Good on Apple for acknowledging Earth Day. I do see a slight irony giving the tremendous amount of power they must use on air conditioning (and heating). The Sydney store is usually quite a bit cooler than the outside temperature, with the doors open, you feel the cool air pour out as you walk by. Building out of largely glass may look good, but it is not great in terms of temperature regulation. Think of a glass house, designed to trap as much heat as possible.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Retail Store Logos Gain Green Leaves in Honor of Earth Day
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Am I the only one who thinks hey should just donate all that money instead of changing light bulb colors and making t shirts. Seems more wasteful than the message.
I agree but it's so obvious that the environmentalist movement is all about intent and nothing about actually doing anything for the environment. All of their current "green" technologies are worse for their environment than the non-"green" predecessors.
Should we drill in America with better technology, cleaner regulations, etc
or
Should we buy oil from the middle east with very little clean initiatives, then put it on 30 year old tankers and bring it across the oceans to American, then unload it.
Which is better for the environment? But again, its about "intent" and not really doing anything for the environment
Just my opinion on the OBVIOUS. No need to spam the hate
My opinion, also on the obvious, is that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. At least, related to this topic.
What does Apple have to do with drilling for oil? Just felt like venting about that? Or perhaps you're setting it up as a straw man so if people refute you, you can come back with a bunch of facts and knowledge on oil drilling?
What do you know about Apple's environmental policies (which is more than "intent")? Which green policies that Apple deploys are inefficient?
Oh right, you stated it's your opinion, and then followed it up with a bunch of smiley faces in hopes that it prevents you from receiving any backlash for showing off your ignorance.
You're entitled to your opinion, but when you spout it out for all to hear, it usually helps to follow up with facts to support it, if you don't want people to "spam the hate."
FWIW, I agree we should drill out here in America. Doesn't have anything to do with this conversation.
----------
T-shirts and a different shade of glass covering a lightbulb aren't that big of a deal.
Either way, there's more information on what they ACTUALLY do here: https://www.apple.com/environment/
Scrub past the video if you want to get to more facts.
Next to environment, what about Apple's ethics towards paying taxes?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DLh9qC2izrI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DLh9qC2izrI
Should we drill in America with better technology, cleaner regulations, etc
or
Should we buy oil from the middle east with very little clean initiatives, then put it on 30 year old tankers and bring it across the oceans to American, then unload it.
Which is better for the environment? But again, its about "intent" and not really doing anything for the environment
Just my opinion on the OBVIOUS. No need to spam the hate
The OBVIOUS way to go is to abandon oil altogether, and switch to sustainable energy sources. But you knew that, right?
And if it's not that much trouble: turn down the heat, switch off the lights and maybe... skip the yearly cycle of iToys.
You mention the environmentalist movement as something detached from reality. While the so called green washing you mention is off course internalized by today's capitalism.
A lot of people in Europe finally realize that it's not a choice: economy or ecology, trees or jobs. It's both! Moving foreword means you can no longer have one without the other. And that requires a change in mindset. That's the OBVIOUS.
Apple seems to be realizing this. They mention in the video they still have a long way to go. They're not claiming that buying an iPhone is environmentally friendly. It's not, it's very polluting, but at least they're working on it. In my opinion, that's not green washing, but a realistic view and an ambitious goal for the hopefully not too distant future.
Last edited:
Thank you for making my point so eloquently. You seem under the foolish impression that the environment is a treat to us, and that spending money on it, is a waste of time and resources.
Your reference to global cooling makes no sense. You refer to things of over 40 years ago. Luckily, technology and scientific research have evolved a lot. 40 years ago, you died of certain illnesses that are now curable. 40 years ago, we did not have the scientific knowledge to understand the global climate as we do now.
You are more than 10 years too late with your remarks on global warming. The scientific principles behind it are very clear. The only people trying to create confusion are politics that are unwilling to change or provide solutions. Are you trying to make a political point or a scientific?
And finally, who was taking about communism? Capitalism is a brilliant system, but everybody needs to take responsibility, and Im glad that a multi billion dollar company like Apple seems to taking its role seriously.
Try reading the quote I was replying to and you will realize that it DOES apply. Maybe your comments have nothing to do with my conversation and you should but out...
I was pretty clear that my point was that almost the entire environmental movement is all about intent and not about actually fulfilling the intent. The are many examples and the facts are EVERYWHERE. I am not interested in arguing them here. You can educate yourself as I am too busy to do it for you.
I guess your statement "FWIW, I agree we should drill out here in America" was to prevent any backlash? My smiley face intent was to be polite. A lesson you might learn yourself.
It's not even that, it just shows that he takes the *remarkably* poor reporting on science in the mainstream media at face value, and then picks and chooses what to believe based on his own, poorly informed opinions.
The big 'global cooling scare' that hit the media a few decades ago? Was bad reporting of the same science that predicted global warming even then. Some locations around the world will experience lower average temperatures, even as the average *global* temperature increases. That little tidbit was blown up into 'fears of a new ice age' by people reporting on scientific papers they didn't understand.
They're the same people who took a look at the weather this winter in the midwest and said, "so much for global warming", even though one of the things predicted by the climate change models is more extreme swings of weather phenomena, with such swings being *powered* by the greater atmospheric energy induced by greater warmth in the atmosphere (aka: global warming).
Scientific proof? Here's your proof:
http://www.petitionproject.org/
More than 31,000 scientists believe that global warming is a hoax. There are, approximately 3,000 scientists that believe GW exists.
Scientific principals are, indeed, clear. It's the FLAWED models that the GW alarmists use - and they want us to pay taxes to 'stop the warming,' which, BTW does not exist.
Don't fall for it.
A green leaf to commemorate Earth Day in the logo of an Apple store, in China.
Could any more irony be stuffed into one concept?
----------
LOL America doesn't even HAVE 31,000 scientists left. Oh, and the last time a petition counted as proof of anything was, err, never.
Could any more irony be stuffed into one concept?
----------
LOL America doesn't even HAVE 31,000 scientists left. Oh, and the last time a petition counted as proof of anything was, err, never.
Who said it was 31,000 American scientists?
The other poster mentioned 'science' - only 3,000 scientists believe in GW.
But 31,000 who disbelieve it is bunk?
I was thinking the same thing. But I think they don't care to do that because there would be so many stupid people going, "Hey, what's with the Christmas colors?" They're out there.. Trust me. lol
Obviously, then, there ARE more than 30,000 US scientists!
I guess you owe us all an apology.
