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Verizon wants $600 for me to upgrade to 5S..no way I am paying that..

Verizon > $199.00 > 2 yr contract > unless I want to pay the ETF later, and its $350.00 to do so minus $10.00 for each month of usage > Total if purchased off contract $649.00
 
I'm sorry, but the Nexus 5 is not better than the iPhone 5s hardware wise. It has an inferior rear camera, no Touch ID, a 32 bit processor, it's made entirely of plastic, etc. One can argue that the Nexus 5 is perhaps a better phone overall for its price, but it's not better hardware wise.

It can be argued that the Nexus 5 has better hardware than iPhone 5S

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Nexus-5,Apple-iPhone-5s/phones/8148,7710
Google Nexus 5 vs Apple iPhone 5s Specs
 
The Nexus 5 costs around $200 to produce but you are not the customer you are being sold to advertisers so Google makes the margin back. It will be updated next year then no longer.

The iPhone 5s costs around $200 and you are enjoying a premium Apple product with five years of iOS support and the Genius Bar.

The Nexus 5 retails for $349 for the 16gb model and the iPhone 5S is $649 for the 16gb model so what're you talking about? You also realize five years of iOS support is completely absurd, right? Last I checked, nothing below the iPhone 4 has access to iOS 7. Also, the Genius Bar is yours to access for one year, any additional years costs even more money on top of that.
 
I'm looking to buy a new phone off contract, however I can't help noticing the huge price difference between the latest Nexus 5 ($350) and the iPhone 5S ($650) despite the Nexus 5 being better hardware wise. Where is the $300 difference coming from?

If I didn't have a lot of apps already, I think the Nexus 5 would be a no-brainer to me?

Well there are a few ways to look at the value or worth of a smartphone. Let me break it down how I see it, considering I've switched between BBOS, iOS5/6, BB10, Android 4.1/.2/.3, and again iOS7.

Hardware & Specs:
- what are you wanting out of this in your day to day use?
Battery Life, Camera performance (Quality shots: far, macro, burst mode, less compression, etc etc), large screen (reading eBooks, gaming, more information displayed on a screen, etc) ... you get the idea?

Social:
- I'm not talking about BBM vs iMessage vs Hangouts vs Google+ vs FaceBook vs WhatsApp. I'm talking about your 'REAL' social network of professional constituents and personal friends! Are the majority of them using Android, iOS, or BlackBerry (BBOS legacy, BB10) and are the majority of them HAPPY using their choice and not looking to switch anytime soon? Many out there will cry "I make my own decisions, blah blah" but when you visit your friends' pad, goto work, or family and have media content to share ... how are you ABLE to share it to them? How easily?
- iOS: AppleTV & AirPlay & (now on newer devices) AirDrop
- Android & BB10: NFC, Bluetooth, WiFi, WiDirect, MirrorCast (some models may not support this), etc.
All can use WhatsApp or BBM now that it's on all 3 to share limited size of pictures, videos, voice recordings and music.
NOTE: Unless an iOS device has "manage music manually" you cannot send a music track you OWN to another iOS device - very odd, and I'm unsure you can share (using any medium) to another mobile OS device (and not sending a link to the music track, but the ACTUAL music track itself). Sure SoundCloud and such exists but again that is a link to the source not something you necessarily own.

Software & Use:
- Here is a key decision process when choosing a mobile device and will be unique to everyone. I can only post examples of what I've experience from my varied tastes and choices before & currently:

BB10 - I love how the keyboard can be set to 3 languages and I can not only type on the fly but the CONTEXT and proper grammar is auto corrected between the languages typed in sentence/paragraph/tense etc. 3rd party keyboards for Android only do the underlined above: many have said otherwise yet fail to show me a video or in person exactly this.

Android - a plethora of apps and features to augment the UI and TRULY make your device YOURS! Moto X did to the hardware what Android has pretty much always allowed on the software end since Gingerbread 2.3 (could've been earlier than this). Not to mention LOTS of VOIP applications for free local or national voice or video calls! Choices and wide range of hardware so that you get the RIGHT device to suit YOUR needs in the Hardware choice section.

iOS - for me it's about unity of function for the features:
iTunes U (I LOVE to learn new things, and since it has so many information from top quality universities this is such a value that cannot be rated should you value it).
Podcasts, iOS, in my mind STILL does podcasts the best. No need to dig, tweak, twerk, insert, adjust software to get the podcasts you want.
Music playback - to this day ... iOS gets using headphones (ControlTalk) THE BEST!! I'm a public transit commuter and I cannot stand the drawl conversations in the rush hour travels to/from work and I need to control my music even if I cannot pull out my iPhone from my pocket when the train/bus/subway is seriously packed; I could seriously loose my cool!
iMessage - right now I have no working phone line so emails, IM (BBM, FB) or iMessage is my only form of communication unless I hunt around Toronto for a pay phone. The majority of ppl I know are on iOS so even if they cannot SMS me I STILL get the message since we're all using data (me on wifi, them on cellular/wifi). I have to wait 3 days for my iPhone to get unlocked costs me $109 dollars.

eBooks - even with a 4.x screen which is smaller than the competition, has lower pixel count for density, it's STILL the best and easiest for me to read on - yes I wear glasses but my prescription is fairly light and required for driving not reading within arms reach.

The beauty is all of the above works on my Mac OS X device as well - Maps, Music, Podcasts, eBooks, Maps, iMessage, Documents, auto backup to iCloud ... its ALL working on both iOS/Mac OS X and to me .... THAT was the primary factor and to be honest as much as I personally liked another platform it had so many holes that my fanboyism, patriotism had me blinded until I saw another iOS user getting so much in tune with their day I was back in a flash!!
 
Not really. Aside from the screen size/resolution I see nothing there that indicates any better hardware at all. The SoC, rear camera, lack of a fingerprint ID sensor and the chassis build materials are all inferior to the 5s.

the rear camera are comparable.
iphone5S have ID sensor but doesn't have NFC, wireless charging, Barometer, Step detector, Step counter

the Nexus 5 has 445 ppi while the Iphone5S has only 326ppi

1080 x 1920 pixels vs. 640 x 1136 pixels

Like I said, some can argue that Iphone5S has better hardware. Some can argue that Nexus 5 does.


$349 vs $649 is a difference of $300.
 
the rear camera are comparable.
iphone5S have ID sensor but doesn't have NFC, wireless charging, Barometer, Step detector, Step counter

the Nexus 5 has 445 ppi while the Iphone5S has only 326ppi

1080 x 1920 pixels vs. 640 x 1136 pixels

Like I said, some can argue that Iphone5S has better hardware. Some can argue that Nexus 5 does.


$349 vs $649 is a difference of $300.

The camera on the nexus 5 is no where as good as the 5S. Heck. It's no where as good the iPhone 5.

Unless you have a still object that's willing to stand in same place for 3 seconds in good lighting. That's about the only time you can convince common users that the nexus 5 and 5S camera performance is the same.

Good luck with moving objects and small kids when trying to take pics with the nexus 5.

Speaker volume is also much lower than iPhone 5s.

Battery life on nexus 5 is better than nexus 5. It can make it a day with moderate use. iPhone 5s can make it a day with heavy use.

I've owned every iPhone. Owned all types of androids including the last 3 nexus devices including the nexus 5.

Saying all that. Def check out the nexus 5 especially the price off contract. It's a very good phone price/performance vs iPhone 5s (off contract pricing ).

I wouldn't recommend nexus 5 off contract if u can get subsidized pricing for $199/299 iPhone. Than go with iPhone 5S or Note 3.
 
The Nexus 5 retails for $349 for the 16gb model and the iPhone 5S is $649 for the 16gb model so what're you talking about? You also realize five years of iOS support is completely absurd, right? Last I checked, nothing below the iPhone 4 has access to iOS 7. Also, the Genius Bar is yours to access for one year, any additional years costs even more money on top of that.

Wasn't it stated the nexus 4 was so cheap because google subsidies some of the cost? The same probably applies to the nexus 5. It's the game console concept. Sell the hardware at a loss, profit off of the software.

Google obviously makes it money from user data. Android is free after all and google isn't in the charity business.
 
Its amazing how most ppl talk about nexus 5 as if they have been using it since ages.

IS iPhone 5s worth $650 when you can get a nexus 5 at 350?
NO.
Will i buy an iPhone even if its still not worth it?
YES. I have been spending 2000-3000 per year ever since i started earning just on phones.

Should you buy an iPhone 5s at 650 when you can get a nexus 5 at 350?
If you like android then yes. You can still use iOS by spending 249 on an apple certified refurb iPad mini at 249 and still save 50 bucks.

Is the nexus 5 superior then iPhone 5s? In some aspects yes but then iPhone is better then nexus at equally good thing including the overall experience.


My advice as i said before :
Get the nexus 5. With the money saved get an refurb iPad mini or wait and spend that money to buy a refurb retina ipad mini when apple starts selling them and you will get the best of both worlds.

Having money is not everything,it's how you decide to spend it is. :)
 
Wasn't it stated the nexus 4 was so cheap because google subsidies some of the cost? The same probably applies to the nexus 5. It's the game console concept. Sell the hardware at a loss, profit off of the software.

Google obviously makes it money from user data. Android is free after all and google isn't in the charity business.

I doubt Google is making a loss on the Nexus 5.

It costs LG about $200 to make it.
 
It's rather android vs iPhone not $300 vs $650.
iPhone was my choice.

It's Kia vs Mercedes not $10000 vs $100000...

Huh?

It's a decision on price first of all, and then on the platform.
If the OP is OK with android, there is no reason to pay twice as much for an iPhone.
 
I doubt Google is making a loss on the Nexus 5.

It costs LG about $200 to make it.

" CNET spoke with a T-Mobile representative that stated the carrier is not increasing prices to generate a profit, and that it in fact pays full retail price when purchasing the Nexus 5 from LG. The inference is that Google is selling the phone at a loss, either to generate interest or encourage customers to buy direct rather than going through their carriers. We contacted Google about the pricing discrepancy, but the company declined to comment."

Tmobile is selling the phone for $449
 
Lol people are still saying Google subsidizes it?

They don't, they just sell it at a very thin profit margin is all
 
I padi $812, and feel that it was worth it all in the end (unlocked and no additional time on contract, while i wait for Wind to get LTE)
 
This thread is so refreshing, actual unbiased discussion.........not being sarcastic.

Try asking something similar in the iPad Forum........flame wars would commence!
 
You guys have to throw in the resell value, the quality blah-blah. That sound more like justification for you than for OP.

You're right: quality means nothing. Being able to retain value and get some money back when it's upgrade time means nothing. Getting OS support for a longer period means nothing. :rolleyes:


What if OP's entire concern is bang-for-the-buck? NOW!, not what he can get tomorrow or cares if people make fun of this plastic phone. He just want to DO more with less$ TODAY and he's not tied to he ecosystem.

Having a cheap, plastic phone in my hand doesn't really translate to bang for the buck, at least not to me it doesn't. Also, making a platform choice ties you to an ecosystem, no matter the platform.

If price is the single, sole factor in the decision, then sure, the Nexus 5 wins out. But in my opinion that's being penny wise and pound foolish, so good luck with that.
 
You're right: quality means nothing. Being able to retain value and get some money back when it's upgrade time means nothing. Getting OS support for a longer period means nothing. :rolleyes:




Having a cheap, plastic phone in my hand doesn't really translate to bang for the buck, at least not to me it doesn't. Also, making a platform choice ties you to an ecosystem, no matter the platform.

If price is the single, sole factor in the decision, then sure, the Nexus 5 wins out. But in my opinion that's being penny wise and pound foolish, so good luck with that.

Have you held the nexus 5 in hands? It doesn't feel cheap. Your entire post is biased. Not trying to start a flame war but there is hardly anything about nexus 5 that is cheap except the price and android lol ;)
 
Have you held the nexus 5 in hands? It doesn't feel cheap.

I saw it at the T-Mobile store when I was researching plans for my iPad, and yes, I held it in my hands.

Your entire post is biased.

So is yours, and you're completely ignoring all the other points in my and other's posts.
 
One of the biggest reasons I like Apple and am ok paying more for their devices are because of the service that comes with it. If my iPhone has something wrong with it I can take it to Apple and more than likely if it's not something I did wrong, I'll walk out with a working replacement right then and there.

If your Android stops working, good luck getting it serviced or even having back in your hands in 7-10 days. Sorry but I can't go 7-10 days without my phone. That piece of mind is easily worth the extra money to me.


QFT... people need to look at the whole picture and just not the price of the phone. The eco system, the warranty, etc. a phone today is much more than it was years ago and you need it more in todays world.
 
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