Do you read the news?
1) The reason Hamas started firing rockets into Israel again is because Israel has been assassinating Hamas leaders one by one over the past few months. Would the Israeli's stand back and not retaliate if someone was assassinating their political leaders? I don't think so.
no, wrong, and wrong again.
let's look back who started it all, when we left Gaza as the Palestinians demanded, and as the rest of the world wanted, few month after a shower of rockets came from Gaza (especially from the p[laces that Israel left.) , can you explain why ? you seem to ignore it. don't take a random piece of time and start measuring from that point, start from point zero.
2) Israel is an apartheid regime because there is widespread discrimination against Arab Israeli's. But don't take my word for it - a recent poll in Israel showed that a majority of Israeli's believe they have an apartheid regime. Source:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rimination-against-arab-minority-8223548.html
Now this is completely different subject, not related what so ever to the Palestinians, but if you start this one and want to be knowledgeable in this subj, so be it :
The facts are :
- Israeli Arab enjoy life that they never dreamt in any regime around us.
They can vote to Israel Knest, they have people that represent them in the Knest, many parties actually. There are many famous, one in particular is Achmed Tibi.
-They carry Israeli citizenship and passport.
- they don't pay taxes ( while they should, as every other citizen does) , they build illegally in their zone (for example adding more floors to the building, something forbidden by Israeli law, without the proper papers) and the police don't go there and don't bother them.
they actually doing what they want, plus enjoying a really good democracy where they can say what they want, on the Knest stage, instead of being butchered like their friends in the Syria side.
- they have schools, gardens, like every major city in Israel. you should come and visit them , and tell me if this looks like an apartheid regime, most of them drive fancy cars.
3) The UK and it's citizens are well versed in the horrors of terrorism having been subject to IRA terrorism for many years and more recently Al Qaeda terrorism. But we didn't wholesale carpet bomb the hell out of Belfast. We sought to uphold the law and eventually secure a peace settlement.
IRA is different from the Hamas, most of the times, they would have called to warn on a bomb.
Those are people with country that you can negotiate with.
I suggest you look around on Europe, and see the ticking bomb, eventually it will blow in the Europien face, I wonder what will yo u do then.
Will you massacrer 6 millions? like Germany did to the Jaws?
Will you start a major land occupation around the world as Britain did all over the history. conquer and kicking the natives out, like you did in New Zealand, Australia, and many more ?
When the **** hit the fan in Europe, you start to loose it, but, when it is you , it is OK , right ?
4) The Israeli's don't want peace. Every time the negotiators get close they scupper it by antagonising Hamas or some other group into retaliating and hey presto the talks stall. The Israeli's want to keep the West Bank, build on it and eventually push out all the Palestinians so all they are left with is two tiny and divided pieces of land in Gaza and a small part of the West Bank.
Again wrong, look a t the time Arafat was in control, and Ehod Bark was Prime minister, Ehod Barak was willing to Give Arafat pretty much more or less every thing (!) including parts of Jerusalem ( which was never ever mentioned in any biblical book of the Islam, but hey why not lie and invent more stuff that never existed just to get more land)
This is not the first time in the history where the Arabs were giving what they wanted and they retreated. look back on the year 48, when your country wanted to split Israel to two states 70% of the area would go to the Arabs , the rest to Israel.
They said NO! and start a war over the rest of the area, can you explain this idiotic logic?
5) Companies like Apple who put operations in Israel are effectively supporting the regime. When I started in the computer industry the company I worked for had operations in apartheid South Africa. I fought hard internally to get them to change that policy. The money Apple gives by way of wages and taxes simply helps to fuel the Israeli military killing machine. In that respect Apple has blood on their hands.
It's only through direct action that things will change. The vast majority of people around the world support the Palestinian cause for freedom from Israeli oppression and slavery. I hope the UN vote is one more step towards achieving that goal. War and killing people will never solve this problem. It takes a big man to stand up and fight for a peace settlement. I'm not convinced Israel or the US has such a political leader or if they ever will have. One lives in hope.
You know Shaun, you can skip on Apple things and buy different stuff, you can throw your Iphone, which already use many of the technology the was invented in Israel, you can skip the PC, as AMD and Intel chips are made in Israel (made yes), not only develop.
After all no one is forcing you to buy Apple stuff or other technology that is made by "apartheid" country.
In the end I encourage you to see this movie about what the international law is saying about settlement and 1967.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNzOUOvBpgo
(by well respected prof.)