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The new BB10 phones - Z3, Classic and Passport

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Lloydbm41 said:
Unlikely for one main reason: No licensing fees to use WP on devices under 8".

This creates a secondary effect where numerous OEM's have now committed to building for WP. This equates to more marketshare.
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How do you figure? RIM is vertically integrated like Apple.

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cube said:
I think it's a social device. It will start conversations.
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"Wow, dude, that's one ugly phone you've got there!"

*crickets chirping*

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FFR said:
I wonder what bb is going to do now that android replaced dalvik with art, I guess amazon has them covered until they go 64 bit as well.
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By the time that Android apps are being written to be ART-only (years) these phones will be obsolete.
 
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The Z3 also became available in Vietnam and Hong Kong earlier this month.
 
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SlCKB0Y said:
How do you figure? RIM is vertically integrated like Apple.

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"Wow, dude, that's one ugly phone you've got there!"

*crickets chirping*

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By the time that Android apps are being written to be ART-only (years) these phones will be obsolete.
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Android apps are already being rewritten utilizing the art; By your own admission they are already obsolete.
 
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FFR said:
Android apps are already being rewritten utilizing the art; By your own admission they are already obsolete.
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An application can support both Dalvik and ART. I meant by the time developers had moved away from Dalvik support (to only supporting Android L and above) the hardware in those phones would be seriously obsolete.
 
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SlCKB0Y said:
An application can support both Dalvik and ART. I meant by the time developers had moved away from Dalvik support (to only supporting Android L and above) the hardware in those phones would be seriously obsolete.
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Yes, except Google isn't going to wait around on developers taking their time, Google needs the switch to happen as soon as possible:

"But Oracle vowed to keep fighting and just scored a major win in appeals court, reports Reuters. The appeals court said that Oracle could claim copyright protection on a part of Java known as an application programming interface (API). An API is some software code that allows two programs to talk to each other."

http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-wins-android-appeal-2014-5

It's too bad blackberry is relying on another company's ecosystem, sort of like a virtual squatter; Google doesn't owe blackberry anything.

Don't forget about 64bit as well; blackberry passport just cannot compete, DOA.
 
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FFR said:
Yes, except Google isn't going to wait around on developers taking their time, Google needs the switch to happen as soon as possible:

"But Oracle vowed to keep fighting and just scored a major win in appeals court, reports Reuters. The appeals court said that Oracle could claim copyright protection on a part of Java known as an application programming interface (API). An API is some software code that allows two programs to talk to each other."

http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-wins-android-appeal-2014-5

It's too bad blackberry is relying on another company's ecosystem, sort of like a virtual squatter; Google doesn't owe blackberry anything.

Don't forget about 64bit as well; blackberry passport just cannot compete, DOA.
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??? How would ART solve Google's Java API problem?
 
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FFR said:
art isn't infringing on oracle ip, dalvik is.
It's the reason blackberry is now relying on amazons AppStore. 64bit is another reason.
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But the Java API is still copyrighted. It was Sun's way to ensure the platform did not get corrupted.
 
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The new BB10 phones - Z3, Classic and Passport

cube said:
That is a runtime, not the API. It is only part of the problem.



The big question now is if an API copyright is valid.
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Wow you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about do you?

One more time, maybe you need time to process it.


FFR said:
Dalvik contained the infringing ip, not art.
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Step away from the keyboard slowly. ;)
 
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FFR said:
Wow you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about do you?

One more time, maybe you need time to process it.







Step away from the keyboard slowly. ;)
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I understand that what you're saying is that all Android apps require a major rewrite to be compatible (except those based on higher level frameworks).
 
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