Rossen Report "Apple picking" error?

sclawis300 · Feb 20, 2013, 08:52 AM

On the Today show this morning Jeff Rossen did a report about people stealing iphones while you are using them. He said that the worst part is that they can reset your password because the phone was in use. I am pretty sure this is dead wrong but I did notice something interesting. You can change the "auto lock" setting to never without having to enter a password.

Seems like a security oversight by apple to me. What do you guys think?

SandboxGeneral · Feb 20, 2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

On the Today show this morning Jeff Rossen did a report about people stealing iphones while you are using them. He said that the worst part is that they can reset your password because the phone was in use. I am pretty sure this is dead wrong but I did notice something interesting. You can change the "auto lock" setting to never without having to enter a password.

Seems like a security oversight by apple to me. What do you guys think?

You have to know the existing password before you're able to change it to something new.

bonskovsky · Feb 20, 2013, 09:06 AM

If you let someone snatch your phone without locking it at some point in the confrontation, then that's you. You can't just have your phone sitting out while someone is right next to you like that.

r2shyyou · Feb 20, 2013, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bonskovsky

If you let someone snatch your phone without locking it at some point in the confrontation, then that's you. You can't just have your phone sitting out while someone is right next to you like that.

Very good point!

*Note to self: keep iPhone locked at all times when in the vicinity of other humans. Under no circumstances should you use iPhone when others are nearby.

P.S. Why doesn't the iPhone automatically lock when within range of other people? Seems like a security oversight by apple to me. What do you guys think?

sclawis300 · Feb 20, 2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SandboxGeneral

You have to know the existing password before you're able to change it to something new.

exactly what I thought. Why not require this to change when the phone auto locks? If I grab a phone that is unlocked but cant change the password, all I have to do is set it to never auto lock and I wont need the password. That is almost as good as reseting.

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Originally Posted by bonskovsky

If you let someone snatch your phone without locking it at some point in the confrontation, then that's you. You can't just have your phone sitting out while someone is right next to you like that.

How exactly do you lock your phone while someone is punching you in the face??? They were talking about people grabbing the phone out of your hand while you are using it. Not just sitting on a table.

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Originally Posted by r2shyyou

Very good point!

*Note to self: keep iPhone locked at all times when in the vicinity of other humans. Under no circumstances should you use iPhone when others are nearby.

P.S. Why doesn't the iPhone automatically lock when within range of other people? Seems like a security oversight by apple to me. What do you guys think?

dumbest response I have seen in a long time. nice job. Where is the down vote arrow when you need it?

bonskovsky · Feb 20, 2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

How exactly do you lock your phone while someone is punching you in the face??? They were talking about people grabbing the phone out of your hand while you are using it. Not just sitting on a table.

It's kind of like an automatic reaction. I've seen people get their iPhones snatched, (she was a sitting duck) and most of the time, they just reacted too slowly. If I'm sitting on a bus, I instinctively clutch my phone tighter than I normally would.

Also, if someone tries to snatch it right out of my hand, it's going to be a confrontation.

sclawis300 · Feb 20, 2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bonskovsky

It's kind of like an automatic reaction. I've seen people get their iPhones snatched, (she was a sitting duck) and most of the time, they just reacted too slowly. If I'm sitting on a bus, I instinctively clutch my phone tighter than I normally would.

Also, if someone tries to snatch it right out of my hand, it's going to be a confrontation.

but how are you going to lock it? Just pushing the lock button does not make it require a password.

r2shyyou · Feb 20, 2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

dumbest response I have seen in a long time. nice job. Where is the down vote arrow when you need it?

It's okay, don't worry, you just missed that it was, ya know, SARCASM.

wxman2003 · Feb 20, 2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

but how are you going to lock it? Just pushing the lock button does not make it require a password.

Always have a pass code to begin with.

bonskovsky · Feb 20, 2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

but how are you going to lock it? Just pushing the lock button does not make it require a password.

Are you new to iPhones?

sclawis300 · Feb 20, 2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wxman2003

Always have a pass code to begin with.

My bad, I was confusing "auto lock" with "require passcode". minimum setting to auto lock is 1 minute while the minimum for require passcode is immediately.

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Originally Posted by bonskovsky

Are you new to iPhones?

nope

bonskovsky · Feb 20, 2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

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Originally Posted by bonskovsky

Are you new to iPhones?

nope

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

but how are you going to lock it? Just pushing the lock button does not make it require a password.

Um,.....

Yes it does.

sclawis300 · Feb 20, 2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bonskovsky

Um,.....

Yes it does.

did you read my last post? obviously not.

pnyc · Feb 20, 2013, 02:57 PM

What does it matter if the phone is locked or not? Who cares if he can change the password or not, he has your phone he can reset the password/phone. You think the thief cares about your sexting pic collection, most likely that's not his motivation for stealing your phone. If his ass is not completely up his ass he'll simply factory restore the phone and re-sale.

bonskovsky · Feb 20, 2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

did you read my last post? obviously not.

yes i did but, im lost

point blank if somebody tries to steal your phone, you can lock it in the tussle

Once they factory restore it with a computer you're safe anyway so.

sclawis300 · Feb 20, 2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pnyc

What does it matter if the phone is locked or not? Who cares if he can change the password or not, he has your phone he can reset the password/phone. You think the thief cares about your sexting pic collection, most likely that's not his motivation for stealing your phone. If his ass is not completely up his ass he'll simply factory restore the phone and re-sale.

Lots of people have these things called jobs where they have sensitive information stored on their phones.

Ste Nova · Feb 21, 2013, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

Lots of people have these things called jobs where they have sensitive information stored on their phones.

I do, thats why I don't use buses

VulchR · Feb 21, 2013, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pnyc

What does it matter if the phone is locked or not? Who cares if he can change the password or not, he has your phone he can reset the password/phone. You think the thief cares about your sexting pic collection, most likely that's not his motivation for stealing your phone. If his ass is not completely up his ass he'll simply factory restore the phone and re-sale.

Which is exactly why the manufacturers of mobile phones need to add hardware-based security, like perhaps a physical card that goes into the SIM slot that is the only way of enabling the device to be factory restored.

pnyc · Feb 21, 2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

Lots of people have these things called jobs where they have sensitive information stored on their phones.

True, but sensitive information should be encrypted. iPhone passcode lock has a pretty poor track record as far as exploits and vulnerabilities are concerned, Apple just closed the latest one few days ago. You shouldn't trust it to protect your "sensitive data".

Jimmy James · Feb 22, 2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

dumbest response i have seen in a long time. Nice job. Where is the down vote arrow when you need it?

facepalm!!!

macingman · Feb 22, 2013, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sclawis300

dumbest response I have seen in a long time. nice job. Where is the down vote arrow when you need it?

I actually facepalmed. It was sarcasm mate.

AFDoc · Feb 23, 2013, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by r2shyyou

It's okay, don't worry, you just missed that it was, ya know, SARCASM.

LoL.... I didn't think anything but when I read your response and then LMAO when OP responded the way they did. I guess some people just don't have the gift some of us have.

SoLongAndroid · Feb 23, 2013, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bonskovsky

If you let someone snatch your phone without locking it at some point in the confrontation, then that's you. You can't just have your phone sitting out while someone is right next to you like that.

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Originally Posted by bonskovsky

yes i did but, im lost

point blank if somebody tries to steal your phone, you can lock it in the tussle

Once they factory restore it with a computer you're safe anyway so.

This guy would have to be a ninja.

Feb 20, 2013, 08:52 AM	#1
sclawis300 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2010	Rossen Report "Apple picking" error? On the Today show this morning Jeff Rossen did a report about people stealing iphones while you are using them. He said that the worst part is that they can reset your password because the phone was in use. I am pretty sure this is dead wrong but I did notice something interesting. You can change the "auto lock" setting to never without having to enter a password. Seems like a security oversight by apple to me. What do you guys think?
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pnyc macrumors regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY	What does it matter if the phone is locked or not? Who cares if he can change the password or not, he has your phone he can reset the password/phone. You think the thief cares about your sexting pic collection, most likely that's not his motivation for stealing your phone. If his ass is not completely up his ass he'll simply factory restore the phone and re-sale. __________________ *MacBook Pro i7, 8GB, 250GB SSD ; 27" LED Apple Cinema Display*
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bonskovsky Banned Join Date: Dec 2012	If you let someone snatch your phone without locking it at some point in the confrontation, then that's you. You can't just have your phone sitting out while someone is right next to you like that.
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