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Old Dec 7, 2012, 09:17 PM   #201
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As for the notification center, that's one feature that Apple copied, which Google "borrowed" from Palm. I don't see how copying Apple's entire UI paradigm and all the UI innovations that they brought to market makes that a one to one comparison.
Not exactly 'copying Apple's entire UI paradigm and all the UI innovations that they brought to market'...
Schmidt was an Apple board member prior to the iphone launch, thus having inside knowledge of Apple's UI paradigm (in fact of Apple's entire paradigm, as a company) and of all the inovations they were planning to bring to market, prior to that happening. This fact makes it more like stealing inside information to gain an actual advantage over the competition (not so much Apple, but mostly all the other companies that were, or would inevitably be, planning to bring something similar to the market)...
I always favor copying an entire paradigm and its inovations when it means creating fair competition... ideas shouldn't belong to anyone, nor to any company, but only provided that you copy and re-use them AFTER the inicial solution comes to market, and not by using privileged inside knowledge that should never be used that way in a fair trade environment.
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 06:56 AM   #202
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Schmidt was an Apple board member prior to the iphone launch, thus having inside knowledge of Apple's UI paradigm (in fact of Apple's entire paradigm, as a company) and of all the inovations they were planning to bring to market, prior to that happening. This fact makes it more like stealing inside information to gain an actual advantage over the competition (not so much Apple, but mostly all the other companies that were, or would inevitably be, planning to bring something similar to the market)...
What inside information are you speaking of ? Again folks : No one ever accused Eric Schmidt of using his position on the board to gain information to pass along to his people at Google.

No one but a bunch of Internet forum goers with more Google hate than reason.

Android finally launched at the end of 2008. The iPhone was demoed in January 2007. If Android really take UI paradigms from the iPhone, Eric Schmidt being on the board of Apple didn't really help it. Andy Rubin would've had like 15 months playing around with an original iPhone and then an iPhone 3G to do so.

But Android's UI is soooooo different from the iPhone, you can plainly see that they didn't do that.
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 04:46 PM   #203
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Saying that Google stole Apple's ideas for Android is like saying that the second car maker to come along stole the first one's ideas by using wheels and seats.

Things like touch scrolling, icons, etc. were the natural progression of cel phones in general. Not to mention, Apple has copied their share of features, too, like the notification center.
He stole informations *dot*
He was at apple's board and SJ trusted him while he was spying Apple and giving informations to google's teams. That's why SJ kicked him from the board.

Without that, android would never been that far right now and just be a blackberry phone as planed first.

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Old Dec 8, 2012, 04:50 PM   #204
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Uh huh. Where'd you get these facts from, anyways. They look more like message board assumptions to me.
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 04:56 PM   #205
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He stole informations *dot*
He was at apple's board and SJ trusted him while he was spying Apple and giving informations to google's teams. That's why SJ kicked him from the board.

Without that, android would never been that far right now and just be a blackberry phone as planed first.

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Anything to back your "facts" or they are only product of your great imagination?
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Old Dec 9, 2012, 11:49 PM   #206
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That's just racist

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Schmidt didn't sneak in, he was INVITED. Get it?
Racist? Go look up racist before you start using the word.
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 12:47 AM   #207
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I always favor copying an entire paradigm and its inovations when it means creating fair competition... ideas shouldn't belong to anyone, nor to any company, but only provided that you copy and re-use them AFTER the inicial solution comes to market, and not by using privileged inside knowledge that should never be used that way in a fair trade environment.
Android was under development before and after that point. This was from Engadget a couple years ago.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/03/g...r-conflict-of/

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Google CEO Eric Schmidt has resigned from Apple's board today citing a conflict of interest. Apple (Steve Jobs, in fact) says that "Unfortunately, as Google enters more of Apple's core businesses, with Android and now Chrome OS, Eric's effectiveness as an Apple board member will be significantly diminished, since he will have to recuse himself from even larger portions of our meetings due to potential conflicts of interest."
You can argue over the real situation there, but both sides presented it this way.


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He stole informations *dot*
He was at apple's board and SJ trusted him while he was spying Apple and giving informations to google's teams. That's why SJ kicked him from the board.

Without that, android would never been that far right now and just be a blackberry phone as planed first.

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Even with the use of stupid memes, my post remains more accurate than your own.
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 12:51 AM   #208
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When there is one person around you who say that "Google didn't copy. Apple is the copier" you laugh at him.

When there are 2 people around you who say that "Google didn't copy. Apple is the copier" you laugh at them.

When there are 3 people around you who say that "Google didn't copy. Apple is the copier" You start to question yourself.

When there are numerous people around you on a mac forum who say that "Google didn't copy. Apple is the copier" you find yourself delusional and need to seek advice from psychiatric hospitals.
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 06:19 AM   #209
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When there is one person around you who say that "Google didn't copy. Apple is the copier" you laugh at him.

When there are 2 people around you who say that "Google didn't copy. Apple is the copier" you laugh at them.

When there are 3 people around you who say that "Google didn't copy. Apple is the copier" You start to question yourself.

When there are numerous people around you on a mac forum who say that "Google didn't copy. Apple is the copier" you find yourself delusional and need to seek advice from psychiatric hospitals.
No one is saying Apple is a copier. People saying Google is a copier obviously don't understand the IP at issue here nor the actual claims in the cases. They just go for the easy "media friendly" material Apple gives, the "smear campaign".
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 08:48 AM   #210
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I think I'll just sit back and watch this drama unfold on my Google TV. Oh, wait...
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 08:53 AM   #211
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I think I'll just sit back and watch this drama unfold on my Google TV. Oh, wait...
What has to do Motorola set top boxes division with Google TV?

Ah, it is an article from Appleinsider, anything related with reality is pure coincidence

Or what has to do with this thread?
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 11:08 AM   #212
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I think I'll just sit back and watch this drama unfold on my Google TV. Oh, wait...
Motorola's set top boxes for cable providers... Google TV... What's the link exactly ?
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