Retina bootcamp users - 1440x900?

[roberto.caldas]

Does anyone have any news on this problem?

[bill-p]

For Bootcamp, set display resolution to native (2880 x 1800), set DPI scaling to 199%, make sure you have disabled/unchecked "Windows XP scaling mode", and set the cursor to "Very Large".

And that's it. It works on either Windows 7 or Windows 8.

[Freyqq]

Don't set it at 1440x900. Instead, set it at native resolution and turn up the dpi settings to 150%-200%. DPI settings are basically windows' version of HiDPI.

[mrbigglessworth]

How are you guys getting 1440*900 in Windows? In my resolution selection I go from 1600*900 or the next selection of 1366*768.

[bill-p]

Originally Posted by mrbigglessworth

How are you guys getting 1440*900 in Windows? In my resolution selection I go from 1600*900 or the next selection of 1366*768.

You have to add it as a custom resolution via nVidia Control Panel. It's not there by default because the display doesn't include 1440 x 900 as a recognizable resolution. And it's not standard like 1366 x 768 or 1680 x 1050.

[roberto.caldas]

I'm interested in running games at 1440x900 without blurriness, is there any news on this pixel doubling feature?
Can we ask NVidia for this? Where? Let's make a mass request.

[Ploki]

Originally Posted by roberto.caldas

I'm interested in running games at 1440x900 without blurriness, is there any news on this pixel doubling feature?
Can we ask NVidia for this? Where? Let's make a mass request.

Run the game at 2880*1800 ?!

[roberto.caldas]

Originally Posted by Ploki

Run the game at 2880*1800 ?!

Wow, how didn't I think of this before???! :P

Unfortunately, I cannot run Battlefield 3 at this resolution.

[Ploki]

Originally Posted by roberto.caldas

Wow, how didn't I think of this before???! :P

Unfortunately, I cannot run Battlefield 3 at this resolution.

I doubt nVidia can do anything about that though. It's up to game developers, they don't depend on OS for scaling.

[Dyno-Mike]

Originally Posted by roberto.caldas

I'm interested in running games at 1440x900 without blurriness, is there any news on this pixel doubling feature?
Can we ask NVidia for this? Where? Let's make a mass request.

I so want this too. Playing games in OSX at 1440x900 looks much better than the same game at 1440x900 under windows.

Im sure I read on the nVidia forums a few months back that they won't be enabling a pixel doubling feature. (I can't find the link now)

[Ploki]

Originally Posted by Dyno-Mike

I so want this too. Playing games in OSX at 1440x900 looks much better than the same game at 1440x900 under windows.

Im sure I read on the nVidia forums a few months back that they won't be enabling a pixel doubling feature. (I can't find the link now)

This makes no ****ing sense, you know that right?

edit: withdrawn!

[dusk007]

Originally Posted by Corey Naish

EDIT:
Side by side: http://i50.tinypic.com/210mzrq.jpg

Zoomed in on clock :
Samsung PX2370 at 1920x1080 native - http://i46.tinypic.com/ziqczl.jpg
Macbook Pro Retina display at 1440x900 - http://i45.tinypic.com/igx5dl.jpg

As you can see, at 1440x900 there's still some slight blur, but it's not like a normal panel. It's noticeable, but not as bad as I expected it to be.

Honestly I don't see any blur whatsoever in those pictures. Only one display being lower res. Naturally the text has some sub pixel font smoothing. That can be changed via ClearFont settings. It looks to me as something that is due to the lower res in general not some bad scaling.
Each single pixel I can make out is perfectly sharp.

Are you guys sure you aren't making up a scaling problem when all there is is just a lower resolution which always looks horrible directly compared to a higher res.

[bill-p]

Originally Posted by dusk007

Honestly I don't see any blur whatsoever in those pictures. Only one display being lower res. Naturally the text has some sub pixel font smoothing. That can be changed via ClearFont settings. It looks to me as something that is due to the lower res in general not some bad scaling.
Each single pixel I can make out is perfectly sharp.

Are you guys sure you aren't making up a scaling problem when all there is is just a lower resolution which always looks horrible directly compared to a higher res.

It's hard to explain without having you look at two of the displays side by side.

But let's put it this way: 1440 x 900 on a Retina display applies a bilinear filter on top, which causes things to look blurrier compared to a native 1440 x 900 display, which doesn't have any sub-pixel to further "bilinear" its native resolution.

There's a simpler fix to this problem than what people are asking for: just tell nVidia to disable the bilinear filter when scaling display resolution. It'll both increase performance and make things look better.

[roberto.caldas]

Originally Posted by Ploki

I doubt nVidia can do anything about that though. It's up to game developers, they don't depend on OS for scaling.

I think that is handled by the driver, it doesn't make much sense for the game to do it, it's very low level.

Look at this:
http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/que...ale-resolution

As far as I know bill-p is right.

[Ploki]

Originally Posted by roberto.caldas

I think that is handled by the driver, it doesn't make much sense for the game to do it, it's very low level.

Look at this:
http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/que...ale-resolution

As far as I know bill-p is right.

Oh, you mean like that?
Still - you were talking about pixel doubling, as far as I understand you mean HiDPI mode? In that case the nvidia driver would have to cheat the game into thinking its running a 2880*1800 and somehow magically upscale UI elements?

Or if you mean pixel doubling what bill-p explains, that four pixels on the retina is exactly one pixel of 1440*900 with no bilinear filtering?

[roberto.caldas]

Originally Posted by Ploki

Oh, you mean like that?
Still - you were talking about pixel doubling, as far as I understand you mean HiDPI mode? In that case the nvidia driver would have to cheat the game into thinking its running a 2880*1800 and somehow magically upscale UI elements?

Or if you mean pixel doubling what bill-p explains, that four pixels on the retina is exactly one pixel of 1440*900 with no bilinear filtering?

Second option.

[Ploki]

Originally Posted by roberto.caldas

Second option.

Ah... Sorry then, misunderstood. Yeah that is purely fault of nVidia.

edit: funny, one would think that additional filtering/pixels would make things look smoother.

[WPWoodJr]

Originally Posted by bill-p

For Bootcamp, set display resolution to native (2880 x 1800), set DPI scaling to 199%, make sure you have disabled/unchecked "Windows XP scaling mode", and set the cursor to "Very Large".

And that's it. It works on either Windows 7 or Windows 8.

Why 199% and not 200% ?? I noticed that Parallels set it to 199% in my VM too.

[bill-p]

Originally Posted by WPWoodJr

Why 199% and not 200% ?? I noticed that Parallels set it to 199% in my VM too.

Because 200% and above scales the cursor improperly.

It's better to use 199% and set the cursor to "Very Large" instead.