New iMac and iPad Mini to Be in Short Supply Until 2013 - Page 2

chas0001 · Nov 28, 2012, 03:16 AM

It will be interesting to see who else will be out the door.

Cavepainter · Nov 28, 2012, 03:18 AM

I am exactly the intended market for this computer (the high-end 27" at least). However, the more I read about this new imac, I think I'm gonna stick with my 2.93 i7 for at least another year or so. If Apple had ditched the very carefully thought-out up-sell strategies that dictate all the options of what we can and can't get (and how much it all costs) and just gave us a very powerful, flexible all-in-one imac for a (generally) competitive price, I would buy it the day it was available.

I wonder how many people that requested things for the next imac asked for the edges of their next desktop computer to be thinner?

This is a company that is no longer interested in what any professional user wants or needs. Looking at it from a businessman's standpoint, Apple wants to take as much money as possible, in any way it can think of, from my small company. I have been a vocal fan and buyer of numerous Apple computers for well over 15 years. However, after the last few years of anemic Mac Pro "updates" and now this Imac, I'm gonna pass. Mac Pro models are a terrible bargain, and the new Imac seems to be gradually moving in the same direction. New Imac? No thanks, Apple.

luffytubby · Nov 28, 2012, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mohsy90

Apple needs to get their **** together!

What they need to do is to continue to have a high quality standard. Many companies wouldn't have given a ****** about this. They would have sold you this product with a crappy display and fixed it in the next ideration.

Then people would go on forums and cry and people would tell them "Lol, early adopter QQ more".

The fact is that Apple is losing money on retaining quality. I think that is a noble quality. The quality of their products is what sets them apart. Many of us want to wait for something good, that will be last. If I wanted something fast and now I would have bought something from Dell or HP.

yocko · Nov 28, 2012, 03:27 AM

Haters; get a vaio. In stock everywhere

robogobo · Nov 28, 2012, 03:36 AM

Sure makes for a nice grey market! I already bought a few ipad minis and resold them on eBay for $200 profit. Thanks apple!

Jibbajabba · Nov 28, 2012, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Truffy

...except it's not, is it?

Not at all .. People should be used to that by now - Either queue for days or pay overpriced ones on eBay ..

imacanon · Nov 28, 2012, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by zombierunner

This is really Appalling. You have to pay through your nose and wait for ages to get hold of a product with inferior and outdated internals.

Why do wanna buy it then.. no one is forcing you

Broseidon · Nov 28, 2012, 04:06 AM

Can't help but laugh at all the people complaining about the new iMac.

Seriously, you whining bunch of losers.

It's a computer. No-one is forcing you to buy it. Get over it.

Ventilatedbrain · 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by zombierunner

This is really Appalling. You have to pay through your nose and wait for ages to get hold of a product with inferior and outdated internals.

why would you buy it then ??? On a different note ..I just got my iPad Mini and it kicks ass.. You have to try it ... I nearly got the nexus 7 but when I held both in my hands ... Nexus felt washed out .. Just my 0.2$

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohsy90

Apple needs to get their **** together!

Seriously ..don't you feel like nag just saying that ???

Quote:

Originally Posted by topmounter

I thought Tim Cook was supposed to be a supply-chain guru

Ladies and gentlemen .. Our candidate for CEO ..highly recommended .. Seriously though ... I keep jumping forums just cause of the nagging ...here's a tip.. If you don't like it...WALK AWAY

maxira · Nov 28, 2012, 04:09 AM

I hope it is not so! it is strange that this news comes out after announcing, finally, the iMac and their expedition, perhaps this to cover them in the event of long delays for shipments! when the costs are so high, patience and technology do not get along.
I'm an Apple user for many years

elvetio · Nov 28, 2012, 04:18 AM

this is your fault! they are doing this because if they start producing too early, the parts are leaked... doubling down on secrecy.. here you have it

macs4nw · Nov 28, 2012, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by topmounter

I thought Tim Cook was supposed to be a supply-chain guru

He's probably too busy running the company; maybe he needs to get an expert supply-chain guru to look after that side of the business, just like he did, when Steve was at the helm.

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Originally Posted by Steve121178

It's not life or death. People just need to be patient.

Agreed; good things can't be rushed.

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Originally Posted by skkyfall

.....Apple, the multibillion dollar company, does not reserve enough supply for expected sales?

It was apparently a quality control issue with the panels, and we could look at it another way and commend APPLE for not being wiling to compromise on the quality of their products, even if it meant fewer sales.

peterdevries · 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by marc11

Well to me it means, having the ability and the expectation to deliver an action and failing to do so. So in this case, Apple has the ability to delivery a product and we expect them to meet those expectations, but failed to do so. IE they dropped the ball.

If this is wrong, rather than just saying I am wrong, why not enlighten us all with your knowlege?

Just like other consumer electronics companies Apple needs to introduce new and updated products regularly. By itself this is not a problem. But there is a limited world capacity for the production of electronics components, and Apple commands a big part of that capacity already. The speed at which Apple is increasing its market size globally and the sudden surge of demand after a new product introduction puts a tremendous strain on their claimed capacity.

It’s a catch 22 situation: Apple cannot wait to announce the new products as you can see from the drop in demand before the introduction of a new iPhone (they would lose market share and risk a drop in revenue). In addition it is not able to produce enough of the product at launch to satisfy all demand.

There are many people just claiming that Apple should produce more of their products, but currently all production capacity is claimed and the building of a new factory is not done in a few weeks, nor is it without risks. Furthermore no-one is able to accurately predict the demand for Apple devices, as the divergence between the iPhone 5 predictions and actual sales numbers show.

Tl;dr: it’s not so simple to “just make more". Read the above..

Lancer · Nov 28, 2012, 04:28 AM

So if Friday is the day does that mean we here in Australia will see it Friday our time, a few hours before the rest of the world and the US?

Wordman · Nov 28, 2012, 04:36 AM

This'll be the 'beta testing' batch then.

Guinea pigs, please queue here. ;-)

thekev · Nov 28, 2012, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elvetio

this is your fault! they are doing this because if they start producing too early, the parts are leaked... doubling down on secrecy.. here you have it

Rumors leaked on this a long time ago including one about Apple having trouble with the new display process.

gto55 · 05:10 AM

maybe apple should consider buying Sharp

lizardofwoz · 05:16 AM

Delivery delays?

What a surprise.

I wonder how many Apple dealerships will go out of business because they have no iMac stock to sell, and look like being without stock until 2013.

Look on the bright side... it is not available but it is really, really thin.

iMac, insanely LATE

Rot'nApple · Nov 28, 2012, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bulge

They said in november which has 30 days. Very clear to me.

And Tim Cook e-mailed saying...

"Our pro customers are really important to us...don't worry as we're working on something really great for later next year.

Forbes now follows up with additional corroboration of both Mac Pro and iMac updates coming down the road, with the updates likely appearing next year. The information was provided directly by an Apple spokesperson.

An Apple spokesman just told me that new models and new designs of the Mac Pro, as well as the iMac desktop, are in the works and will likely be released in 2013. That confirms what New York Times columnist David Pogue said yesterday, citing an unnamed Apple executive, about Apple’s commitment to its desktop computers." - qoute from a Recent MacRumors posting you can find in archives...

So no worries people, Power Macs available December 31st, 2013! After all 2013 has 365 days in it. Very clear to me, too!
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G4DP · Nov 28, 2012, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveSparks

That is exactly what is happening. Apple is in the process of changing suppliers for all LCD panels. These issues had been resolved previously with Samsung but since they are divesting all business with Samsung they have to work with new suppliers to ramp up to meet needs.

Apple attempted to settle all the issue with Samsung so they could remain partners but that is not going to be possible since Samsung won't agree to a settlement, even when using binding arbitration.

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This is Tim changing suppliers. It would be worse if he was not a guru..

Are you serious? Apple had no intention of reaching an agreement with Samsung. They offered terms they knew Samsung could not agree too. There is no binding arbitration, what are you on?

As for Tim changing suppliers, they should have already had the excess supply in the system to allow such a large transition. You don't leave one supplier and then a day later think oh crap, better find a knew one. That would be pee poor management.

A small company you could understand there being problems, but not a company with over $100bn in the bank doing nothing.

If they were hoping for a holiday sales boost then they have fluffed it. People aren't going to want to wait 2 months for something Apple said you should you be able to buy in November, they will go elsewhere.

Mystic386 · Nov 28, 2012, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohsy90

Apple needs to get their **** together!

Yep, I agree. If they could learn to sell much lower volumes they wouldn't have a problem. Why can't they follow the lead of other manufacturers.

Of course it will lead to lower profits but at least they'd have their **** together!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by topmounter

I thought Tim Cook was supposed to be a supply-chain guru

Yep. But they moved him from that role.

Steve121178 · Nov 28, 2012, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombierunner

This is really Appalling. You have to pay through your nose and wait for ages to get hold of a product with inferior and outdated internals.

So buy something that meets your requirements & expectations instead.

Absrnd · 05:31 AM

So, after weeks of lots of people and sites, with so called "Apple connections", kept telling, it will be delayed.
and now that Apple proved them wrong, they had nothing to complain,

and now they go for the "in short supply" crap.

well to all those who took their thumb out of their ass, and said, what can we make up this time, to get more attention, well ******* you.

Reason077 · Nov 28, 2012, 05:24 AM

This is the most ridiculously long drawn out Mac product launch in years. Apple are usually pretty good at shipping products soon after announcement, but this iMac launch is ridiculous. Borderline vaporware.

Zzzzzzzz.

Wake me when the teardowns are up, please.

Mystic386 · Nov 28, 2012, 05:26 AM

You know that this announcement of a shortage will only ramp up orders. So is there a shortage or is this great marketing.

Secondly, isn't there usually a delay on product delivery as orders rise because Apple just sells too high a volume.

Everytime I buy off Apple they let me know the expected delay. And everytime they deliver early.

Yep. Love Apple.

Nov 28, 2012, 04:18 AM	#36
elvetio macrumors member Join Date: May 2012	.. this is your fault! they are doing this because if they start producing too early, the parts are leaked... doubling down on secrecy.. here you have it
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Nov 28, 2012, 05:03 AM	#42
gto55 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2010	maybe apple should consider buying Sharp __________________ Last edited by gto55; Nov 28, 2012 at 05:10 AM.
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Nov 28, 2012, 05:09 AM	#43
lizardofwoz macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia	Delivery delays? What a surprise. I wonder how many Apple dealerships will go out of business because they have no iMac stock to sell, and look like being without stock until 2013. Look on the bright side... it is not available but it is really, really thin. iMac, insanely LATE Last edited by lizardofwoz; Nov 28, 2012 at 05:16 AM.
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Nov 28, 2012, 05:23 AM	#48
Absrnd macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2010	So, after weeks of lots of people and sites, with so called "Apple connections", kept telling, it will be delayed. and now that Apple proved them wrong, they had nothing to complain, and now they go for the "in short supply" crap. well to all those who took their thumb out of their ass, and said, what can we make up this time, to get more attention, well ******* you. Last edited by Absrnd; Nov 28, 2012 at 05:31 AM.
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Nov 28, 2012, 03:16 AM	#26
chas0001 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alicante, SPAIN	It will be interesting to see who else will be out the door.
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Nov 28, 2012, 03:18 AM	#27
Cavepainter macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles	I am exactly the intended market for this computer (the high-end 27" at least). However, the more I read about this new imac, I think I'm gonna stick with my 2.93 i7 for at least another year or so. If Apple had ditched the very carefully thought-out up-sell strategies that dictate all the options of what we can and can't get (and how much it all costs) and just gave us a very powerful, flexible all-in-one imac for a (generally) competitive price, I would buy it the day it was available. I wonder how many people that requested things for the next imac asked for the edges of their next desktop computer to be thinner? This is a company that is no longer interested in what any professional user wants or needs. Looking at it from a businessman's standpoint, Apple wants to take as much money as possible, in any way it can think of, from my small company. I have been a vocal fan and buyer of numerous Apple computers for well over 15 years. However, after the last few years of anemic Mac Pro "updates" and now this Imac, I'm gonna pass. Mac Pro models are a terrible bargain, and the new Imac seems to be gradually moving in the same direction. New Imac? No thanks, Apple.
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Nov 28, 2012, 03:27 AM	#29
yocko macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2008	Haters; get a vaio. In stock everywhere
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Nov 28, 2012, 03:36 AM	#30
robogobo macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: der Schweiz	Sure makes for a nice grey market! I already bought a few ipad minis and resold them on eBay for $200 profit. Thanks apple!
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Nov 28, 2012, 04:06 AM	#33
Broseidon macrumors regular Join Date: May 2012	Can't help but laugh at all the people complaining about the new iMac. Seriously, you whining bunch of losers. It's a computer. No-one is forcing you to buy it. Get over it.
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Nov 28, 2012, 04:09 AM	#35
maxira macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2012	I hope it is not so! it is strange that this news comes out after announcing, finally, the iMac and their expedition, perhaps this to cover them in the event of long delays for shipments! when the costs are so high, patience and technology do not get along. I'm an Apple user for many years
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Nov 28, 2012, 04:28 AM	#39
Lancer macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia	So if Friday is the day does that mean we here in Australia will see it Friday our time, a few hours before the rest of the world and the US?
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Nov 28, 2012, 04:36 AM	#40
Wordman macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2010	This'll be the 'beta testing' batch then. Guinea pigs, please queue here. ;-)
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Nov 28, 2012, 05:24 AM	#49
Reason077 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2007	This is the most ridiculously long drawn out Mac product launch in years. Apple are usually pretty good at shipping products soon after announcement, but this iMac launch is ridiculous. Borderline vaporware. Zzzzzzzz. Wake me when the teardowns are up, please.
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Nov 28, 2012, 05:26 AM	#50
Mystic386 macrumors member Join Date: Nov 2011	You know that this announcement of a shortage will only ramp up orders. So is there a shortage or is this great marketing. Secondly, isn't there usually a delay on product delivery as orders rise because Apple just sells too high a volume. Everytime I buy off Apple they let me know the expected delay. And everytime they deliver early. Yep. Love Apple.
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