, no? Not remotely related. So there was never a connection. ETA In fact the logo implies that they sell everything from A to Z. An intentional graphic reference.

Target - never sold targets. Always sold lots of items.

iTunes - was branded because it sold music. It no longer sells just music.

Even Apple changed its name. Remember when it was called Apple Computers. Why did they change? Because the focus of the company wasn't only on Computers.

iTunes is no longer focused on just music.
 

mrgraff

macrumors 65816
Apr 18, 2010
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Albuquerque
In 5 years, it'll be "Please hold still while I scan your retinas"...
It will probably get to the point that you will be scanned as you walk into the store. You could then grab whatever you want, and provided you have sufficient funds, you could walk out with your purchases with your account already debited.
 

Small White Car

macrumors G4
Aug 29, 2006
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Washington DC
Even Apple changed its name. Remember when it was called Apple Computers. Why did they change? Because the focus of the company wasn't only on Computers.

So a company named 'Apple' can sell computers without apples in them, and that's ok.

But a store names 'iTunes' can't sell things that don't have tunes in them.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here. I'm not sure why you think one of these is confusing and the other isn't (they sound the same to me), but that's how you see it, I guess.
 

samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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So a company named 'Apple' can sell computers without apples in them, and that's ok.

But a store names 'iTunes' can't sell things that don't have tunes in them.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here. I'm not sure why you think one of these is confusing and the other isn't, but that's how you see it, I guess.

I never said it was confusing. I said the name was limited/limiting.

And the fact that you can't see the difference between iTunes vs every other example is funny to me.

But you keep on enjoying the iTunes name. I doubt they would change it anyway.
 

ck2875

macrumors 65816
Mar 25, 2009
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So a company named 'Apple' can sell computers without apples in them, and that's ok.

But a store names 'iTunes' can't sell things that don't have tunes in them.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here. I'm not sure why you think one of these is confusing and the other isn't (they sound the same to me), but that's how you see it, I guess.

I think you're missing his point.
 

mentaluproar

macrumors 68000
May 25, 2010
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Ohio, USA
I'm surprised that you can't gift a specific song, movie or App - rather than a specific amount. Maybe that will be down the pike. Or maybe Apple doesn't want to give up a % of the revenue of people doing that via iTunes.

You can already do that as long as you know the other person's email address. I've used it with friends and family members before. Pretty handy.
 

samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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You mean by using your friends list rather than the email address? I see the appeal, but I can't see a clean way of doing that yet.

Well what I meant is - being on FB and gifting something specific to a FB friend.

Maybe I played something on spotify or whatever and it's on my FB feed. I click on that post and am able to gift that song to you (for example).

Or maybe I made a FB post about an App or Movie or Book and you asked whether or not I would recommend it. I could then gift it to you via FB.

Just two examples/use cases.
 

wolfshades

macrumors 6502
Nov 1, 2007
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Toronto, Ontario Canada
this is kind of cool. i think its mostly for those teen girls who just never leave facebook though

Nope. There's a generation out there now who mostly use Facebook for their online socializing. Email (apparently) is for the older generation. My kids are grown up and that's all they use.

This is therefore - I think - a pretty cool idea.
 

Pakaku

macrumors 68040
Aug 29, 2009
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Why do people act like the entire company only works on one thing at a time?

Every time there's news about something, people who don't like it inevitably make this kind of comment.

Apple has thousands of employees working on many different projects. Hardware engineers aren't taken away from the next MBP to litigate in court. iTunes developers are not dropping what they're working on to negotiate a partner ship with Facebook.

Apple, stop wasting your time on this and get back to the Mac Pros

;)
 

writingdevil

macrumors 6502
Feb 11, 2010
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I never said it was confusing. I said the name was limited/limiting.

And the fact that you can't see the difference between iTunes vs every other example is funny to me.

But you keep on enjoying the iTunes name. I doubt they would change it anyway.

Your posts seem very logical..and your comments ("But you keep on enjoying the iTunes name" and "The fact that you can't see the difference between iTunes vs every other example is funny to me") both remind me of my old maid aunt Adele, who drives her snippy logic into the ground daily.

As far as marketing and building a brand goes, logic doesn't win out at the end of the race.
From previous posts you might keep hanging on and on, but I'm out.

EDIT: i have been chastised by my gf for referring to my 'old maid aunt'. She said it sounded sexist and also a slam at the poster, which it was not, because my aunt is that way, but I hereby withdraw my aunt reference and change it to my retired high school teacher uncle. (OK, sweetie?)
 
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coolfactor

macrumors 604
Jul 29, 2002
7,062
9,730
Vancouver, BC
Apple, stop wasting your time on this and get back to the Mac Pros

;)

There's so much power packed into current Macs, no wonder they are taking their time with a new Mac Pro. If only they would make Xgrid a standard feature, homes and businesses with multiple Macs could share the computing power across several machines completely behind the scenes. That would be wicked.

----------

People still log in to Facebook?

Addiction, not necessity.
 

lunaoso

macrumors 65816
Sep 22, 2012
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Boston, MA
A) I hope not
B) They need to change the name of iTunes. Long overdue, no? They sell books, movies, apps, etc. iTunes is limiting.

We should change the iPhone to be called the iMediaphonetextwebapploaderioscameraebookreader while we're at it.
 

coolfactor

macrumors 604
Jul 29, 2002
7,062
9,730
Vancouver, BC
A) I hope not
B) They need to change the name of iTunes. Long overdue, no? They sell books, movies, apps, etc. iTunes is limiting.

Broaden your mind... iTunes - the place where you "tune" into something - a song, a movie, a TV show, an app, a book. The definition of "tune" isn't limited to music. Do you remember "TV tuners"? haha
 

you people smh

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Oct 20, 2011
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I think we're 5 years out from store clerks asking "Visa, Mastercard, or iTunes?"

In all 3 cases you'll make the transaction using an app on your phone, but my point is that Apple will soon be seen equally as 'Device Maker,' 'Media Seller,' and 'Credit Card Company.'

Other than the wholly overlooked fact that iTunes is linked to a "visa or mastercard"... Highly doubt that any retailer will want to pay apple a premium on top of the premium they are already paying to the card companies.
 
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