[Confirmed] Verizon Unlimited Loophole - Page 45

topherg · Nov 26, 2012, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostonsox

hey topherg, were you able to successfully do what you were planning to? I am in a similar situation as yours. 2 lines on Family plan:
1. iPhone 4 UDP upgrade available
2. iPhone 4S 2GB upgrade 12/13
I want to transfer upgrade from line 1 to 2, order iPhone 5 on line 2 and just use it there. Unlike others I am not planning to switch it back to line 1. Also, I don't care what happens to eligibility but I want to ensure I keep UDP on line 1.
I have read this whole thread and saw ajm22 and PhoenixMac were able to do it. However, they transferred the upgrade to a dumbphone but mine is a smartphone.
I called 4 times and got conflicting answers about losing UDP.
Has anyone else tried this? What was the result?

Thanks!

Bostonsox, My note 2 hasn't shipped yet so I cannot confirm just yet if it worked. On the website it walked me through picking a device and plan on the line that I transferred my upgrade to. However, the email I received after the order was placed shows all the changes I made where applied to my unlimited line rather than the line I transferred the upgrade to..... I'm starting to get worried that my unlimited could be in jeopardy.

Jtludwig · Nov 26, 2012, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by topherg

Bostonsox, My note 2 hasn't shipped yet so I cannot confirm just yet if it worked. On the website it walked me through picking a device and plan on the line that I transferred my upgrade to. However, the email I received after the order was placed shows all the changes I made where applied to my unlimited line rather than the line I transferred the upgrade to..... I'm starting to get worried that my unlimited could be in jeopardy.

Calm down. It's the same thing that's happened to everyone.

topherg · Nov 26, 2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jtludwig

Calm down. It's the same thing that's happened to everyone.

lol! Thank you!! I'll report back come the 29th.

bostonsox · Nov 26, 2012, 11:04 AM

That's interesting. In my confirmation email, the reference was to the recipient line and not the donor line. In my verizon account, it shows an extension of contract to the donor line which still appears to have unlimited data.
I haven't received my phone yet, so waiting to see what happens after activation.

topherg · Nov 26, 2012, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostonsox

That's interesting. In my confirmation email, the reference was to the recipient line and not the donor line. In my verizon account, it shows an extension of contract to the donor line which still appears to have unlimited data.
I haven't received my phone yet, so waiting to see what happens after activation.

Damn..... Now I'm thinking I should cancel.

djdanny · Nov 26, 2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by topherg

Damn..... Now I'm thinking I should cancel.

Don't worry mine was like that too. I still have unlimited.

Jtludwig · Nov 26, 2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by topherg

Damn..... Now I'm thinking I should cancel.

Relax. You'll be fine. Why you actually go to activate the phone you have to reverify any plan changes anyways so you can always cancel then if you get scared.

coolkev · Nov 28, 2012, 01:21 AM

I want to do the same thing but I was told as soon as the unlimited line has passed on the upgrade to another line and new phone is activated, Verizon will automatically drop you from the unlimited to the 2 GB?? not sure what to do...

topherg · Nov 28, 2012, 03:33 AM

Didn't cancel my order, my note2 is on the way. I know I mentioned that on my order confirmation email it showed that changes where made to my donor line. On my shipping email it now shows the recipient line. I'll be receiving my phone on the 29th. I'll post back with what happens to my unlimited plan.

coolkev · Nov 28, 2012, 03:03 PM

THX, topherg I will wait for ur response

fairladyz0r · Nov 28, 2012, 03:32 PM

I currently have a Family Plan with 3 Lines. Contract doesn't expire for another 10 Months.

Now my question is, Is it possible for me to add a new line to my current Family Plan to purchase a phone in discounted price and use a dumbphone on this new line and cancel data plan?

Will adding a new line to my existing Family Plan allow them to take away my unlimited data?

Thank you.

BFizzzle · Nov 28, 2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyz0r

I currently have a Family Plan with 3 Lines. Contract doesn't expire for another 10 Months.

Now my question is, Is it possible for me to add a new line to my current Family Plan to purchase a phone in discounted price and use a dumbphone on this new line and cancel data plan?

Will adding a new line to my existing Family Plan allow them to take away my unlimited data?

Thank you.

yes you can.. no it wont take away your UDP

ineoxs · Nov 29, 2012, 04:08 PM

Anybody here upgraded to iPhone5 had Talk & Text Plus Data $20 Discounts on the account? Wanted to see if the discount was removed after iPhone5 was added to your account or it's still there.

Jtludwig · Nov 29, 2012, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ineoxs

Anybody here upgraded to iPhone5 had Talk & Text Plus Data $20 Discounts on the account? Wanted to see if the discount was removed after iPhone5 was added to your account or it's still there.

Yes it's still there. I thought u returned your phone like a month ago or something?

ineoxs · Nov 29, 2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jtludwig

Yes it's still there. I thought u returned your phone like a month ago or something?

Yea, I returned it since reps were telling me the discount might come off too. I didn't want to lose $9 data plan. Planning to order now and give it a try since most of the folks are successful at keeping their UDP plus the $20 off discount.

bostonsox · Nov 29, 2012, 10:16 PM

So the experiment is over. I still have unlimited data !!! For others' benefit, here are the steps I took:

1. Transferred upgrade from line 1 (iPhone4) with UDP to line 2 with 2GB data (4S)
2. Ordered iPhone 5 using verizon website for line 2
3. After receiving the device, I activated online without opening the box. I then monitored my unlimited data on line 1 for a day.
4. When all looked good, I opened the iphone 5 and activated it.
5. I then switched my iPhone 4S (which got free from line 2) and activated on line 1 via verizon website.

The unlimited data survived!

topherg · Nov 30, 2012, 03:17 AM

Hey guys. I too can confirm that the upgrade transfer WORKS!!!! Recieved my note 2 stuck my 4g sim in it from my unlimited line and voilà! I'll still keep an eye on my plan to see if anything changes but as of now unlimited is still there! I didbt use the sim that came with the phone as it might trigger the unlimited drop.

raf66 · Nov 30, 2012, 12:07 PM

I didn't read all the posts in this thread, so my confirmed "loophole" for unlimited data with Verizon may have already been discussed at length.

My wife and I and both our kids are on VZW. The kids and I have smartphones and we were on the unlimited data plan prior to it fazing out. My wife has an old flip phone that she refuses to give up so she has no data plan.

When I upgraded to the iP5 in September I used my son's upgrade (as he and my daughter had used his parents' upgrades previously

). When the phone was delivered on launch day I called VZW to get everything set up. Obviously the iP5 was tied to my son's phone #, so I'm assuming when the VZW rep activated it initially she did so on his line as she required me to shut his phone off first.

She then explained that Apple was requiring a 24 hr. hold before a phone that was purchased on an upgrade-eligible line and then transferred to another account member's line could be officially activated on the appropriate line. The iPhone then became inoperable (at least being able to use it on the mobile network), and my son and I resumed using our other phones until the following morning, when my shiny new iP5 was officially activated on my line.

Luckily I retained my unlimited plan. This was confirmed by VZW by telephone on two separate occasions and as evidenced by my monthly statements since that time. I believe my son lost his unlimited plan, though neither he nor I really care because he doesn't use a bunch of data on a monthly basis.

I have no idea how many more upgrades/transfers we can do in the future before the unlimited plan goes by-by, but this is how it worked for our family. Frankly I'm happy that I didn't lose unlimited because my normal monthly data usage (at least according to VZW) went from averaging 600 MB/mo. prior to the iP5 to 3 GB/mo. since. I don't know if I'm using 5 times more data per month now that I have the iP5, or if my new 4G LTE pocket computer/phone is just simply a natural data hog unrelated to anything I'm necessarily doing. I'm guessing it's a combination of the two. However, since I'm still unlimited that's one less thing I have to fret about.

steve dave · Nov 30, 2012, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topherg

Hey guys. I too can confirm that the upgrade transfer WORKS!!!! Recieved my note 2 stuck my 4g sim in it from my unlimited line and voilà! I'll still keep an eye on my plan to see if anything changes but as of now unlimited is still there! I didbt use the sim that came with the phone as it might trigger the unlimited drop.

Does the note 2 have a micro or nano sim? I want to do this with my iphone 5 sim but I think the note uses micro.

BFizzzle · Nov 30, 2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by steve dave

Does the note 2 have a micro or nano sim? I want to do this with my iphone 5 sim but I think the note uses micro.

im fairly certain it uses micro.. i think the ip5 is the only one using nano right now.

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Originally Posted by raf66

I didn't read all the posts in this thread, so my confirmed "loophole" for unlimited data with Verizon may have already been discussed at length.

My wife and I and both our kids are on VZW. The kids and I have smartphones and we were on the unlimited data plan prior to it fazing out. My wife has an old flip phone that she refuses to give up so she has no data plan.

When I upgraded to the iP5 in September I used my son's upgrade (as he and my daughter had used his parents' upgrades previously

). When the phone was delivered on launch day I called VZW to get everything set up. Obviously the iP5 was tied to my son's phone #, so I'm assuming when the VZW rep activated it initially she did so on his line as she required me to shut his phone off first.

She then explained that Apple was requiring a 24 hr. hold before a phone that was purchased on an upgrade-eligible line and then transferred to another account member's line could be officially activated on the appropriate line. The iPhone then became inoperable (at least being able to use it on the mobile network), and my son and I resumed using our other phones until the following morning, when my shiny new iP5 was officially activated on my line.

Luckily I retained my unlimited plan. This was confirmed by VZW by telephone on two separate occasions and as evidenced by my monthly statements since that time. I believe my son lost his unlimited plan, though neither he nor I really care because he doesn't use a bunch of data on a monthly basis.

I have no idea how many more upgrades/transfers we can do in the future before the unlimited plan goes by-by, but this is how it worked for our family. Frankly I'm happy that I didn't lose unlimited because my normal monthly data usage (at least according to VZW) went from averaging 600 MB/mo. prior to the iP5 to 3 GB/mo. since. I don't know if I'm using 5 times more data per month now that I have the iP5, or if my new 4G LTE pocket computer/phone is just simply a natural data hog unrelated to anything I'm necessarily doing. I'm guessing it's a combination of the two. However, since I'm still unlimited that's one less thing I have to fret about.

"he then explained that Apple was requiring a 24 hr. hold before a phone that was purchased on an upgrade-eligible line and then transferred to another account member's line could be officially activated on the appropriate line. "

LOL classic rep. its just the sim needs 24 hours to switch from one esn..to another. on launch day i just asked a rep at apple to get me another sim.. called vzw gave them the new sim # and it worked.

so fyi going fwd in the future (great scott!) just ask for an extra sim.. after you activate it do the swap online/call rep give them the esn or imei # then the new sim #

raf66 · Nov 30, 2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BFizzzle

LOL classic rep. its just the sim needs 24 hours to switch from one esn..to another. on launch day i just asked a rep at apple to get me another sim.. called vzw gave them the new sim # and it worked.

so fyi going fwd in the future (great scott!) just ask for an extra sim.. after you activate it do the swap online/call rep give them the esn or imei # then the new sim #

Thanks BFizzzle. I didn't know that.

BFizzzle · Nov 30, 2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by raf66

Thanks BFizzzle. I didn't know that.

for sure hommie. glad you got your true unlimited LTE

feels great right?

jasko · Nov 30, 2012, 05:09 PM

Hey guys. Got my dad's upgrade coming up on Sunday (12/02/12). We're all under unlimited data right now. I plan on using his upgrade in hopes of doing this thread. Just wanted to clarify how to do this so I don't mess anything up. Is this is what I should do?

1.) Go online and request to update my dad's phone number to iPhone 5.
2.) Wait until I get phone in the mail.
3.) Once phone is received, activate it under my line.
4.) Once this is activated, power phone on and plug into iTunes?
5.) Call Verizon to cancel data plan on my dad's line?
6.) Enjoy iPhone 5 on my line with unlimited data? (dad's data will be at 2GB)

Did I miss any steps here?

Thanks again.

tyler.frost92 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:41 PM

Hopefully someone can help me out here. Im doin this same process but with an s3. I'm taking my moms upgrade and transferring the s3 to my uld line. Only question is, once I deactivated the s3 from her line and activate it to my line will I still be able to get insurance on the device?

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5

steelcurtain11 · Nov 30, 2012, 11:43 PM

I'm looking to split my family plan with another person and go onto my own..

But I plan on upgrading my phone from Walmart as there's a promo for a free $100 giftcard. But I remember reading somewhere a few years ago, that if you alter your plan in some way within a certain number of months after you upgrade from Walmart/Amazon/etc then they charge you the full price of the phone. (Is that still true?)

Because I was wondering if it'd be best to split lines now and go on my own, then upgrade? Hoping that it doesn't screw over my data or upgrade status.

Or upgrade from Walmart, then split. Hoping that I don't get charged $700ish.

Anyone hear of something like this?

Nov 28, 2012, 01:21 AM	#1108
coolkev macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	confused I want to do the same thing but I was told as soon as the unlimited line has passed on the upgrade to another line and new phone is activated, Verizon will automatically drop you from the unlimited to the 2 GB?? not sure what to do...
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Nov 30, 2012, 12:07 PM	#1118
raf66 macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, Ohio	I didn't read all the posts in this thread, so my confirmed "loophole" for unlimited data with Verizon may have already been discussed at length. My wife and I and both our kids are on VZW. The kids and I have smartphones and we were on the unlimited data plan prior to it fazing out. My wife has an old flip phone that she refuses to give up so she has no data plan. When I upgraded to the iP5 in September I used my son's upgrade (as he and my daughter had used his parents' upgrades previously). When the phone was delivered on launch day I called VZW to get everything set up. Obviously the iP5 was tied to my son's phone #, so I'm assuming when the VZW rep activated it initially she did so on his line as she required me to shut his phone off first. She then explained that Apple was requiring a 24 hr. hold before a phone that was purchased on an upgrade-eligible line and then transferred to another account member's line could be officially activated on the appropriate line. The iPhone then became inoperable (at least being able to use it on the mobile network), and my son and I resumed using our other phones until the following morning, when my shiny new iP5 was officially activated on my line. Luckily I retained my unlimited plan. This was confirmed by VZW by telephone on two separate occasions and as evidenced by my monthly statements since that time. I believe my son lost his unlimited plan, though neither he nor I really care because he doesn't use a bunch of data on a monthly basis. I have no idea how many more upgrades/transfers we can do in the future before the unlimited plan goes by-by, but this is how it worked for our family. Frankly I'm happy that I didn't lose unlimited because my normal monthly data usage (at least according to VZW) went from averaging 600 MB/mo. prior to the iP5 to 3 GB/mo. since. I don't know if I'm using 5 times more data per month now that I have the iP5, or if my new 4G LTE pocket computer/phone is just simply a natural data hog unrelated to anything I'm necessarily doing. I'm guessing it's a combination of the two. However, since I'm still unlimited that's one less thing I have to fret about. __________________ 20" Aluminum iMac with Mountain Lion, 2.66 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 32gb black/slate iPhone 5
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Nov 30, 2012, 05:09 PM	#1123
jasko macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2006	Hey guys. Got my dad's upgrade coming up on Sunday (12/02/12). We're all under unlimited data right now. I plan on using his upgrade in hopes of doing this thread. Just wanted to clarify how to do this so I don't mess anything up. Is this is what I should do? 1.) Go online and request to update my dad's phone number to iPhone 5. 2.) Wait until I get phone in the mail. 3.) Once phone is received, activate it under my line. 4.) Once this is activated, power phone on and plug into iTunes? 5.) Call Verizon to cancel data plan on my dad's line? 6.) Enjoy iPhone 5 on my line with unlimited data? (dad's data will be at 2GB) Did I miss any steps here? Thanks again. __________________
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Nov 30, 2012, 05:41 PM	#1124
tyler.frost92 macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Leonard, Michigan	Hopefully someone can help me out here. Im doin this same process but with an s3. I'm taking my moms upgrade and transferring the s3 to my uld line. Only question is, once I deactivated the s3 from her line and activate it to my line will I still be able to get insurance on the device? Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5 __________________ Late 2011 MBP 13 2.4 i5 8GB 1333MHz Crucial Ram OS X 10.8.2
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Nov 26, 2012, 11:04 AM	#1104
bostonsox macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	That's interesting. In my confirmation email, the reference was to the recipient line and not the donor line. In my verizon account, it shows an extension of contract to the donor line which still appears to have unlimited data. I haven't received my phone yet, so waiting to see what happens after activation.
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Nov 28, 2012, 03:33 AM	#1109
topherg macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: soCal	Didn't cancel my order, my note2 is on the way. I know I mentioned that on my order confirmation email it showed that changes where made to my donor line. On my shipping email it now shows the recipient line. I'll be receiving my phone on the 29th. I'll post back with what happens to my unlimited plan.
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Nov 28, 2012, 03:03 PM	#1110
coolkev macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	THX, topherg I will wait for ur response
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Nov 28, 2012, 03:32 PM	#1111
fairladyz0r macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2008	I currently have a Family Plan with 3 Lines. Contract doesn't expire for another 10 Months. Now my question is, Is it possible for me to add a new line to my current Family Plan to purchase a phone in discounted price and use a dumbphone on this new line and cancel data plan? Will adding a new line to my existing Family Plan allow them to take away my unlimited data? Thank you.
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Nov 29, 2012, 04:08 PM	#1113
ineoxs macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2012	Anybody here upgraded to iPhone5 had Talk & Text Plus Data $20 Discounts on the account? Wanted to see if the discount was removed after iPhone5 was added to your account or it's still there.
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Nov 29, 2012, 10:16 PM	#1116
bostonsox macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	So the experiment is over. I still have unlimited data !!! For others' benefit, here are the steps I took: 1. Transferred upgrade from line 1 (iPhone4) with UDP to line 2 with 2GB data (4S) 2. Ordered iPhone 5 using verizon website for line 2 3. After receiving the device, I activated online without opening the box. I then monitored my unlimited data on line 1 for a day. 4. When all looked good, I opened the iphone 5 and activated it. 5. I then switched my iPhone 4S (which got free from line 2) and activated on line 1 via verizon website. The unlimited data survived!
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Nov 30, 2012, 03:17 AM	#1117
topherg macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: soCal	Hey guys. I too can confirm that the upgrade transfer WORKS!!!! Recieved my note 2 stuck my 4g sim in it from my unlimited line and voilà! I'll still keep an eye on my plan to see if anything changes but as of now unlimited is still there! I didbt use the sim that came with the phone as it might trigger the unlimited drop.
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Nov 30, 2012, 11:43 PM	#1125
steelcurtain11 macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2011	I'm looking to split my family plan with another person and go onto my own.. But I plan on upgrading my phone from Walmart as there's a promo for a free $100 giftcard. But I remember reading somewhere a few years ago, that if you alter your plan in some way within a certain number of months after you upgrade from Walmart/Amazon/etc then they charge you the full price of the phone. (Is that still true?) Because I was wondering if it'd be best to split lines now and go on my own, then upgrade? Hoping that it doesn't screw over my data or upgrade status. Or upgrade from Walmart, then split. Hoping that I don't get charged $700ish. Anyone hear of something like this?
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