Apple TV Refresh to Be Stealth Update, Will Not Affect Product Features - Page 2

ovrlrd · Jan 30, 2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lunarworks

Because if they put an "updated" banner on it, hordes of internet complainers will spill out onto the net and complain that there's no new features.

So really, a stealth update is fine.

This. With the amount of impetus behind a new "Apple TV" on the internet, it is a marketing disadvantage to call it new until there is actually something really new about it.

wxman2003 · Jan 30, 2013, 12:18 PM

Apple Fail.

MagnumOP · Jan 30, 2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rbrian

Will an upgraded wireless chip enable it to stay connected to Home Sharing for more than 5 minutes without disconnecting (while two iPhones, an iPad, two Macs, and Windows PC stay connected in the same place)?

mine has the same problem, so I use ethernet.

macUser2007 · Jan 30, 2013, 12:19 PM

IT'S THE APPS, STUPID!

I am glad they are upgrading the internals, but we really need Apple to open Apple TV to developers so we can get some decent apps in their.

Right now, it's a glorified Netflix player, and not a very good one, either (e.g., if you finish an episode, it presents you with a Play button for the SAME episode, instead of the NEXT episode as many other front-ends do).

I love Netflix and that's why I am OK with ATV, but it really needs apps before Google TV gets its act together and ATV becomes irrelevant.

OllyW · Jan 30, 2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Icaras

I don't understand this part. Why is this not the case in the FCC filing diagram?

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Originally Posted by bitWrangler

Wait, so this update says that the dimensions will be the same, but yet the dimensions shown are smaller than the current ATV? So what's up with that?

The dimensions in the FCC filling are the same as the base of the current Apple TV.

Krazy Bill · Jan 30, 2013, 12:21 PM

there won't be any new features or other changes

Pretty much sums it up. Apple should just adopt this tag line and stamp it on 90% of their products.

iAmUndefined · Jan 30, 2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Malte.

I can't believe that apple dont see the mega-huge potential in apple tv...

Give it some apps for gods sake!

Why would there be apps on Apple TV? The only apps that would work are Netflix, HBO and other channel-specific apps which would require a deal with Apple anyway.

thejadedmonkey · Jan 30, 2013, 12:24 PM

I got one last Saturday and was worried I might have to return it.

this is fantastic news (for me at least

)

Peace · Jan 30, 2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by iAmUndefined

Why would there be apps on Apple TV? The only apps that would work are Netflix, HBO and other channel-specific apps which would require a deal with Apple anyway.

Safari
Twitter
Facebook
NFL
ESPN
Pandora
NPR
CNN
Stocks
Maps
Notes
Reminders
Messages
Weather

The list goes on and on and on.

gmanist1000 · Jan 30, 2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by barnaby117

At the moment, this doesn't offer much more than easy typing in search fields. Doesn't it seem like a version of Safari for Apple TV has to be on the way?

I'm sure they would save that for the real Apple TV.

macUser2007 · Jan 30, 2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by iAmUndefined

Why would there be apps on Apple TV? The only apps that would work are Netflix, HBO and other channel-specific apps which would require a deal with Apple anyway.

Why should there be Apple TV?

Undefined, alright....

Sir Ruben · Jan 30, 2013, 12:30 PM

As an Apple fan I often wonder why apple never allow their products to unleash their full potential.

As an example I jailbroke my ATV2 and now I am able to stream from my network drive. It works FLAWLESSLY and has replaced my PS3 as my media streamer. Plus it does so consuming very little electricity. Why on earth would you not allow it to do this as standard?!?!

Many companies try and add as many features as they can, while Apple deliberately remove things it can do with ease.

lunarworks · Jan 30, 2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace

Safari
Twitter
Facebook
NFL
ESPN
Pandora
NPR
CNN
Stocks
Maps
Notes
Reminders
Messages
Weather

The list goes on and on and on.

Apple's not going to give you those particulars in a $99 device. They'd rather you buy a Mac Mini, which is still cheaper than an unlocked iPhone.

jlasoon · Jan 30, 2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace

Safari
Twitter
Facebook
NFL
ESPN
Pandora
NPR
CNN
Stocks
Maps
Notes
Reminders
Messages
Weather

The list goes on and on and on.

I think you need a ROKU

doelcm82 · Jan 30, 2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Four oF NINE

This doesn't seem like much of an update

Apple says the same thing. It's amazing how in sync you are.

JHankwitz · Jan 30, 2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Four oF NINE

This doesn't seem like much of an update

That's why they call it a "stealth update".

jlasoon · Jan 30, 2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by doelcm82

Apple says the same thing. It's amazing how in sync you are.

has been saying this for some time now about all their products.

Peace · Jan 30, 2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lunarworks

Apple's not going to give you those particulars in a $99 device. They'd rather you buy a Mac Mini, which is still cheaper than an unlocked iPhone.

They would sell more than 2 million if they did.

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Originally Posted by jlasoon

I think you need a ROKU

No. I need a reason to use a bluetooth keyboard that Apple just enabled.

Icaras · Jan 30, 2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OllyW

The dimensions in the FCC filling are the same as the base of the current Apple TV.

But the diagram says 93.78 mm, as opposed to the 98 mm count on the current Apple TV? Sorry, I think I keep missing something here

mohremail · Jan 30, 2013, 12:35 PM

Any guesses as to when this will happen? Though its not a real big update, it's still an update.... Waiting to find one when they come out....

DDaddyx2 · Jan 30, 2013, 12:36 PM

Just add some more content providers. Amazon...Pandora...Spotify...Crackle. If there is a audio/video content provider with an iPad app, then there should be an effort to make one for Apple TV. I've got my stupid old Roku taking up an HDMI port just for Amazon video.

And I know Airplay works but I don't want to use my mobile device when it's something the Apple TV should be able to do itself.

JAT · Jan 30, 2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by macrumors

an apple spokesperson spoke to

WHAT?!?

No way.

jlasoon · Jan 30, 2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace

No. I need a reason to use a bluetooth keyboard that Apple just enabled.

Listen, you're trying to be logical. Don't !!!

roland.g · Jan 30, 2013, 12:38 PM

I've been planning on getting a 3rd gen to take advantage of the 1080p. I can move my second gen to my basement tv. However, since I wasn't in a hurry, I'll still wait till these are in distribution to at least get the spec bump on the chip.

Dwalls90 · Jan 30, 2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace

Thought So.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...&postcount=108

Yea, tech crunch nailed this spot on.

I hope they don't give the iPad mini an A5X. The A5X will be far from over a year old by the time it would be put into the Mini, and as we can see from the iPad 3, requires way more battery power and thermal space.

I'd hope it would either be an A6X underclocked or A6 (it has less pixels to drive and isn't meant to be a performance beast like the iPad) so that it can be retina without getting thicker or killing battery life. The A5X was kind of a flop of a chip design if you ask me. The A6X is along those lines, but seems to be better on battery and heat dissipation.

But by moving to the A5X, which is more expensive to manufacturer, it's almost as if Apple is implying that the A5 isn't suitable for the current Apple TV. I don't see the point in changing what isn't broken. It may be a "silent update", but surely this is planning for something Apple has planned down the product pipeline.

Jan 30, 2013, 12:18 PM	#27
wxman2003 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2011	Apple Fail. __________________ iMac I5, Macbook, iPad 4, iPhone 5, iPod, ATV 3
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Krazy Bill macrumors 68000 Join Date: Dec 2011	*there won't be any new features or other changes* Pretty much sums it up. Apple should just adopt this tag line and stamp it on 90% of their products. __________________ We are the iBorg. All your OS X are belong to us.
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Jan 30, 2013, 12:24 PM	#33
thejadedmonkey macrumors 604 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pa	I got one last Saturday and was worried I might have to return it. this is fantastic news (for me at least ) __________________ MacBook Air • 17" MacBook Pro • iPod Nano • Apple TV Custom Windows 7 Desktop • Surface RT • WP7 "Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment." - Mulla Nasrudin
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Jan 30, 2013, 12:30 PM	#37
Sir Ruben macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2010	As an Apple fan I often wonder why apple never allow their products to unleash their full potential. As an example I jailbroke my ATV2 and now I am able to stream from my network drive. It works FLAWLESSLY and has replaced my PS3 as my media streamer. Plus it does so consuming very little electricity. Why on earth would you not allow it to do this as standard?!?! Many companies try and add as many features as they can, while Apple deliberately remove things it can do with ease. __________________ iPad (3rd Gen, 16GB, WiFi, White) iPhone 5 (16GB, White & Silver) Mac Mini (2012) Apple TV (2nd Gen) Samsung Galaxy S4 My Flickr
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Jan 30, 2013, 12:36 PM	#46
DDaddyx2 macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN	Just add some more content providers. Amazon...Pandora...Spotify...Crackle. If there is a audio/video content provider with an iPad app, then there should be an effort to make one for Apple TV. I've got my stupid old Roku taking up an HDMI port just for Amazon video. And I know Airplay works but I don't want to use my mobile device when it's something the Apple TV should be able to do itself. __________________ 27" late-2012 iMac, 3.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB Fusion HD ; iPad 3rd Gen WiFi 64 GB ; iPhone 5 32 GB ; Apple TV 2nd Gen; AirPort Extreme
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Jan 30, 2013, 12:19 PM	#29
macUser2007 macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2007	IT'S THE APPS, STUPID! I am glad they are upgrading the internals, but we really need Apple to open Apple TV to developers so we can get some decent apps in their. Right now, it's a glorified Netflix player, and not a very good one, either (e.g., if you finish an episode, it presents you with a Play button for the SAME episode, instead of the NEXT episode as many other front-ends do). I love Netflix and that's why I am OK with ATV, but it really needs apps before Google TV gets its act together and ATV becomes irrelevant.
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Jan 30, 2013, 12:35 PM	#45
mohremail macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2012	Any guesses as to when this will happen? Though its not a real big update, it's still an update.... Waiting to find one when they come out....
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Jan 30, 2013, 12:38 PM	#49
roland.g macrumors 601 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: One mile up and soaring	I've been planning on getting a 3rd gen to take advantage of the 1080p. I can move my second gen to my basement tv. However, since I wasn't in a hurry, I'll still wait till these are in distribution to at least get the spec bump on the chip. __________________ I know this because Tyler knows this. You are not a beautiful snowflake. You are the same decaying matter as everything else.
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