Just for Fun: What to expect from this eBay Auction?

braddick · Dec 31, 2012, 01:01 PM

Ok, so kind of on a whim I purchased this iPhone4 off of eBay.
Here's the auction link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-iPhone...vip=true&rt=nc

Based on what the description says, do you believe a simple DFU restore might 'fix' this one? If not, what would you speculate is wrong with this iPhone (taking into account the description may not be accurate- but for argument's sakes, let's say it is...)?

It is, "out of delivery" so I should have it later this afternoon.
Photos along with any update to follow. . .

Applejuiced · Dec 31, 2012, 01:11 PM

If it was as simple as a DFU restore he would have done it himself and sold it for more.
Its a risk, it could be anything from water damage to any other hardware issues.
Also its a Sprint CDMA iphone 4 so good chances are its blacklisted.

sracer · Dec 31, 2012, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Applejuiced

If it was as simple as a DFU restore he would have done it himself and sold it for more.
Its a risk, it could be anything from water damage to any other hardware issues.
Also its a Sprint CDMA iphone 4 so good chances are its blacklisted.

Bingo. Based on the seller's feedback, he's no stranger to iPhones. I'm betting on a botch hack/mod attempt.

Jordan921 · Dec 31, 2012, 02:03 PM

Auction ended. Wonder if the buyer is gonna be disappointed.

Applejuiced · Dec 31, 2012, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan921

Auction ended. Wonder if the buyer is gonna be disappointed.

The thread starter is the buyer

Myiphone7 · Dec 31, 2012, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Applejuiced

The thread starter is the buyer

I would think more likely the seller.

corys00 · Dec 31, 2012, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sracer

Bingo. Based on the seller's feedback, he's no stranger to iPhones. I'm betting on a botch hack/mod attempt.

I'm betting a hardware issue, the reading the other auctions this seller knows his/her way around an iPhone and knows how to put something in DFU and restore.

Buyer is going to be disappointed. But I hope I'm wrong.

itjw · Dec 31, 2012, 04:08 PM

I'd bet $$$ it's hardware related. If this seller can't do a DFU restore I'd be shocked.

It is extremely rare to get a "deal" on a serviceable iPhone. That's why in 9 of 10 cases you're either better off buying a certified pre owned from a reputable source, or a refurb straight from Apple for the extra bucks.

This has "relist" written all over it...

dejo · Dec 31, 2012, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myiphone7

I would think more likely the seller.

You think?

Quote:

Originally Posted by braddick

It is, "out of delivery" so I should have it later this afternoon.
Photos along with any update to follow. . .

braddick · Dec 31, 2012, 04:25 PM

Ok, iPhone arrives and I start out to think it may be a possible score.
Couple of quick photos, out of the box:

I plug it into my iTunes (latest update on an iMac) and get the dreaded (yet totally expected):

iTunes tells me this iPhone needs to restore, so I do so. . .

Times passes.

And right when I think it just might work out and oh, so easily(!), I get this:

There may be more to try. I'll be looking around these forums for possible answers, but so far, it's a no go.

macjram · Dec 31, 2012, 04:40 PM

Aw what a tease

corys00 · Dec 31, 2012, 04:48 PM

Try using Redsn0w or TinyUmbrella to kick it out of recovery.

EDIT: And if that still doesn't work, I'm pretty sure you can easily get your money back, all the device needs is a good main board. As long as the other parts are good you could make more parting it out and selling them individually.

braddick · Dec 31, 2012, 05:22 PM

^
I'll try this!
The good news is I need to glass, front and back, for my iPhone4S- worse case scenario.
(I think this will fit/work?)

corys00 · Dec 31, 2012, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by braddick

^
I'll try this!
The good news is I need to glass, front and back, for my iPhone4S- worse case scenario.
(I think this will fit/work?)

It's relatively to take the mainboard in and out of the iPhone 4S. But I hope that kicking it out of recovery does the trick.

Myiphone7 · Dec 31, 2012, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by braddick

Ok, iPhone arrives and I start out to think it may be a possible score.
Couple of quick photos, out of the box:
Image
Image
Image

I plug it into my iTunes (latest update on an iMac) and get the dreaded (yet totally expected):
Image

iTunes tells me this iPhone needs to restore, so I do so. . .

Image

Times passes.
Image Image

And right when I think it just might work out and oh, so easily(!), I get this:
Image

There may be more to try. I'll be looking around these forums for possible answers, but so far, it's a no go.

I'm sorry to hear that. Keep us updated.

braddick · Dec 31, 2012, 10:48 PM

So, went out with a few friends and honestly, checking Google while a bit tipsy is probably ill advised, but I did so as this has taken on a whole new level of challenge.
After trying the above without success I have taken to watching YouTube videos.
(One has me going into my host file via GO > /private > host, and editing out the last line. Did so, nothing changes...)

The quest continues.

dinggus · Jan 1, 2013, 01:22 AM

What is error -1? I've never seen it.

ant1298 · Jan 1, 2013, 05:01 AM

Just spent a few minutes with Google found this thread which may be of use. Looks like error code -1 will be a hardware issue, might not be fatal as described in the thread.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3416793?start=30&tstart=0

May help you.

braddick · Jan 1, 2013, 09:27 AM

^
Thanks!
( https://discussions.apple.com/thread...rt=30&tstart=0 )

I'll try the suggestions and report back.

AbyssImpact · Jan 1, 2013, 09:38 AM

Error -1 means that it is a hardware problem. I had the error happen to my iphone 4s. I went to the apple store and got it replaced under warranty .

braddick · Jan 1, 2013, 10:44 AM

After messing around with various tools I now get the 1601 error. I also think, as Pwnage Tool keeps pointing me in that direction, the firmware installed is, Installous 4.4.1 and that can't be good.

All else fails I will set up a Genius appointment, just to see what my options are.

braddick · Jan 1, 2013, 11:27 AM

Alrighty then.
I thought I was on to something when I attempted this:

Which led me to this:

It looked like then I could option click while clicking the restore on iTunes thus allowing me to choose the firmware but each and every single one of my options wouldn't load into iTunes and when I released the option key and simply clicked 'restore' with iTunes in went through its procedure and ended with a 1601 error.
(I had already replaced the USB cord.)

corys00 · Jan 1, 2013, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by braddick

Alrighty then.
I thought I was on to something when I attempted this:
Image

Which led me to this:
Image

It looked like then I could option click while clicking the restore on iTunes thus allowing me to choose the firmware but each and every single one of my options wouldn't load into iTunes and when I released the option key and simply clicked 'restore' with iTunes in went through its procedure and ended with a 1601 error.
(I had already replaced the USB cord.)

That error if I recall is from when the iTunes server won't validate the firmware.

Rocko1 · Jan 1, 2013, 12:18 PM

Hardware failure. You can report not as listed as the phone is broken, not outwardly visible, but internally. Or take a chance with the Apple store.

dinggus · Jan 1, 2013, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corys00

That error if I recall is from when the iTunes server won't validate the firmware.

I think that's why as well.

Edit your host file, maybe direct to Saurik's address.

Dec 31, 2012, 01:01 PM	#1
braddick Contributor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Encinitas, CA	Just for Fun: What to expect from this eBay Auction? Ok, so kind of on a whim I purchased this iPhone4 off of eBay. Here's the auction link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-iPhone...vip=true&rt=nc Based on what the description says, do you believe a simple DFU restore might 'fix' this one? If not, what would you speculate is wrong with this iPhone (taking into account the description may not be accurate- but for argument's sakes, let's say it is...)? It is, "out of delivery" so I should have it later this afternoon. Photos along with any update to follow. . .
	0

Dec 31, 2012, 04:40 PM	#11
macjram macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2008	Aw what a tease __________________ www.jonathanwho.com : student intern 2010 Macbook Pro, iPhone 4S
	1

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Dec 31, 2012, 01:11 PM	#2
Applejuiced macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: At the iPhone hacks section.	If it was as simple as a DFU restore he would have done it himself and sold it for more. Its a risk, it could be anything from water damage to any other hardware issues. Also its a Sprint CDMA iphone 4 so good chances are its blacklisted.
	3

Dec 31, 2012, 02:03 PM	#4
Jordan921 macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bay Area	Auction ended. Wonder if the buyer is gonna be disappointed.
	1

Dec 31, 2012, 04:08 PM	#8
itjw macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2011	I'd bet $$$ it's hardware related. If this seller can't do a DFU restore I'd be shocked. It is extremely rare to get a "deal" on a serviceable iPhone. That's why in 9 of 10 cases you're either better off buying a certified pre owned from a reputable source, or a refurb straight from Apple for the extra bucks. This has "relist" written all over it...
	2

Dec 31, 2012, 04:25 PM	#10
braddick Thread Starter Contributor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Encinitas, CA	Ok, iPhone arrives and I start out to think it may be a possible score. Couple of quick photos, out of the box: I plug it into my iTunes (latest update on an iMac) and get the dreaded (yet totally expected): iTunes tells me this iPhone needs to restore, so I do so. . . Times passes. And right when I think it just might work out and oh, so easily(!), I get this: There may be more to try. I'll be looking around these forums for possible answers, but so far, it's a no go.
	0

Dec 31, 2012, 04:48 PM	#12
corys00 macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2011	Try using Redsn0w or TinyUmbrella to kick it out of recovery. EDIT: And if that still doesn't work, I'm pretty sure you can easily get your money back, all the device needs is a good main board. As long as the other parts are good you could make more parting it out and selling them individually.
	0

Dec 31, 2012, 05:22 PM	#13
braddick Thread Starter Contributor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Encinitas, CA	^ I'll try this! The good news is I need to glass, front and back, for my iPhone4S- worse case scenario. (I think this will fit/work?)
	0

Dec 31, 2012, 10:48 PM	#16
braddick Thread Starter Contributor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Encinitas, CA	So, went out with a few friends and honestly, checking Google while a bit tipsy is probably ill advised, but I did so as this has taken on a whole new level of challenge. After trying the above without success I have taken to watching YouTube videos. (One has me going into my host file via GO > /private > host, and editing out the last line. Did so, nothing changes...) The quest continues.
	0

Jan 1, 2013, 01:22 AM	#17
dinggus Banned Join Date: Jan 2012	What is error -1? I've never seen it.
	0

Jan 1, 2013, 05:01 AM	#18
ant1298 macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2011	Just spent a few minutes with Google found this thread which may be of use. Looks like error code -1 will be a hardware issue, might not be fatal as described in the thread. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3416793?start=30&tstart=0 May help you.
	1

Jan 1, 2013, 09:27 AM	#19
braddick Thread Starter Contributor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Encinitas, CA	^ Thanks! ( https://discussions.apple.com/thread...rt=30&tstart=0 ) I'll try the suggestions and report back.
	0

Jan 1, 2013, 09:38 AM	#20
AbyssImpact macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2010	Error -1 means that it is a hardware problem. I had the error happen to my iphone 4s. I went to the apple store and got it replaced under warranty .
	1

Jan 1, 2013, 10:44 AM	#21
braddick Thread Starter Contributor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Encinitas, CA	After messing around with various tools I now get the 1601 error. I also think, as Pwnage Tool keeps pointing me in that direction, the firmware installed is, Installous 4.4.1 and that can't be good. All else fails I will set up a Genius appointment, just to see what my options are.
	0

Jan 1, 2013, 11:27 AM	#22
braddick Thread Starter Contributor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Encinitas, CA	Alrighty then. I thought I was on to something when I attempted this: Which led me to this: It looked like then I could option click while clicking the restore on iTunes thus allowing me to choose the firmware but each and every single one of my options wouldn't load into iTunes and when I released the option key and simply clicked 'restore' with iTunes in went through its procedure and ended with a 1601 error. (I had already replaced the USB cord.)
	0

Jan 1, 2013, 12:18 PM	#24
Rocko1 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2011	Hardware failure. You can report not as listed as the phone is broken, not outwardly visible, but internally. Or take a chance with the Apple store.
	3