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Old Jan 14, 2013, 03:04 AM   #1
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Installing bundled software on another Mac

OmniGraffle and OmniOutliner came with my Powerbook G4 installation DVD and I would like to install it on my Mac Pro as well.
Unfortunately it won't install on my Mac Pro and transferring the already installed applications/preference files from the Powerbook does work, but it comes up as unlicensed.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 03:08 AM   #2
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OmniGraffle and OmniOutliner came with my Powerbook G4 installation DVD and I would like to install it on my Mac Pro as well.
Unfortunately it won't install on my Mac Pro and transferring the already installed applications/preference files from the Powerbook does work, but it comes up as unlicensed.
You might have a problem here, are the Apps Universal?

One is a PPC architecture while the other is Intel!
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 04:59 AM   #3
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They both work on my (Intel) Mac Pro, but upon further inspection ("Get info" in the Finder) I see that OmniOutliner is universal while OmniGraffle is PowerPC. Strange that the latter works on my Mac Pro.

Anyway, the licensing is obviously missing. I've taken care to copy over both the "Application support" sub-folder as well as the prefs. Where else could those files be located? They're obviously licensed on my Powerbook.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 05:24 AM   #4
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They both work on my (Intel) Mac Pro, but upon further inspection ("Get info" in the Finder) I see that OmniOutliner is universal while OmniGraffle is PowerPC. Strange that the latter works on my Mac Pro.

Anyway, the licensing is obviously missing. I've taken care to copy over both the "Application support" sub-folder as well as the prefs. Where else could those files be located? They're obviously licensed on my Powerbook.
The licenses on my 10.5.8 are in

/Users/****/Library/Application Support/Omni Group/Software Licenses

These files can be opened with TextEdit, better yet with Property List Editor if you have Dev. Tools installed.

If you want to know the Architecture of the executables do the following.

Open terminal and type:

lipo -info and the drag the contents of OmniOutliner/Contents/MacOS/OmniOutliner here

hit enter and you see which Arch types are supported.

But, it seems they are Universal, otherwise they won't run on Mac Pro, or are you running SL with rosseta?

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They both work on my (Intel) Mac Pro, but upon further inspection ("Get info" in the Finder) I see that OmniOutliner is universal while OmniGraffle is PowerPC. Strange that the latter works on my Mac Pro.
I'm guessing you have Snow Leopard (SL) on the Pro. SL still has the Rosetta PPC emulator, which is gone in Lion and Mountain Lion. So you can still run PPC apps under SL.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 12:56 PM   #6
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Yes, I believe you're right as when running some other software I was asked if I wanted to install Rosetta.
I checked (using the terminal commands posted by justperry earlier in this thread) and found out that both were PPC apps.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 12:21 AM   #7
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The licenses on my 10.5.8 are in

/Users/****/Library/Application Support/Omni Group/Software Licenses
You're right -almost. I found them in /Library/Application Support/Omni Group/Software Licenses.
That solved the whole problem

Edit: moving that folder over to the user area (the location you first said) works as well -makes more sense in my opinion.

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You're right -almost. I found them in /Library/Application Support/Omni Group/Software Licenses.
That solved the whole problem

Edit: moving that folder over to the user area (the location you first said) works as well -makes more sense in my opinion.
Ah, forgot to say, when you installed those Apps you probably were asked if you want to install for All Users or only the User you are in, if you chose All it will install in /Library and the ~/Home/Library folder for the other one.

So, you learned a thing now about Arch type/lipo -info.

Good it's solved.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 02:39 AM   #9
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I've been asked about that when installing some other apps, but not this one. Probably because it was part of an OSX installation. I just got to choose which apps to include/exclude when clicking on "customize".
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After further review it appears the licensing terms of the applications allows multiple computers and so this thread is now reopened.

Here's from Omnigroups' website.

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Our products are usually licensed for a given number of computers or people, deciding in favor of the smaller of the two numbers if they aren't the same. For instance, one person with both a laptop and a desktop computer (or, say, a home machine and an office machine) can legally install and use a single license on both computers. Similarly, one home computer shared by three family members needs only a single license of the software.
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I've been asked about that when installing some other apps, but not this one. Probably because it was part of an OSX installation. I just got to choose which apps to include/exclude when clicking on "customize".
Some Applications won't ask, like this one is licensed for more users on one computer so this is probably the case.
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