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Exotic-Car Man

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With the MBP was 32GB RAM possible.

But with the new MBPR is 32GB not longer available.

Huh? I'm not seeing it.

Broadwell will have a larger boost on the iGPU side (20% or more) while also increasing power efficiency and it will not have DDR4 on the mobile side.

The last time Intel revealed a bit about Broadwell, they mentioned 30% more efficient per clock versus Haswell.

DDR4 for laptops are more likely to show up via Skylake (Broadwell's successor) in 2016-17 assuming no delays.

I see. Can you link me to the 30% CPU boost and no mobile DDR4 until 2016-17? I'm also not very interested about integrated GPUs. Those are still a joke and will be for many years to come. I need a discrete GPU for even moderate gaming. Broadwell interests me because of the lower power consumption.
 

magicMac

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Apr 13, 2010
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Well I still have a Early 2011 Macbook Pro, so I think it's time for an upgrade :D I don't even have Retina yet. But then, there could be some amazing new features in the next version so I don't know :mad: To wait, or not to wait...

I also have an early 2011 macbook pro, haven't gone retina yet because waiting for the SSD storage to match what I can get in this macbook and it's 2.5" form factor SATA connectors. Maybe the late 2014 models will have these slightly faster CPU's plus a 2TB built to order SSD option.
 

MikhailT

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Why until Skylake with DDR4?

Because that's when Intel plans to add the support?

Remember, the memory controller is integrated with the CPU, not separately, so you have to wait for Intel to support new memory technologies.

Not many companies are producing DDR4 memories right now, so there is no point of doing DDR4 when you don't have the supply.

The migration to DDR4 will not happen for another year or two, at best, you can expect to see an uptick in 2016.
 

StarkInc

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Jan 21, 2011
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Because that's when Intel plans to add the support?

Remember, the memory controller is integrated with the CPU, not separately, so you have to wait for Intel to support new memory technologies.

Not many companies are producing DDR4 memories right now, so there is no point of doing DDR4 when you don't have the supply.

The migration to DDR4 will not happen for another year or two, at best, you can expect to see an uptick in 2016.


Thanks...
 

Kevsta26

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Apr 2, 2011
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I also have an early 2011 macbook pro, haven't gone retina yet because waiting for the SSD storage to match what I can get in this macbook and it's 2.5" form factor SATA connectors. Maybe the late 2014 models will have these slightly faster CPU's plus a 2TB built to order SSD option.

Yeah, it would be nice to not spend another nearly $3000 and end up with less space :p
 

Nismo73

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Jan 4, 2013
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So...Updated Haswell in October and then redesigned Pro Broadwell WWDC '15 with usb 3.1
 

omgwut

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Jul 28, 2006
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Waiting for Broadwell is a waste of time and money.

If you need a machine now, just buy it. If you don't need one now, don't buy one.

But whatever, enough of the "Should I wait for the 'Xxxxx' chip" nonsense. If you're in a position to where the next generation will be meaningfully better enough, you're in a position to buy a current model RIGHT NOW. If not, then you generally don't NEED the next generation.
Yeah, its silly. You're always going to be waiting for something. It's just the nature of the commercial electronics industry. I can justify waiting for something if its been officially announced and its right around the corner, or if its got a killer feature that the current offering lacks, but otherwise if you're waiting for minimal spec bump after spec bump... just make the jump.
 

Traverse

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Mar 11, 2013
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I love all these people that complain. :roll eyes:

The vast majority of people do not need faster CPU's. Unless you are doing CPU intensive tasks a better integrated GPU will be more beneficial. Anyways, yes broad well will be better, but if you need a new computer just get one. It seems like only yesterday the current generation was the newest generation....oh wait.
 

PocketSand11

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I thought these CPUs ran around 3.8GHz. These are all low clock speeds. Are these the lower-power laptop versions or something?

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I love all these people that complain. :roll eyes:

The vast majority of people do not need faster CPU's. Unless you are doing CPU intensive tasks a better integrated GPU will be more beneficial. Anyways, yes broad well will be better, but if you need a new computer just get one. It seems like only yesterday the current generation was the newest generation....oh wait.

What do people use the GPU for?
 
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The Mercurian

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Meh.

Only question now is will the refresh boost the GPU. I reckon they have to either boost the GPU or drop the price by €100-200
 

Count Blah

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Jan 6, 2004
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Well I still have a Early 2011 Macbook Pro, so I think it's time for an upgrade :D I don't even have Retina yet. But then, there could be some amazing new features in the next version so I don't know :mad: To wait, or not to wait...

13" or 15". Unless you are running I to video issues, I would wait. You will kick yourself if the new ones come out 6 months after you bought this one. Especially after waiting this long.

Of course this presumes you already upped the RAM and switched to an SSD. Otherwise, spend $ on that to tide you over.
 

PocketSand11

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Jun 12, 2014
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Well I still have a Early 2011 Macbook Pro, so I think it's time for an upgrade :D I don't even have Retina yet. But then, there could be some amazing new features in the next version so I don't know :mad: To wait, or not to wait...

I'm keeping my 2009 MBP until something really cool comes out.
 

SockRolid

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Jan 5, 2010
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Waiting for Broadwell is a waste of time and money.

If you need a machine now, just buy it. If you don't need one now, don't buy one.

But whatever, enough of the "Should I wait for the 'Xxxxx' chip" nonsense. If you're in a position to where the next generation will be meaningfully better enough, you're in a position to buy a current model RIGHT NOW. If not, then you generally don't NEED the next generation.

Meanwhile, Apple significantly advances their ARM-based AX chips every year.
Lookin' at YOU, Intel.
 

kramjam

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Feb 3, 2008
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Hoping for a price drop, 8GB/256GB SSD will come standard, and 16GB stock at the $1799 tier.
 
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commander.data

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Nov 10, 2006
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Meanwhile, Apple significantly advances their ARM-based AX chips every year.
Lookin' at YOU, Intel.
It's easier to show improvements when you are starting from a low base. By all accounts it's the fabrication process technology and the challenges of being first to 14 nm that's holding Broadwell back rather than problems with the CPU architecture. Apple and their fabrication partners haven't even shipped an SoC on 20 nm yet. Apple is great at a good many things, but they aren't likely any better at fighting physics than Intel is.
 
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